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I never attacked your looks JFL, straight up lying.

All I asked you is that if you agreed with women being hypergamous, and you just ranted instead of answering jfl
Its so funny. She simply overrates herself even while frauded so she can justify being hypergamous and wanting better then her men
 
gonna reply in dot points cause of how easy it is to argue against you
I was talking about the other guy.
- you replied to me with all the stacy shit, so you were talking to me
You attacked my character though.
- didn't attack your character lmao, you're blatantly lying again jfl.
if anything, you attacked my personality
This is literally a thread about an observation a woman made trying to relate to other women. What the actual fuck are you even doing here and why are you here
i'm here to argue against your contradictions, i have no problem with OP
why are you here trying so hard to deny our experience or twist it damn
again i'm not trying to deny shit, you keep coming back to that one reply 2 pages ago when i said "i highly doubt it" instead of focusing on on the more important ones

you contradicted yourself by saying "i'd take any guy as long as he's a personality match" then you said "i can't date looksmatch or below". explain this

so with all your contradictions, don't you think it's natural for someone to doubt what you're saying? (again, not deny lol)
 
gonna reply in dot points cause of how easy it is to argue against you

- you replied to me with all the stacy shit, so you were talking to me

- didn't attack your character lmao, you're blatantly lying again jfl.
if anything, you attacked my personality

i'm here to argue against your contradictions, i have no problem with OP

again i'm not trying to deny shit, you keep coming back to that one reply 2 pages ago when i said "i highly doubt it" instead of focusing on on the more important ones

you contradicted yourself by saying "i'd take any guy as long as he's a personality match" then you said "i can't date looksmatch or below". explain this

so with all your contradictions, don't you think it's natural for someone to doubt what you're saying? (again, not deny lol)
- I replied to you with Stacy shit cause you don’t know how to do make up and can’t tell the difference between barely any and a lot. That’s super obvious to me by now. You said my rating is frauded when I’m barely wearing any make up. Blush and some concealer doesn’t change your whole facial structure. Heavy makeup up would.

- You literally attacked my character and now you’re calling me a liar. I never attacked yours. You said that since I experienced that a lot of men try to use women for sex that’s on me and men only want me for sex then. Even though it’s a common experience among women and one of the points of this thread was to discuss it. Esp. considering the statistics it makes no sense for you to blame that on me. Men don’t only want me for sex because my personality is bad. Most men don’t even make an effort to get to know a girls character in the first place. They care mainly about looks… And not all of us are in spaces where you meet a lot of guys in your day to day. Some of us actually have to seek this out. So when you get on dating apps, they can never see your personality first. They see the looks first and that is also what they stay obsessing with.

-I mean you ignore half my points as well but idc tbh. Let’s face it, you’re denying the obvious. My original point was that looks are more important for women and it still stands. And you arguing against that is frankly just stupid.

- I never contradicted myself. You just don’t know what the reality of being a girl is and you don’t wanna properly listen either. I said I WOULD date my personality match at any time. But I can’t even date my looks match or below. Not because I don’t want to, but because they don’t make an effort, they don’t care about the actual girls behind the looks, they don’t approach us. And the statistics are behind me. Guys don’t approach like they used to in the generations before. So a lot of us wait around forever. Also the reason why I keep mentioning Stacy is because this plays into it as well. Of course then you get approached more (because looks are like I said more important for girls and if someone is hypergamous it’s the men. Cause they always want Stacy no matter their own looks. Y’all come here getting angry at me for not wanting my looks match or below, which I never said btw, but men NEVER go for their looks match. They’d never even go below either. If you really understood one of OPs comments, you’d realize that an unattractive woman is basically non-existent to men. Because in their eyes being attractive is a woman’s job. So if you can’t do that then you’re not acknowledged as a woman. But if you’re a man and can’t do that you’re still a man. And where does that again lead us? oh yea to my point that looks are more important for women…). So what I was trying to say is not that I don’t want to date my looksmatch or below but that it’s in general so difficult to date as a girl. Us dating men “above” us was never the problem. Whether the men are a match or above or below, many will act like shit. As shown in this forum. I don’t share this opinion actually cause at this point, I don’t even willingly go on dates anymore, but a lot of girls actually choose to be hypergamous in that way because of this behavior even from sub5 men. Cause they’d rather get fucked over by an attractive guy than get fucked over by a subhuman who can’t even appreciate them one bit. Cause they never do. Maybe if you’re Stacy they will. That’s why I kept mentioning her. But at this point I don’t even know if striving for ascension for the reason of dating still makes any sense, because even though Stacy might get more opportunities at finding a good partner, there are so many cases of guys finally getting the Stacy they say they wanted oh so badly and then mistreat her and cheat on her a bunch of times. And why is that? Because they loved the looks and not the person and that’s it. And they can easily fall for another woman’s looks. Cause men are superficial. Again proving my point that looks are more important for women. This actually reminds me of the thing we were discussing about with the bald women: if you look at statistics of partner abandonment when it comes to diseases like cancer, way more men abandon their woman when she gets sick (meaning she loses her looks and can’t do anything for him anymore). The women mostly stay with the men and are there for them until the end. Shows who is the more superficial gender once again. And you’ll still sit here and argue looks are more important for men.
 
