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Discussion Life is about seeing how hot you are to doge as many Icks as possible

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Ig most women don’t wanna admit even to themselves they are superficial so they will make excuses on their own heads like how the n***a wears shorts or has a red t shirt or some shit 😂

Sometimes I imagine if a Normie could read a girls mind and be the ideal person in every way if it would work out if he could trigger no Icks at all

Tho it would be a hard task tbh since one goofy move and ur out
 
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Ig most women don’t wanna admit even to themselves they are superficial so they will make excuses on their own heads like how the n***a wears shorts or has a red t shirt or some shit 😂

Sometimes I imagine if a Normie could read a girls mind and be the ideal person in every way if it would work out if he could trigger no Icks at all

Tho it would be a hard task tbh since one goofy move and ur out
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men don’t like me cuz i’m chopped, don’t blame them but i resent them
having sex with women is a humiliation ritual


ou’re supposed to strip down everything, your body, your dignity, your fears, and offer it up to someone who at best tolerates you, and at worst judges you for it

they tell you it’s normal to be vulnerable with women, that it’s healthy, but deep down, you know that every crack you show gets filed away, every weakness you confess becomes invisible ammo, even if they never use it out loud

you’re not being loved, you’re being tolerated for as long as you stay useful, entertaining, or desirable enough to justify your presence.

it’s not vulnerability that feels wrong, it’s who you’re expected to give it to
real vulnerability should be reserved for your brothers, the ones who’ve seen you fall apart and didn’t flinch, the ones who know you’re broken and stand closer anyway

they tell you "trust is sexy", "emotional intimacy is important" , sure, right up until you cry one (1) time and she feels her uterus shrivel out of disgust, you were never a person to her, you were a vibe, a phase, a disposable dopamine hit with an expiration date, a living breathing "can he provide stability and entertain me?" checklist.

real vulnerability isn’t something you toss at people who are biologically hardwired to lose respect for you the second they sense weakness, you save that for the few brothers who’ve seen the wreckage and decided to sit down in it with you, light a cigarette, and say, "yeah, man, life’s a bitch", the only people who can survive the radioactive wasteland of your psyche are the ones already mutated from exposure

women don't want the real you

most of the time, you don't even want the real you, the only people who can stand the smell of your soul rotting are the ones rotting right next to you, and that’s real loyalty, that's real brotherhood, that’s as straight as it gets.

you wanna know real intimacy?

it's chain-smoking with your bro at 2AM, both of you staring into the darkness and saying "yeah, I'd kill myself but the queue is too long"

it's sending each other the dumbest memes imaginable as a replacement for saying "i love you, bro"

go ahead, bare your soul to a woman, just don’t cry when she folds it into a paper airplane and throws it straight into the sun

and when you’re curled up in a ball wondering where it all went wrong, just remember:
you could have been spooning your best friend platonically on a couch that smells like old doritos instead, straight, as, hell
 
having sex with women is a humiliation ritual


ou’re supposed to strip down everything, your body, your dignity, your fears, and offer it up to someone who at best tolerates you, and at worst judges you for it

they tell you it’s normal to be vulnerable with women, that it’s healthy, but deep down, you know that every crack you show gets filed away, every weakness you confess becomes invisible ammo, even if they never use it out loud

you’re not being loved, you’re being tolerated for as long as you stay useful, entertaining, or desirable enough to justify your presence.

it’s not vulnerability that feels wrong, it’s who you’re expected to give it to
real vulnerability should be reserved for your brothers, the ones who’ve seen you fall apart and didn’t flinch, the ones who know you’re broken and stand closer anyway

they tell you "trust is sexy", "emotional intimacy is important" , sure, right up until you cry one (1) time and she feels her uterus shrivel out of disgust, you were never a person to her, you were a vibe, a phase, a disposable dopamine hit with an expiration date, a living breathing "can he provide stability and entertain me?" checklist.

real vulnerability isn’t something you toss at people who are biologically hardwired to lose respect for you the second they sense weakness, you save that for the few brothers who’ve seen the wreckage and decided to sit down in it with you, light a cigarette, and say, "yeah, man, life’s a bitch", the only people who can survive the radioactive wasteland of your psyche are the ones already mutated from exposure

women don't want the real you

most of the time, you don't even want the real you, the only people who can stand the smell of your soul rotting are the ones rotting right next to you, and that’s real loyalty, that's real brotherhood, that’s as straight as it gets.

