Discussion Islam is the greatest defense

[Clone]

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Fleeing will not benefit you if you ˹try to˺ escape a natural or violent death. ˹If it is not your time,˺ you will only be allowed enjoyment for a little while.”

And whoever turns his back to them on such a day, unless swerving [as a strategy] for war or joining [another] company, has certainly returned with anger [upon him] from Allah , and his refuge is Hell - and wretched is the destination.

You can't run from battle in Islam they would have prevented so many things in life including colonization

Thoughts?

 

[SILVER]

Thoughts?

I won't say it because the Christian God might strike me down

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

 

[Clone]

I won't say it because the Christian God might strike me down

Why in Christianity you can talk about false religions

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Fleeing will not benefit you if you ˹try to˺ escape a natural or violent death. ˹If it is not your time,˺ you will only be allowed enjoyment for a little while.”

And whoever turns his back to them on such a day, unless swerving [as a strategy] for war or joining [another] company, has certainly returned with anger [upon him] from Allah , and his refuge is Hell - and wretched is the destination.

You can't run from battle in Islam they would have prevented so many things in life including colonization

Thoughts?

Allah is Baal. Nothing but another demon of solomon's keylines.

 

[Clone]

What is this a crusader?

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Why in Christianity you can talk about false religions

He is a catholic f****t.

2 Peter 2:1 KJV​

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Romans 16:17 KJV​

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

1 Timothy 4:1 KJV​

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV​

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

What is this a crusader?

Janos Hunyadi

 

[Clone]

Allah is Baal. Nothing but another demon of solomon's keylines.

I don't think so baal in the Bible was a cattle in from

 

[Clone]

He is a catholic f****t.

2 Peter 2:1 KJV​

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Romans 16:17 KJV​

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

1 Timothy 4:1 KJV​

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV​

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

This in context is talking to the Christians saying Thier are false prophets among Thier ranks Islam is whole different religion

 

[Clone]

Janos Hunyadi

Who is he was he a crusader or just a knight

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

This in context is talking to the Christians saying Thier are false prophets among Thier ranks Islam is whole different religion

This is against any false prophet. The KJV stands against every faith and all who are against the godhead doctrine.

Who is he was he a crusader or just a knight

Knight who became a King/Regent.

 

[SILVER]

Why in Christianity you can talk about false religions

I guess and I think what you quoted was just a verse about courage its not what colonisation was built on

 

[Clone]

This is against any false prophet. The KJV stands against every faith and all who are against the godhead doctrine.

Islam also says Christianity is false so who do we believe

 

[Clone]

I guess and I think what you quoted was just a verse about courage its not what colonisation was built on

I mean let's say the British want to conquer Africa but Africa has Islam this would have went alot different due to the teachings of the Quran

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Islam also says Christianity is false so who do we believe

The faith that came five hundred years before? That also does not have kabalistic traits or traditions? Or pagan ones where you kiss a black rock or have a messiah/prophet who is closely like the messiah of judaism?

 

[Newday]

 

[Newday]

it’s gonna be a longggg day

 

[Clone]

The faith that came five hundred years before? That also does not have kabalistic traits or traditions? Or pagan ones where you kiss a black rock or have a messiah/prophet who is closely like the messiah of judaism?

You don't have to kiss the rock but like the Quran says there was many before Muhammad don't forget the old religions even before Christianity

 

[Clone]

This also explains why the crusades failed and why the middle east is Muslim to this day

 

[SILVER]

I mean let's say the British want to conquer Africa but Africa has Islam this would have went alot different due to the teachings of the Quran

The British have conquered Muslim regions of the world before but the Quran can't stop the war weapons or strategy they use it wouldn't have made a difference if verses were followed or not

 

[Clone]

The British have conquered Muslim regions of the world before but the Quran can't stop the war weapons or strategy they use it wouldn't have made a difference if verses were followed or not

Can you name some

 

[Clone]

The British have conquered Muslim regions of the world before but the Quran can't stop the war weapons or strategy they use it wouldn't have made a difference if verses were followed or not

It does the Quran teaches running anger Allah this makes the fear of death non existent also in Islam dying for Allah is the only 100% way into heaven

 

[SILVER]

Can you name some

No sorry I'm not muslim I'm a Christian

 

[Clone]

No sorry I'm not muslim I'm a Christian

No I meant he region's conquered by Christianity in the middle east

 

[SILVER]

It does the Quran teaches running anger Allah this makes the fear of death non existent also in Islam dying for Allah is the only 100% way into heaven

If this were the case then every army with a strong faith would be undefeated in wars, but there are most definitely examples of soldiers with strong faiths that lost because of technology or tactics not because they feared death

 

[SILVER]

No I meant he region's conquered by Christianity in the middle east

Mahdist war in Sudan

 

[Clone]