- I replied to you with Stacy shit cause you don’t know how to do make up and can’t tell the difference between barely any and a lot. That’s super obvious to me by now. You said my rating is frauded when I’m barely wearing any make up. Blush and some concealer doesn’t change your whole facial structure. Heavy makeup up would.
didn't say the makeup changed your facial structure. makeup is still makeup, which is frauded as I said before
You literally attacked my character and now you’re calling me a liar.
didn't attack your character. I called you a liar because you lied.
I experienced that a lot of men try to use women for sex that’s on me and men only want me for sex then. Even though it’s a common experience among women and one of the points of this thread was to discuss it. Esp. considering the statistics it makes no sense for you to blame that on me.
never said it was your fault
Most men don’t even make an effort to get to know a girls character in the first place. They care mainly about looks… And not all of us are in spaces where you meet a lot of guys in your day to day. Some of us actually have to seek this out. So when you get on dating apps, they can never see your personality first. They see the looks first and that is also what they stay obsessing with
Let me drop some statistics since you mentioned dating apps:
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have fun arguing with these statistics lol
My original point was that looks are more important for women and it still stands. And you arguing against that is frankly just stupid.
please see the above statistics
But I can’t even date my looks match or below. Not because I don’t want to, but because they don’t make an effort, they don’t care about the actual girls behind the looks, they don’t approach us. And the statistics are behind me. Guys don’t approach like they used to in the generations before. So a lot of us wait around forever.
i can agree with this, but also remember that the vast majority of approaches do not lead to anything. i'm not talking about specifically you though, just in general. also don't forget that you can approach too if your tired of "waiting around".
because looks are like I said more important for girls and if someone is hypergamous it’s the men. Cause they always want Stacy no matter their own looks
you really think men are more hypergamous than women? look at these statistics
have fun arguing with these once again
Because in their eyes being attractive is a woman’s j*b. So if you can’t do that then you’re not acknowledged as a woman. But if you’re a man and can’t do that you’re still a man.
i agree with this, it's true. but this is because to feel pretty is a feminine trait. if you're a man and can't do that, you're still a man because we have other factors that consider us masculine, such as physical strength and height.
it’s in general so difficult to date as a girl. Us dating men “above” us was never the problem. Whether the men are a match or above or below, many will act like shit. As shown in this forum. I don’t share this opinion actually cause at this point, I don’t even willingly go on dates anymore, but a lot of girls actually choose to be hypergamous in that way because of this behavior even from sub5 men.
did you know that criminals are less likely to be virgins and are in fact much more likely to get dates? people who score the highest in machiavellianism receive the most sex. these are very rarely the "sub5 men" you talk about.
Because they loved the looks and not the person and that’s it. And they can easily fall for another woman’s looks. Cause men are superficial. Again proving my point that looks are more important for women. This actually reminds me of the thing we were discussing about with the bald women: if you look at statistics of partner abandonment when it comes to diseases like cancer, way more men abandon their woman when she gets sick (meaning she loses her looks and can’t do anything for him anymore). The women mostly stay with the men and are there for them until the end. Shows who is the more superficial gender once again.
I could say the exact same for women, but for money instead. Men in the top 1% of wealth are approximately 3 times more likely to be divorced, and I think you know the reason why. But I won't go into specifics because this isn't the main point of the argument.
And you’ll still sit here and argue looks are more important for men.
here's some more statistics:
didn't really need this one, just added it to top it off, but again, i'd like to see you argue with the stats
 
