Discussion Is Limb Lengthening Surgery My Only Option? (My ENTIRE Height Journey)

[tension]

I wanted to write down all of my height related information somewhere, so I decided to just put it here so I can get some feedback on how I should move forward

Birthday: January 21st, 2008 (making me 18 years, 8 months, and 27 days old as of October 19, 2026)

Medical Records Relating To Growth:

February 11, 2019:

• Weight 61 lb (5th percentile)
• Height 4' 3.5" (3rd percentile)
• 11 years old
• 5th grade
• Tanner I

February 17, 2020:

• Weight 61 lb 12.8 oz (1st percentile)
• Height 4' 5.5" (3rd percentile)
• 12 years old
• 6th grade
• Tanner I

February 22, 2021:

• Weight 68 lb 3.2 oz (<1st percentile)
• Height 4' 7.5" (2nd percentile)
• 13 years old
• 7th grade
• Tanner I

March 30, 2022:

• Weight 73 lb 8 oz (<1st percentile)
• Height 4' 9.48" (1st percentile)
• 14 years old
• 8th grade
• Tanner II

March 8, 2023:

• Weight 91 lb 12.8 oz (3rd percentile)
• Height 5' 1.5" (4th percentile)
• 15 years old
• 9th grade
• Tanner Il

May 22, 2024:

• Weight 108 lb 12.8 oz (7th percentile)
• Height 5' 4.8" (10th percentile)
• 16 years old
• 10th grade
• Tanner III

April 16, 2025:

• Weight 111 lb 12.8 oz (4th percentile)
• Height 5' 6.5" (18th percentile)
• 17 years old
• 11th grade
• Tanner III-IV

September 3, 2025:

• Weight 118 lb 6.4 oz (7th percentile)
• Height 5' 7" (22nd percentile)
• 17 years old
• 12th grade

November 3, 2025:

• Weight 121 lb 12.8 oz (10th percentile)
• 17 years old
• 12th grade

February 18, 2026:

• Weight 121 lb 3.2 oz (8th percentile)
• Height 5' 7.25" (23rd percentile)
• 18 years old
• 12th grade
• Tanner V

April 8, 2026:

• Weight 129 lb 6.4 oz (17th percentile)
• 18 years old
• 12th grade

Currently on 10/19/2026:

I just weighed myself at 10:53 PM and I was 133.6 lb but obviously weight fluctuates throughout the day and I've also recently started going to the gym so I've gained some weight do to that as well

I haven't had my height measured since my last doctor's appointment in February, so I don't know exactly how tall I am

Now here are the 2 X-rays that I've had done to determine if my growth plates were open or closed:

My left wrist X-ray on February 25th, 2026:

My right knee X-ray on June 26th, 2026:

So now the question is are my growth plates closed

From what I can tell, my knees are (which are matters most I believe)

Also, my wrists probably fused in the time in between x-rays and definitely by now

But I'd still like to hear other opinions

Because obviously if there is genuine growth potential, I would deploy pharmacology

But if I'm completely done growing, it would be incredibly retarded to spend a shit ton of money on drugs that are gonna make my quality of life worse, just to not grow at all

Limb Lengthening Surgery is obviously the best thing for people with closed plates, but I'd like to hear other things that work

Another obvious thing is lifts

I currently wear insoles inside of regular shoes, but I've been considering ordering real elevator shoes

Those are the 2 most basic closed plate heightmaxxes, so if there's anything else lmk

I've heard of MSM + glucosamine, and i've used it, but idk if it's actually true that it preserves morning height

Also, heard of heel smashing (but if it works, it works)

Idk i'm kind of rambling now and i've turned this whole thread into a journal basically but idgaf anymore

PLEASE lmk what you think about my situation and what you think I should do

Also, give me your best heightmaxxes that work for people with closed plates

 

[Evilthinker21]

i dont know bro not right now

 

[tension]

i dont know bro not right now

what's wrong

and it's don't* btw

can't forget that apostrophe

 