you wanna know real intimacy?

it's chain-smoking with your bro at 2AM, both of you staring into the darkness and saying "yeah, I'd kill myself but the queue is too long"

it's sending each other the dumbest memes imaginable as a replacement for saying "i love you, bro"

go ahead, bare your soul to a woman, just don’t cry when she folds it into a paper airplane and throws it straight into the sun

and when you’re curled up in a ball wondering where it all went wrong, just remember:
you could have been spooning your best friend platonically on a couch that smells like old doritos instead, straight, as, hell
goes both ways
 
having sex with women is a humiliation ritual


ou’re supposed to strip down everything, your body, your dignity, your fears, and offer it up to someone who at best tolerates you, and at worst judges you for it

they tell you it’s normal to be vulnerable with women, that it’s healthy, but deep down, you know that every crack you show gets filed away, every weakness you confess becomes invisible ammo, even if they never use it out loud

you’re not being loved, you’re being tolerated for as long as you stay useful, entertaining, or desirable enough to justify your presence.

it’s not vulnerability that feels wrong, it’s who you’re expected to give it to
real vulnerability should be reserved for your brothers, the ones who’ve seen you fall apart and didn’t flinch, the ones who know you’re broken and stand closer anyway

they tell you "trust is sexy", "emotional intimacy is important" , sure, right up until you cry one (1) time and she feels her uterus shrivel out of disgust, you were never a person to her, you were a vibe, a phase, a disposable dopamine hit with an expiration date, a living breathing "can he provide stability and entertain me?" checklist.

real vulnerability isn’t something you toss at people who are biologically hardwired to lose respect for you the second they sense weakness, you save that for the few brothers who’ve seen the wreckage and decided to sit down in it with you, light a cigarette, and say, "yeah, man, life’s a bitch", the only people who can survive the radioactive wasteland of your psyche are the ones already mutated from exposure

women don't want the real you

most of the time, you don't even want the real you, the only people who can stand the smell of your soul rotting are the ones rotting right next to you, and that’s real loyalty, that's real brotherhood, that’s as straight as it gets.

you wanna know real intimacy?

it's chain-smoking with your bro at 2AM, both of you staring into the darkness and saying "yeah, I'd kill myself but the queue is too long"

it's sending each other the dumbest memes imaginable as a replacement for saying "i love you, bro"

go ahead, bare your soul to a woman, just don’t cry when she folds it into a paper airplane and throws it straight into the sun

and when you’re curled up in a ball wondering where it all went wrong, just remember:
you could have been spooning your best friend platonically on a couch that smells like old doritos instead, straight, as, hell
I remember this thread
 
Nowadays it’s more common for girls to say some guy is ugly but even now some girls don’t admit at all that they are rejecting someone for being ugly
they want to be seen as good people and actually admitting to rejecting someone for being ugly would break that image they created of themselves in their mind.
 
they want to be seen as good people and actually admitting to rejecting someone for being ugly would break that image they created of themselves in their mind.
on a serious note i do believe women can be loyal + good people, as long as you put them on a leash and give the correct incentives
 
on a serious note i do believe women can be loyal + good people, as long as you put them on a leash and give the correct incentives
same for men, both should’ve been raised correctly as well. you can’t ‘train’ fully grown people. I also believe good men exist although very rare. normie men are capable of being good, ironically blackpilled men tend to have the incentive to cheat and be degenerate.
 
same for men, both should’ve been raised correctly as well. you can’t ‘train’ fully grown people. I also believe good men exist although very rare. normie men are capable of being good, ironically blackpilled men tend to have the incentive to cheat and be degenerate.
no, men can decide to be good through logical thinking. but you need to be tamed like a puppy, you gotta be rewarded for the correct behavior like when you give a dog a treat after he sits
 
no, men can decide to be good through logical thinking.
wdym? i’d like to know more about why you think this. men are the most lustful and polygamous, that takes no logical thinking.
i don’t see anything wrong with that though, it’s in a man’s nature to want to have lots of sex with many women.
but you need to be tamed like a puppy, you gotta be rewarded for the correct behavior like when you give a dog a treat after he sits
so you believe women can be conditioned to be loyal through rewarding good behavior? I don’t believe so, a good woman or man will be good just starting off. unfortunately you can’t change those people. they learn this through childhood.
 