jfl at men complaining about us only wanting chad and then basically treating as worthy only above average women.
I feel like the reason about the 20-80% paradox is that men just settle for average and below average women because of their physiological need to have sex (their sex drive is much stronger than ours, and honestly we fraud hard with makeup and styling) , but they don’t actually like and appreciate them.
I think the main difference about these two genders (both naturally superficial ), is that a woman can idealize a normal guy and actually see him as the hottest thing in the world, while men only fall in love with what they’re seeing (unless it’s like , they’re first love or they’re completely desperate).
This is prolly water, but holy I need some girls to talk about this with.

I wanna say that I’m not actually mad at men or anything, I’m not the kind of girls that hates men, it’s just human nature I guess, but still frustrating .
shut up
 
didn't attack your character. I called you a liar because you lied.
You literally attacked my character and it’s not a lie. I just explained how you attacked my character and you completely ignored it. You placed the blame on me (screenshot attached, no idea how to place it here).
never said it was your fault

Let me drop some statistics since you mentioned dating apps:
I don’t need the statistics that women do better in dating apps. I never said that it wasn’t the case. This is NOT what this was about. My point was and still is that looks are more important for women. And you still can’t say anything against that.
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have fun arguing with these statistics lol
The statistics literally prove my point that looks are more important for women lmao. Way to ignore everything I just said and throw statistics at me that prove nothing. You don’t even engage with my argument properly.
please see the above statistics

i can agree with this, but also remember that the vast majority of approaches do not lead to anything. i'm not talking about specifically you though, just in general. also don't forget that you can approach too if your tired of "waiting around".
Like I said in a previous comment: in 2025 it’s too much to ask that you want the guy to approach you. My whole point was that if y’all put more fort into the approach and the courting process, your looks would matter less. But y’all refuse to believe this. Y’all rather try to enhance your appearance and think Stacy will come and run to you (never gonna happen).
you really think men are more hypergamous than women? look at these statistics
have fun arguing with these once again
Just like you’re arguing with the statistics I gave? Oh wait you’re not arguing with them, you literally ignored them.
i agree with this, it's true. but this is because to feel pretty is a feminine trait. if you're a man and can't do that, you're still a man because we have other factors that consider us masculine, such as physical strength and height.
This is because being pretty is a defining trait of what it means to be a woman in our world. Being good looking isn’t a defining trait for men. Like I said anyone who grew up in this society with a single brain cell can tell this (beauty and clothing industry are the easiest way to see this).
did you know that criminals are less likely to be virgins and are in fact much more likely to get dates? people who score the highest in machiavellianism receive the most sex. these are very rarely the "sub5 men" you talk about.
So you’re saying the people who are the most ruthless and don’t care about others feelings score the most sex? What a surprise.
I could say the exact same for women, but for money instead. Men in the top 1% of wealth are approximately 3 times more likely to be divorced, and I think you know the reason why. But I won't go into specifics because this isn't the main point of the argument.

here's some more statistics:
didn't really need this one, just added it to top it off, but again, i'd like to see you argue with the stats
 

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You literally attacked my character and it’s not a lie. I just explained how you attacked my character and you completely ignored it. You placed the blame on me (screenshot attached, no idea how to place it here).
I didn't blame it on you lol, I just said specifically "you", which isn't blaming. That's not attacking your character.