[Evilthinker21]

what's wrong

and it's don't* btw

can't forget that apostrophe

how will you feel tomorrow when you wake up with your dick superglued up your ass

 

[Nobodyreallycares]

I wanted to write down all of my height related information somewhere, so I decided to just put it here so I can get some feedback on how I should move forward

Birthday: January 21st, 2008 (making me 18 years, 8 months, and 27 days old as of October 19, 2026)

Medical Records Relating To Growth:

February 11, 2019:

• Weight 61 lb (5th percentile)
• Height 4' 3.5" (3rd percentile)
• 11 years old
• 5th grade
• Tanner I

February 17, 2020:

• Weight 61 lb 12.8 oz (1st percentile)
• Height 4' 5.5" (3rd percentile)
• 12 years old
• 6th grade
• Tanner I

February 22, 2021:

• Weight 68 lb 3.2 oz (<1st percentile)
• Height 4' 7.5" (2nd percentile)
• 13 years old
• 7th grade
• Tanner I

March 30, 2022:

• Weight 73 lb 8 oz (<1st percentile)
• Height 4' 9.48" (1st percentile)
• 14 years old
• 8th grade
• Tanner II

March 8, 2023:

• Weight 91 lb 12.8 oz (3rd percentile)
• Height 5' 1.5" (4th percentile)
• 15 years old
• 9th grade
• Tanner Il

May 22, 2024:

• Weight 108 lb 12.8 oz (7th percentile)
• Height 5' 4.8" (10th percentile)
• 16 years old
• 10th grade
• Tanner III

April 16, 2025:

• Weight 111 lb 12.8 oz (4th percentile)
• Height 5' 6.5" (18th percentile)
• 17 years old
• 11th grade
• Tanner III-IV

September 3, 2025:

• Weight 118 lb 6.4 oz (7th percentile)
• Height 5' 7" (22nd percentile)
• 17 years old
• 12th grade

November 3, 2025:

• Weight 121 lb 12.8 oz (10th percentile)
• 17 years old
• 12th grade

February 18, 2026:

• Weight 121 lb 3.2 oz (8th percentile)
• Height 5' 7.25" (23rd percentile)
• 18 years old
• 12th grade
• Tanner V

April 8, 2026:

• Weight 129 lb 6.4 oz (17th percentile)
• 18 years old
• 12th grade

Currently on 10/19/2026:

I just weighed myself at 10:53 PM and I was 133.6 lb but obviously weight fluctuates throughout the day and I've also recently started going to the gym so I've gained some weight do to that as well

I haven't had my height measured since my last doctor's appointment in February, so I don't know exactly how tall I am

Now here are the 2 X-rays that I've had done to determine if my growth plates were open or closed:

My left wrist X-ray on February 25th, 2026:

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My right knee X-ray on June 26th, 2026:

View attachment 436496View attachment 436497View attachment 436498

So now the question is are my growth plates closed

From what I can tell, my knees are (which are matters most I believe)

Also, my wrists probably fused in the time in between x-rays and definitely by now

But I'd still like to hear other opinions

Because obviously if there is genuine growth potential, I would deploy pharmacology

But if I'm completely done growing, it would be incredibly retarded to spend a shit ton of money on drugs that are gonna make my quality of life worse, just to not grow at all

Limb Lengthening Surgery is obviously the best thing for people with closed plates, but I'd like to hear other things that work

Another obvious thing is lifts

I currently wear insoles inside of regular shoes, but I've been considering ordering real elevator shoes

Those are the 2 most basic closed plate heightmaxxes, so if there's anything else lmk

I've heard of MSM + glucosamine, and i've used it, but idk if it's actually true that it preserves morning height

Also, heard of heel smashing (but if it works, it works)

Idk i'm kind of rambling now and i've turned this whole thread into a journal basically but idgaf anymore

PLEASE lmk what you think about my situation and what you think I should do

Also, give me your best heightmaxxes that work for people with closed plates

I think it’s best if you ldar bro. Accept it. Honestly get the surgery but only like 2 inches so you don’t do as much harm and fraud with height boosters shoes and clothing proportion