wdym? i’d like to know more about why you think this. men are the most lustful and polygamous, that takes no logical thinking.
i don’t see anything wrong with that though, it’s in a man’s nature to want to have lots of sex with many women.

so you believe women can be conditioned to be loyal through rewarding good behavior? I don’t believe so, a good woman or man will be good just starting off. unfortunately you can’t change those people. they learn this through childhood.
also in these modern times, it’s just more normalized to be whores. both genders.
 
wdym? i’d like to know more about why you think this. men are the most lustful and polygamous, that takes no logical thinking.
i don’t see anything wrong with that though, it’s in a man’s nature to want to have lots of sex with many women.

so you believe women can be conditioned to be loyal through rewarding good behavior? I don’t believe so, a good woman or man will be good just starting off. unfortunately you can’t change those people. they learn this through childhood.
men can choose discipline through logic. lust doesn’t cancel logic, they coexist. difference is, men have the hardware to override their instincts when it serves a greater goal. women? most operate entirely on impulse and emotional incentive. that’s why “training” works, you're not really different from a puppy, because your behavior loops are reward-seeking by nature.

you say “they learn this in childhood” like it’s set in stone. it’s not. women adapt to power. if the reward structure changes, the mask changes. you're not loyal, you're compliant. different game.
 
you'll almost never see a woman die for an idea. for a man it's a normal tuesday.
 
men can choose discipline through logic. lust doesn’t cancel logic, they coexist. difference is, men have the hardware to override their instincts when it serves a greater goal. women? most operate entirely on impulse and emotional incentive. that’s why “training” works, you're not really different from a puppy, because your behavior loops are reward-seeking by nature.

you say “they learn this in childhood” like it’s set in stone. it’s not. women adapt to power. if the reward structure changes, the mask changes. you're not loyal, you're compliant. different game.
Honestly its not gender exclusive there's just a decent amount of people that don't use logic and if you look at both sides of redpill or female dating strategy you will see that this type of behaviour is in no way mutually exclusive since they both tend to have very similar complaints about the oppsoite sex
 
Honestly its not gender exclusive there's just a decent amount of people that don't use logic and if you look at both sides of redpill or female dating strategy you will see that this type of behaviour is in no way mutually exclusive since they both tend to have very similar complaints about the oppsoite sex
you’re mistaking symmetry for equivalence. just because both sexes complain doesn’t mean their behavior is mutually reflective. male complaints are usually logic-based: lack of access, betrayal of loyalty, evolutionary mismatch. female complaints? lack of feeling, attention, emotional thrill.

one side suffers from deprivation, the other from boredom.

i'm not talking about ponctual situations, i'm analyzing the bigger picture.

calling it “not gender exclusive” is a cope. impulse-driven behavior exists in both, yes, but only one sex is socially rewarded for it in modern society.
 
same for men, both should’ve been raised correctly as well. you can’t ‘train’ fully grown people. I also believe good men exist although very rare. normie men are capable of being good, ironically blackpilled men tend to have the incentive to cheat and be degenerate.
blackpilled people in general are just evil. shouldve never gotten into that stuff
 
Women die for ideas, just not in developed countries without extreme levels of violence
right, but that’s the exception proving the rule.

if an idea requires extreme violence or collapse for women to die for it, it means they don’t default to it. men do. that’s the point.

you don’t need war or oppression for a man to throw himself at a cause, just a flag, a god, or a vision.


with women, the idea has to threaten their immediate safety, comfort, or children. otherwise, they don’t move. they don’t sacrifice, they calculate.
 
men can choose discipline through logic. lust doesn’t cancel logic, they coexist.
choosing discipline is rejecting your lust, which is why accepting your lust has no logic. men who live to be lustful are like brainless monkeys.
difference is, men have the hardware to override their instincts when it serves a greater goal.
what hardware would that be? if anything, women do. you guys can impregnate hundreds of women in a day if you desire.
for men it’s easy to get over one-night stands and a quick pump and dump, because that’s your nature.
women? most operate entirely on impulse and emotional incentive. that’s why “training” works, you're not really different from a puppy, because your behavior loops are reward-seeking by nature.
I agree with this, women do operate impulsively and with emotional incentive. i still don’t think anyone can be conditioned into loyalty or complacency though. if a chad comes along no matter how many treats you’ve rewarded her, she will leave if she’s disloyal as a person.
you say “they learn this in childhood” like it’s set in stone. it’s not. women adapt to power. if the reward structure changes, the mask changes. you're not loyal, you're compliant. different game.
they do learn this in childhood (and growing up in society in general), seeing whoring around being normal, talking stages, sneaky links, being promiscuous, all of this will change how a person thinks of themselves and others.
 