You attacked by character in multiple ways. You called me princess JFL, and implied I don't have a single braincell. I don't really care about this though, it doesn't hurt me in any way.
I don’t need the statistics that women do better in dating apps. I never said that it wasn’t the case. This is NOT what this was about. My point was and still is that looks are more important for women. And you still can’t say anything against that.
These statistics don't only fucking say women do better on dating apps. Look at the 2 images again, and try to actually comprehend them lol. Explain why photos for men in dating apps matter more than women, but about me/description matter more for women.
The statistics literally prove my point that looks are more important for women lmao. Way to ignore everything I just said and throw statistics at me that prove nothing. You don’t even engage with my argument properly.
So you're telling me these statistics prove nothing? You must be misinterpreting everything, sorry if your not capable to.
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Explain how these statistics "prove your point".
Blue = Men
Green = Women
Just like you’re arguing with the statistics I gave? Oh wait you’re not arguing with them, you literally ignored them.
You gave me no statistics JFL. If you're talking about the bald women stuff and the men approaching stuff, then I did argue against them.

It's actually you who can't argue against these statistics, because they're proving me right JFL.
This is because being pretty is a defining trait of what it means to be a woman in our world. Being good looking isn’t a defining trait for men.
So basically what I said? Nice.

Although this doesn't prove that looks are more important for women.
So you’re saying the people who are the most ruthless and don’t care about others feelings score the most sex? What a surprise.
Think about who gives them the sex. Women give the most ruthless people sex more than they give the less ruthless people per se.

I didn't ignore any relevant information you said. It's more like the opposite tbh.
 

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I didn't blame it on you lol, I just said specifically "you", which isn't blaming. That's not attacking your character.
Yes it is.
You attacked by character in multiple ways. You called me princess JFL, and implied I don't have a single braincell. I don't really care about this though, it doesn't hurt me in any way.
I said anyone who thinks that looks are more important for men than for women doesn’t have a single brain cell. Your problem if you count yourself there.
These statistics don't only fucking say women do better on dating apps. Look at the 2 images again, and try to actually comprehend them lol. Explain why photos for men in dating apps matter more than women, but about me/description matter more for women.
So you're telling me these statistics prove nothing? You must be misinterpreting everything, sorry if your not capable to.
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Explain how these statistics "prove your point".
My point was that the looks of a woman are more important for her when it comes to dating and how she’s seen in the world. more important than for a man. And the statistics prove this. They show that men care more about the picture of a woman aka her looks. And women care more about the description aka what he brings to the table. Literally my point from the beginning. I don’t know how you can’t understand this.
You gave me no statistics JFL. If you're talking about the bald women stuff and the men approaching stuff, then I did argue against them.
You said nothing about the partner abandonment statistics I mentioned which directly correlate to the fact that women are mostly valued for their looks.
Think about who gives them the sex. Women give the most ruthless people sex more than they give the less ruthless people per se.

I didn't ignore any relevant information you said. It's more like the opposite tbh.
In my experience women want to have sex with someone they like and treats them well. So if people with machiavellian affliction are really good at manipulating people and acting like they are someone that they are not, of course they’re gonna get it. You could also say if the actual “good guys” actually approached us and actually tried as hard as the bad ones. They’d get it more too.
 
I didn't blame it on you lol, I just said specifically "you", which isn't blaming. That's not attacking your character.

You attacked by character in multiple ways. You called me princess JFL, and implied I don't have a single braincell. I don't really care about this though, it doesn't hurt me in any way.

These statistics don't only fucking say women do better on dating apps. Look at the 2 images again, and try to actually comprehend them lol. Explain why photos for men in dating apps matter more than women, but about me/description matter more for women.

So you're telling me these statistics prove nothing? You must be misinterpreting everything, sorry if your not capable to.
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Explain how these statistics "prove your point".
Blue = Men
Green = Women

You gave me no statistics JFL. If you're talking about the bald women stuff and the men approaching stuff, then I did argue against them.

It's actually you who can't argue against these statistics, because they're proving me right JFL.

So basically what I said? Nice.

Although this doesn't prove that looks are more important for women.

Think about who gives them the sex. Women give the most ruthless people sex more than they give the less ruthless people per se.