 

[ecoli]

I wanted to write down all of my height related information somewhere, so I decided to just put it here so I can get some feedback on how I should move forward

Birthday: January 21st, 2008 (making me 18 years, 8 months, and 27 days old as of October 19, 2026)

Medical Records Relating To Growth:

February 11, 2019:

• Weight 61 lb (5th percentile)
• Height 4' 3.5" (3rd percentile)
• 11 years old
• 5th grade
• Tanner I

February 17, 2020:

• Weight 61 lb 12.8 oz (1st percentile)
• Height 4' 5.5" (3rd percentile)
• 12 years old
• 6th grade
• Tanner I

February 22, 2021:

• Weight 68 lb 3.2 oz (<1st percentile)
• Height 4' 7.5" (2nd percentile)
• 13 years old
• 7th grade
• Tanner I

March 30, 2022:

• Weight 73 lb 8 oz (<1st percentile)
• Height 4' 9.48" (1st percentile)
• 14 years old
• 8th grade
• Tanner II

March 8, 2023:

• Weight 91 lb 12.8 oz (3rd percentile)
• Height 5' 1.5" (4th percentile)
• 15 years old
• 9th grade
• Tanner Il

May 22, 2024:

• Weight 108 lb 12.8 oz (7th percentile)
• Height 5' 4.8" (10th percentile)
• 16 years old
• 10th grade
• Tanner III

April 16, 2025:

• Weight 111 lb 12.8 oz (4th percentile)
• Height 5' 6.5" (18th percentile)
• 17 years old
• 11th grade
• Tanner III-IV

September 3, 2025:

• Weight 118 lb 6.4 oz (7th percentile)
• Height 5' 7" (22nd percentile)
• 17 years old
• 12th grade

November 3, 2025:

• Weight 121 lb 12.8 oz (10th percentile)
• 17 years old
• 12th grade

February 18, 2026:

• Weight 121 lb 3.2 oz (8th percentile)
• Height 5' 7.25" (23rd percentile)
• 18 years old
• 12th grade
• Tanner V

April 8, 2026:

• Weight 129 lb 6.4 oz (17th percentile)
• 18 years old
• 12th grade

Currently on 10/19/2026:

I just weighed myself at 10:53 PM and I was 133.6 lb but obviously weight fluctuates throughout the day and I've also recently started going to the gym so I've gained some weight do to that as well

I haven't had my height measured since my last doctor's appointment in February, so I don't know exactly how tall I am

Now here are the 2 X-rays that I've had done to determine if my growth plates were open or closed:

My left wrist X-ray on February 25th, 2026:

View attachment 436493View attachment 436494View attachment 436495

My right knee X-ray on June 26th, 2026:

View attachment 436496View attachment 436497View attachment 436498

So now the question is are my growth plates closed

From what I can tell, my knees are (which are matters most I believe)

Also, my wrists probably fused in the time in between x-rays and definitely by now

But I'd still like to hear other opinions

Because obviously if there is genuine growth potential, I would deploy pharmacology

But if I'm completely done growing, it would be incredibly retarded to spend a shit ton of money on drugs that are gonna make my quality of life worse, just to not grow at all

Limb Lengthening Surgery is obviously the best thing for people with closed plates, but I'd like to hear other things that work

Another obvious thing is lifts

I currently wear insoles inside of regular shoes, but I've been considering ordering real elevator shoes

Those are the 2 most basic closed plate heightmaxxes, so if there's anything else lmk

I've heard of MSM + glucosamine, and i've used it, but idk if it's actually true that it preserves morning height

Also, heard of heel smashing (but if it works, it works)

Idk i'm kind of rambling now and i've turned this whole thread into a journal basically but idgaf anymore