right, but that’s the exception proving the rule.

if an idea requires extreme violence or collapse for women to die for it, it means they don’t default to it. men do. that’s the point.

you don’t need war or oppression for a man to throw himself at a cause, just a flag, a god, or a vision.


with women, the idea has to threaten their immediate safety, comfort, or children. otherwise, they don’t move. they don’t sacrifice, they calculate.
i like how you think
 
you’re mistaking symmetry for equivalence. just because both sexes complain doesn’t mean their behavior is mutually reflective. male complaints are usually logic-based: lack of access, betrayal of loyalty, evolutionary mismatch. female complaints? lack of feeling, attention, emotional thrill.

one side suffers from deprivation, the other from boredom.

i'm not talking about ponctual situations, i'm analyzing the bigger picture.

calling it “not gender exclusive” is a cope. impulse-driven behavior exists in both, yes, but only one sex is socially rewarded for it in modern society.
Terrible people are extremely common in the world and always have been, and a lot of female complaints I see are also often things like lack of loyalty, pump and dumps where they're used a placeholder until said man can get someone of higher quality, being lied to etc...

Also yes, it is true that they are encouraged to act impulsively by there shitty peers since things like reckless sex are heavily glamourized even by the media thats commonly promoted
 
right, but that’s the exception proving the rule.

if an idea requires extreme violence or collapse for women to die for it, it means they don’t default to it. men do. that’s the point.

you don’t need war or oppression for a man to throw himself at a cause, just a flag, a god, or a vision.


with women, the idea has to threaten their immediate safety, comfort, or children. otherwise, they don’t move. they don’t sacrifice, they calculate.
psychoanalysis of myself

is personalitymaxxing a thing
 
choosing discipline is rejecting your lust, which is why accepting your lust has no logic. men who live to be lustful are like brainless monkeys.

what hardware would that be? if anything, women do. you guys can impregnate hundreds of women in a day if you desire.
for men it’s easy to get over one-night stands and a quick pump and dump, because that’s your nature.

I agree with this, women do operate impulsively and with emotional incentive. i still don’t think anyone can be conditioned into loyalty or complacency though. if a chad comes along no matter how many treats you’ve rewarded her, she will leave if she’s disloyal as a person.

they do learn this in childhood (and growing up in society in general), seeing whoring around being normal, talking stages, sneaky links, being promiscuous, all of this will change how a person thinks of themselves and others.
yes, a man can impregnate hundreds, but that doesn’t mean he must. the point isn’t what he’s capable of, it’s that he’s cognitively equipped to deny it when there's a greater structure or legacy at stake. women aren’t less lustful, they’re just less burdened by consequences, which makes their restraint less meaningful.

also, saying “if she’s disloyal as a person” is a non-answer. what makes someone that way?
conditioning. exposure. reward systems. the exact things you’re trying to dismiss.
no one is born “good”, they’re shaped. and women are shaped by the power they orbit. if loyalty doesn’t serve them, they adapt, not because they’re evil, but because they’re fluid to incentive.

you’re right about society teaching women to normalize whoring, but you contradict yourself.
if external cues can corrupt someone, then they can also condition them.
 
Also yes, it is true that they are encouraged to act impulsively by there shitty peers since things like reckless sex are heavily glamourized even by the media thats commonly promoted
especially now with bop house, bonnie blue. its disgusting to be completely honest
 
Terrible people are extremely common in the world and always have been, and a lot of female complaints I see are also often things like lack of loyalty, pump and dumps where they're used a placeholder until said man can get someone of higher quality, being lied to etc...