I didn't ignore any relevant information you said. It's more like the opposite tbh.
I honestly don’t even understand why you’re arguing. Seems to me you just don’t want to admit that it’s a behavioural problem on your part. At least I can admit I’m not Stacy and that’s why it’s just not gonna work out (even though even for Stacy she gets fucked over most times). You just can’t admit that you don’t have the personality or resources to treat a woman right. And therefore can’t get the woman you want (which is probably above you). If im wrong about you personally, then so be it, but this is still and attitude that a lot of men, esp on this forum, have.
Real life mechanics can be observed you know…
 
Yes it is.
Can't even argue against this jfl, you gave absolutely no explanation
I said anyone who thinks that looks are more important for men than for women doesn’t have a single brain cell. Your problem if you count yourself there.
Fair enough, although I still think it's a valid point.

So your gonna ignore the princess part?
My point was that the looks of a woman are more important for her when it comes to dating and how she’s seen in the world. more important than for a man. And the statistics prove this. They show that men care more about the picture of a woman aka her looks.
The statistics prove the opposite lol. "They show that men care more about the picture of a woman aka her looks". Do the statistics not show the same thing for women, but to a larger extent? a MUCH larger extent.
And women care more about the description aka what he brings to the table. Literally my point from the beginning. I don’t know how you can’t understand this.
It says the opposite.
Percentage of women who care about looks for men:
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Percentage of women who care about the description for men:
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I can't understand this because you're quite literally quoting the statistics completely wrong
You said nothing about the partner abandonment statistics I mentioned which directly correlate to the fact that women are mostly valued for their looks.
You didn't quote any statistics, even so, I literally did argue against them.

"I could say the exact same for women, but for money instead. Men in the top 1% of wealth are approximately 3 times more likely to be divorced, and I think you know the reason why. I could say that women are more superficial for these reasons, just like you talked about how men are more superficial."

JFL, quote some statistics as well.
In my experience women want to have sex with someone they like and treats them well.
Your experience doesn't align with the statistics then
So if people with machiavellian affliction are really good at manipulating people and acting like they are someone that they are not, of course they’re gonna get it. You could also say if the actual “good guys” actually approached us and actually tried as hard as the bad ones. They’d get it more too.
But this contradicts the fact that "women are only hypergamous because of the men who acts like shit", like you said.
 
I honestly don’t even understand why you’re arguing. Seems to me you just don’t want to admit that it’s a behavioural problem on your part. At least I can admit I’m not Stacy and that’s why it’s just not gonna work out (even though even for Stacy she gets fucked over most times). You just can’t admit that you don’t have the personality or resources to treat a woman right. And therefore can’t get the woman you want (which is probably above you). If im wrong about you personally, then so be it, but this is still and attitude that a lot of men, esp on this forum, have.
Real life mechanics can be observed you know…
I didn't mention anything about myself in any of my replies lol, I'm talking from a general standpoint. Bold of you to assume this about me after I just quoted statistics lol
 
Can't even argue against this jfl, you gave absolutely no explanation
I already gave a huge explanation above which you ignored. Basically said you made it about me and ignored the fact that this is a shared experience, which we wanted to talk about here.
Fair enough, although I still think it's a valid point.

So your gonna ignore the princess part?
Well anyone who’s looks is their first priority and thinks that that’s what’s gonna get people to be drawn to them is a princess to me. In our society (not my opinion) this behaviour is acceptable for women, not for men.
The statistics prove the opposite lol. "They show that men care more about the picture of a woman aka her looks". Do the statistics not show the same thing for women, but to a larger extent? a MUCH larger extent.

It says the opposite.
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Percentage of women who care about the description for men:
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I can't understand this because you're quite literally quoting the statistics completely wrong
I understood it the other way around. I thought the blue is the response men gave and green the response women gave. Would make way more sense as well considering the headline. Maybe send the study link and not just a cut out screenshot.
You didn't quote any statistics, even so, I literally did argue against them.
I did, just didn’t link them cause the ones I talked about are commonly known. I think we all know the one about gen z guys not approaching women. And the partner abandonment one is also easily found by a single google search.