If this were the case then every army with a strong faith would be undefeated in wars, but there are most definitely examples of soldiers with strong faiths that lost because of technology or tactics not because they feared death

True but in any other faith running away for battle does not anger God but I'm Islam it does this is huge drive more than self preservation

Islam controls so much land it's insane it has hand on mostly every continent

 

[Clone]

Mahdist war in Sudan

Sudan is still Muslim so clearly the efforts did not work innit

 

[SILVER]

True but in any other faith running away for battle does not anger God but I'm Islam it does this is huge drive more than self preservation
View attachment 255527
Islam controls so much land it's insane it has hand on mostly every continent

But then why would previous islamic empires end up loosing to Wester colonisation If it were the case that angering God was enough theyd still be in power but their faith and beliefs cant stop technology or tactics used in war

 

[Clone]

But then why would previous islamic empires end up loosing to Wester colonisation If it were the case that angering God was enough theyd still be in power but their faith and beliefs cant stop technology or tactics used in war

The west? Wdym Islam never considered Britain Germany or north America innit but even Europe has Muslim nations like Bosnia Albania Turkey etc

 

[SILVER]

The west? Wdym Islam never considered Britain Germany or north America innit but even Europe has Muslim nations like Bosnia Albania Turkey etc

I think you're kinda missing my point western powers have colonised muslim empires but my points not really about geography its that faith can't cause you to win wars. Islamic soldiers likely did wholeheartedly believe retreat angered God but that does not mean that by faith their war tactics were good enough to be undefeated

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

This also explains why the crusades failed and why the middle east is Muslim to this day

No, it is due to the middle east being highly inbred and retarded. They rather have an izzat honour system instead of having one based on guilt.

 

[Clone]

I think you're kinda missing my point western powers have colonised muslim empires but my points not really about geography its that faith can't cause you to win wars. Islamic soldiers likely did wholeheartedly believe retreat angered God but that does not mean that by faith their war tactics were good enough to be undefeated

But the haven't colonized Muslim empires just name one they have colonized did we forgot the caliphates that took hold of Africa and Europe for over 600 years

 

[Clone]

I think you're kinda missing my point western powers have colonised muslim empires but my points not really about geography its that faith can't cause you to win wars. Islamic soldiers likely did wholeheartedly believe retreat angered God but that does not mean that by faith their war tactics were good enough to be undefeated

SO explain the crusades failed then

 

[Clone]

No, it is due to the middle east being highly inbred and retarded. They rather have an izzat honour system instead of having one based on guilt.

Nah explain to me why the crusades failed explain im listening

 

[Clone]

 

[Clone]

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Nah explain to me why the crusades failed explain im listening

Hungary was the posion to the Ottoman empire. The crusades were funded by the churches and kingdoms that were all against each other whilst against the muslims. Yet the muslims managed to stick together and fight against the Europeans due to their unity at that time. They had more numbers and weapons.

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

View attachment 255643

The crusades were justified. In regards to the 15th century I mean as that is the one I know the most about. Hungary had every right to fight the Ottomons as they were invading Eastern europe.

 

[Clone]

Hungary was the posion to the Ottoman empire. The crusades were funded by the churches and kingdoms that were all against each other whilst against the muslims. Yet the muslims managed to stick together and fight against the Europeans due to their unity at that time. They had more numbers and weapons.

What history book are you reading bro

 

[Clone]

The crusades were justified. In regards to the 15th century I mean as that is the one I know the most about. Hungary had every right to fight the Ottomons as they were invading Eastern europe.

Why your babbling about hungry and ottomans I'm talking about the first 2 crusades that failed so bad it's has become a meme

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

What history book are you reading bro

Trust me. If central europe was not in shams and if neither Hungary's economy did not falter or did neither Hunyadi pass away. The Ottomons would have been wiped.

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Why your babbling about hungry and ottomans I'm talking about the first 2 crusades that failed so bad it's has become a meme

I only know about the third which was the most important one that expelled the ottomons.

 

[Clone]

 

[Clone]

Trust me. If central europe was not in shams and if neither Hungary's economy did not falter or did neither Hunyadi pass away. The Ottomons would have been wiped.

Bro what are you actually talking about I'm talking about the CRUSADES not little eruopeans war with the ottomans

 

[Clone]

I only know about the third which was the most important one that expelled the ottomons.

No it wasn't even historically everyone remembers the French,germans,saxons,Romans etc vs the arabs not fucking h vs o

 

[Xoogster]

Sahih al-Bukhari 3289 - Beginning of Creation - كتاب بدء الخلق - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."

 

[Clone]

Sahih al-Bukhari 3289 - Beginning of Creation - كتاب بدء الخلق - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."

Try it it helps ngl

 

[SILVER]

SO explain the crusades failed then

do I have to