PLEASE lmk what you think about my situation and what you think I should do

Also, give me your best heightmaxxes that work for people with closed plates

radiographic x rays overrate growth plate state
you could get an mri of the knee to see rest activity if you have any rest activity you should use high dose hgh sag21k cycled with abaloparatide since you are in very late stages fgfr3 inhib crush your e2 with ai tamox for era af2 ky19382 for wnt dht derivatives low dose test or preferable no test base
mtren is good too because it increases your height velocity by a lot

 

[tension]

how will you feel tomorrow when you wake up with your dick superglued up your ass

but i didn't have breakfast this morning

I think it’s best if you ldar bro. Accept it. Honestly get the surgery but only like 2 inches so you don’t do as much harm and fraud with height boosters shoes and clothing proportion

nah i'm never gonna ldar

my face is still good and 5'7-8 (assuming that's what i am) isn't death tier

also, physique halo is incoming

if i were to get LL, i'd go all in and go for like 5 inches in one surgery

hit 6ft and with the new tech that's definitely achievable

money is literally the only thing holding me back

radiographic x rays overrate growth plate state
you could get an mri of the knee to see rest activity if you have any rest activity you should use high dose hgh sag21k cycled with abaloparatide since you are in very late stages fgfr3 inhib crush your e2 with ai tamox for era af2 ky19382 for wnt dht derivatives low dose test or preferable no test base
mtren is good too because it increases your height velocity by a lot

how do x-rays overrate

and elaborate on the mri shit

do you have any examples of what activity vs inactivity looks like

also, how can you tell that i'm in late stages vs being done

 

[ecoli]

how do x-rays overrate

xrays just rely on a line if the xray doesnt show a big enough radiolucent line the growth plate will be seen as closed if the bone surrounding the growth plate is highly mineralized or very dense it will also mask the growth plate and it will be seen as closed radiograhps overestimate growth plate fusion

and elaborate on the mri shit

do you have any examples of what activity vs inactivity looks like

also, how can you tell that i'm in late stages vs being done

it determines rest activity better than an x ray because it doesn't rely on a line you see everything

i dont have expmales because usally a radiologist analyzes it they check if you have any rest activity left with small rest activity left natural growth is impossible tho so you need pharmacology

 

[tension]

xrays just rely on a line if the xray doesnt show a big enough radiolucent line the growth plate will be seen as closed if the bone surrounding the growth plate is highly mineralized or very dense it will also mask the growth plate and it will be seen as closed radiograhps overestimate growth plate fusion

well what do you think about the x-rays i provided

ik you don't like them but what could you take away from them

it detemites rest activity better than a xray because it doesnt rely on a line you see everything

so why isn't that common practice?

an x-ray is the gold standard to check growth plates

i dont have expmales because usally a radiologist analyzes it they check if you have any rest activity left with small rest activity left natural growth is impossible tho so you need pharmacology

if you NEED pharmacology to grow because of how little growth you'd be able to achieve naturally, i doubt you'd grow much even with pharma

 

[ecoli]

well what do you think about the x-rays i provided

ik you don't like them but what could you take away from them

looks closed to me

so why isn't that common practice?
an x-ray is the gold standard to check growth plates

expensive and takes more time

Results: MRI assessment of distal radial growth plate fusion has good correlation with plain radiograph fusion (r=0.949). The mean of x-ray grading is higher than the MRI grading in the 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19 years old age groups with p=0.443, 0.001, 0.009, <0.001 and 0.003, respectively, using Wilcoxon signed ranked test. Intraobserver and interobserver correlations were high (r=0.9). T1 MRI correlation with chronological age (r=0.771) was close to plain radiographs (r=0.821) with p value of <0.001.

Conclusion: This article is of major importance as it is the first to show that x-rays significantly overrate the grading of fusion in this age group and therefore should not be used to exclude overaged players as is occurring now to the distress of many genuinely eligible players.

if you NEED pharmacology to grow because of how little growth you'd be able to achieve naturally, i doubt you'd grow much even with pharma

better than nothing and you cant know

 

[tension]

expensive

how expensive

 

[ecoli]

how expensive

depending on the country between 400-1200 or even 400-3000