"I could say the exact same for women, but for money instead. Men in the top 1% of wealth are approximately 3 times more likely to be divorced, and I think you know the reason why. I could say that women are more superficial for these reasons, just like you talked about how men are more superficial."
So you admit men are more superficial? Great! Also; you say women are superficial for liking a guy for treatment and resources. When those aspects are rally tied way more closely to a guys character than a woman’s looks are tied to her character lmfao
JFL, quote some statistics as well.

Your experience doesn't align with the statistics then
It does. Literally does align with the statistics I mentioned.
But this contradicts the fact that "women are only hypergamous because of the men who acts like shit", like you said.
Nah I was just arguing against the unnecessarily obvious point about machiavellians getting what they want without care for others.
 
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I didn't mention anything about myself in any of my replies lol, I'm talking from a general standpoint. Bold of you to assume this about me after I just quoted statistics lol
The fact that you’re even arguing shows this. What I said in the begging what made all of you get angry at me was that the dating game is more linear for men. Even the evolutionary study you sent in some time ago proves this. Social status and ability to get resources plays a bigger role for men (aside from their looks). Getting an education, earning a decent amount of cash (not even 10%, just decently above average) is gonna guarantee Stacy. And there’s no arguing with that. You can literally see it in the real world, on social media, everywhere. If you do the same as a girl it’s not gonna guarantee you chad. Which most don’t even want. It’s not even gonna guarantee you your looks match. It’s not gonna guarantee you even a subhuman that treats you right. It guarantees absolutely nothing. And that was my point. It’s more difficult and nuanced for women. Not as linear.
 
I already gave a huge explanation above which you ignored. Basically said you made it about me and ignored the fact that this is a shared experience, which we wanted to talk about here.
I didn't ignore shit, I argued to every single one of your points
Well anyone who’s looks is their first priority and thinks that that’s what’s gonna get people to be drawn to them is a princess to me. In our society (not my opinion) this behaviour is acceptable for women, not for men.
My point was that you attacked my character. Not if i'm a princess or not.
I understood it the other way around. I thought the blue is the response men gave and green the response women gave. Would make way more sense as well considering the headline. Maybe send the study link and not just a cut out screenshot.
Okay since you understand it now, can you argue against it? I cut out an image because that's the main point I wanted to emphasize.
Here's the link btw:
I did, just didn’t link them cause the ones I talked about are commonly known. I think we all know the one about gen z guys not approaching women. And the partner abandonment one is also easily found by a single google search.
Thanks, now argue against my point.
So you admit men are more superficial? Great!
You missed the whole point JFL, did you even read it? When did I ever admit men are more superficial?
It does. Literally does align with the statistics I mentioned.
I'm talking about when you said "In my experience women want to have sex with someone they like and treats them well." It doesn't align with the statistics I mentioned. I'm not talking about your statistics.
Nah I was just arguing against the unnecessarily obvious point about machiavellians getting what they want without care for others.
This doesn't change the fact that what you said before was still very contradictory.
 
The fact that you’re even arguing shows this.
arent u arguing too?
Even the evolutionary study you sent in some time ago proves this. Social status and ability to get resources plays a bigger role for men (aside from their looks).
you didn't read the study
Getting an education, earning a decent amount of cash (not even 10%, just decently above average) is gonna guarantee Stacy. And there’s no arguing with that. You can literally see it in the real world, on social media, everywhere. If you do the same as a girl it’s not gonna guarantee you chad. Which most don’t even want.
do you know how rare a stacy is lmao
 
I didn't ignore shit, I argued to every single one of your points
You ignore the partner abandonment and continued to do so.
My point was that you attacked my character. Not if i'm a princess or not.
Didn’t attack your character. Great that we settled the point that you are a princess though. If it’s a fact then it’s not an attack just an observation.
Okay since you understand it now, can you argue against it? I cut out an image because that's the main point I wanted to emphasize.
Here's the link btw:
I can barely find it cause the thing is so long omg. At the end of the day even if these statistics prove your point. Other statistics and the way our society is structured proof my point. You know that even study’s can contradict each other. And statistics ≠ ultimate fact right?
Thanks, now argue against my point.