Also yes, it is true that they are encouraged to act impulsively by there shitty peers since things like reckless sex are heavily glamourized even by the media thats commonly promoted
that’s not the debate. the question is: who gets socially punished for impulsive behavior, and who gets socially excused for it?
a man who acts on lust is shamed, called a predator, told to “control himself.”
a woman who does the same is “empowered” or just “finding herself.”


even your own wording gives it away, “encouraged by their peers”.
that’s my point. if your environment applauds degeneracy, and you follow, it means you’re not anchored, you're reactive. and when a person’s default mode is reaction, they’re not trustworthy, they’re programmable.


and let’s be real, female complaints about “being a placeholder” only exist after they’ve been pumped and dumped by choice, chasing men they knew were out of reach.
 
this comes from a guy who received positive reinforcement his entire life, but i'm extremely aware it was random, lottery. i could have the same shitty experiences as my unfortunate peers.
 
that’s not the debate. the question is: who gets socially punished for impulsive behavior, and who gets socially excused for it?
a man who acts on lust is shamed, called a predator, told to “control himself.”
a woman who does the same is “empowered” or just “finding herself.”


even your own wording gives it away, “encouraged by their peers”.
that’s my point. if your environment applauds degeneracy, and you follow, it means you’re not anchored, you're reactive. and when a person’s default mode is reaction, they’re not trustworthy, they’re programmable.


and let’s be real, female complaints about “being a placeholder” only exist after they’ve been pumped and dumped by choice, chasing men they knew were out of reach.
women are actively rewarded for beiing impulsive by peers I'll concede on that, and usually also ignoring signs that a guy is obviously out of reach or simply not interested in that
 
this comes from a guy who received positive reinforcement his entire life, but i'm extremely aware it was random, lottery. i could have the same shitty experiences as my unfortunate peers.
Sounds insensitive for me of all people to say it but I feel that
 
women are actively rewarded for beiing impulsive by peers I'll concede on that, and usually also ignoring signs that a guy is obviously out of reach or simply not interested in that
i have fucked women out of pity as a random joe, so imagine the actual high exposure guys.

high school was crazy, and life is one big high school.
 
yes, a man can impregnate hundreds, but that doesn’t mean he must. the point isn’t what he’s capable of, it’s that he’s cognitively equipped to deny it when there's a greater structure or legacy at stake. women aren’t less lustful, they’re just less burdened by consequences, which makes their restraint less meaningful.
yeah, but here’s the thing. just because men can deny their impulses doesn’t mean they do, or even that they’re better at it. history’s full of men risking everything for sex, so the idea that men are these legacy-driven, self-controlled beings doesn’t really hold up. being capable doesn’t automatically mean being disciplined. and saying women’s restraint is ‘less meaningful’ because they face fewer consequences kinda misses the point. avoiding risk when the stakes are low doesn’t make it easy, it makes it a choice, just like for men. lust isn’t only validated through consequence, and the value of restraint isn’t measured by how much it avoids.
also, saying “if she’s disloyal as a person” is a non-answer. what makes someone that way?
conditioning. exposure. reward systems. the exact things you’re trying to dismiss.
no one is born “good”, they’re shaped. and women are shaped by the power they orbit. if loyalty doesn’t serve them, they adapt, not because they’re evil, but because they’re fluid to incentive.
as for conditioning, sure, people are shaped, but that goes both ways. if women adapt to power, then men adapt to access. everyone’s responding to incentives. the “fluid to incentive” thing isn’t exclusive to women. it’s human.
you’re right about society teaching women to normalize whoring, but you contradict yourself.
if external cues can corrupt someone, then they can also condition them.
true. conditioning works both ways. but acknowledging that also means recognizing men are just as moldable. you can’t use conditioning to explain women’s flaws and then treat men’s as individual choices. that’s not consistency, that’s a loophole.
 
Sounds insensitive for me of all people to say it but I feel that
you don't really feel that, it's your mechanism to not be rejected by the tribe striking in. i don't see you as good or evil, i see you as what you are. i love my mother and my sister.
 
i have fucked women out of pity as a random joe, so imagine the actual high exposure guys.

high school was crazy, and life is one big high school.
Don't know much about highschool cuz Im a loser lol but yeah it is crazy
 
you don't really feel that, it's your mechanism to not be rejected by the tribe striking in. i don't see you as good or evil, i see you as what you are. i love my mother and my sister.
Yeah but I understand the general things that come from your own heritable traits and how they are expressed since its very obvious who hit the jackpot and whos absolutely fucked if you pay any attention to how everyone acts during group activities
 

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