You missed the whole point JFL, did you even read it? When did I ever admit men are more superficial?
I misread but edited after. Saying women are superficial for wanting good treatment and resources makes no sense. Treatment and resources are directly tied to the guys character. A woman’s looks are not tied to her character. Guys are the superficial ones.
I'm talking about when you said "In my experience women want to have sex with someone they like and treats them well." It doesn't align with the statistics I mentioned. I'm not talking about your statistics.

This doesn't change the fact that what you said before was still very contradictory.
So because of some tinder statistics you’re gonna argue that human nature isn’t to want what pleasures you and literally brings your nervous system joy, but willingly want what’s bad for you? Ok ig…
 
arent u arguing too?
I replied to another girls thread looking to share experience with other girls. Youre here on the female looksmaxinf side trying to start an argument. I literally didn’t start talking to you. All I said is that for men it’s more linear and you still can’t argue against that. You just got mad about it instead and try to deny it.
you didn't read the study
I just quoted it correctly
 
Lookism affects both genders and is getting increasingly worse as time goes on.

Getting an education, earning a decent amount of cash (not even 10%, just decently above average) is gonna guarantee Stacy.
This is also retarded. I don't want to join in with this debate, but come on now.
 
Lookism affects both genders and is getting increasingly worse as time goes on.


This is also retarded. I don't want to join in with this debate, but come on now.
Never said it doesn’t affect men. I said it affects women more.

Also if you say that that is retarded then explain why we see wealthy men with gorgeous women above them all the time.
 
No argument, just emojis. Just say you can’t say anything against that.
Wait I saw some back and forth, someone saying you overrate yourself

Impressive transformation I saw a post

What do you rate yourself now though?
 
Never said it doesn’t affect men. I said it affects women more.
Sure. In different regions, different cultures, and different genomics.
For example, it's harder for women in the east, whereas it's harder for men in the west.

Also if you say that that is retarded then explain why we see wealthy men with gorgeous women above them all the time.
Because they have the resources to facilitate all their wants and needs? Except, of course, when it comes to actual love. They're nothing more than trophy wives who would cheat on their husbands if guaranteed financial stability.
 
Wait I saw some back and forth, someone saying you overrate yourself

Impressive transformation I saw a post

What do you rate yourself now though?
I don’t overrate myself. I said that some have rated me in mtb-htb range. Even if you rated me as a Ltb or 2/10 or whatever. I’d accept that, but my point would still stand. They said I don’t want to date my looks match or below, when I didn’t say that and in reality it’s difficult to find any man to date tbh no matter his looks (due to the behaviour/attitude of a lot of men towards women).

I’d give myself mtb ig. Argue all you want. I mean I’ve been rated as Stacy as well which I know is definitely false and glazing. But making this thread about my rating is just plain stupid. It varies from person to person and has nothing to do with my point.
 
I don’t overrate myself. I said that some have rated me in mtb-htb range. Even if you rated me as a Ltb or 2/10 or whatever. I’d accept that, but my point would still stand. They said I don’t want to date my looks match or below, when I didn’t say that and in reality it’s difficult to find any man to date tbh no matter his looks (due to the behaviour/attitude of a lot of men towards women).

I’d give myself mtb ig. Argue all you want. I mean I’ve been rated as Stacy as well which I know is definitely false and glazing. But making this thread about my rating is just plain stupid. It varies from person to person and has nothing to do with my point.
mtb my ass monkey
 
Sure. In different regions, different cultures, and different genomics.
For example, it's harder for women in the east, whereas it's harder for men in the west.
So you’re just gonna ignore the structure of our society in the west? And all the obvious signs in daily life, like the beauty industry and the way women dress (made to accentuate their looks) vs how men dress (simple, because what matters is the actual person and character). Also gonna ignore the countless studies conducted in the west that prove that men are more superficial?
Because they have the resources to facilitate all their wants and needs? Except, of course, when it comes to actual love. They're nothing more than trophy wives who would cheat on their husbands if guaranteed financial stability.
Well this was never about actual love to begin with. This started with some men here arguing that them wanting Stacy is actual love. And generally about the way men fall in “love” for mostly superficial reasons.
 
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1)fucking get sued for SA even though doing nothing
2)approaching their looksmatch and she saying "ewwww" or "youre cute but not for dating"
3)getting slapped because she is disgusted by the thought that you were attracted to them
4)etc. i have more in my mind im just lazy
 
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1)fucking get sued for SA even though doing nothing
2)approaching their looksmatch and she saying "ewwww" or "youre cute but not for dating"
3)getting slapped because she is disgusted by the thought that you were attracted to them
4)etc. i have more in my mind im just lazy
Nah I totally get that. But you have to think of the fact that there are risks for women when dating as well. I mean everytime we go on a date we could get r***d and or killed. Which is worse than all the points you mentioned.
 
Like I said you could rate me as subhuman and my point would still stand. Also why don’t you poste a quick frontal of your face and physique and let’s rate you.
i dont need validation from online people. i was rated by hundreds of individuals on org by lmtn-hmtn. im 6'1 with green eyes white skinned.i have nothing to prove you
 
I’d give myself mtb ig.
So you give yourself MTB

But you'd only date a dude who's MTB or HTB,
my looks match would logically be any guy in mtn or htn range

so equal, or higher, as he said
I’d take any guy that would be a personality match and doesn’t have a lust problem though.
Then you just blatantly lie here, why would distinguish what looks level they'd need, if it also doesn't matter

Yeah you are a retarded ltb with monkey IQ

Even if you are MTB you're expecting equal or higher, you'd never date down

But you're also not hypergamous?

Make it make sense.

@truetard @pepelkant what a fucking idiot
 
Nah I totally get that. But you have to think of the fact that there are risks for women when dating as well. I mean everytime we go on a date we could get r***d and or killed. Which is worse than all the points you mentioned.
just have a gun theory
 
i dont need validation from online people. i was rated by hundreds of individuals on org by lmtn-hmtn. im 6'1 with green eyes white skinned.i have nothing to prove you
Sure that’s why you’re here. Cause you’re satisfied with your appearance.
 
So you give yourself MTB

But you'd only date a dude who's MTB or HTB,


so equal, or higher, as he said

Then you just blatantly lie here, why would distinguish what looks level they'd need, if it also doesn't matter

Yeah you are a retarded ltb with monkey IQ

Even if you are MTB you're expecting equal or higher, you'd never date down

But you're also not hypergamous?

Make it make sense.

@truetard @pepelkant what a fucking idiot
Dont even try to explain it to her. She cant fathom that she looks bad
 
So you give yourself MTB

But you'd only date a dude who's MTB or HTB,


so equal, or higher, as he said

Then you just blatantly lie here, why would distinguish what looks level they'd need, if it also doesn't matter

Yeah you are a retarded ltb with monkey IQ

Even if you are MTB you're expecting equal or higher, you'd never date down

But you're also not hypergamous?

Make it make sense.

@truetard @pepelkant what a fucking idiot
I don’t expect the same or higher I said that many times. You’re the low iq one for not being able to read.
 
Sure that’s why you’re here. Cause you’re satisfied with your appearance.
Brutal I'm chadlite at 5"6

Logically I'm ltn, as height is a major failo
(Notice how I'm giving myself an accurate assessment)

And yet, I'd still never touch you because you look like a man and have race failo

I have super low standards btw, just don't be bald, and don't look like a man
 
So you give yourself MTB

But you'd only date a dude who's MTB or HTB,


so equal, or higher, as he said

Then you just blatantly lie here, why would distinguish what looks level they'd need, if it also doesn't matter

Yeah you are a retarded ltb with monkey IQ

Even if you are MTB you're expecting equal or higher, you'd never date down

But you're also not hypergamous?

Make it make sense.

@truetard @pepelkant what a fucking idiot
Just say you can’t read
 

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I don’t expect the same or higher I said that many times. You’re the low iq one for not being able to read.
So you give yourself MTB

But you'd only date a dude who's MTB or HTB,


so equal, or higher, as he said

Then you just blatantly lie here, why would distinguish what looks level they'd need, if it also doesn't matter

Even if you are MTB you're expecting equal or higher, you'd never date down

But you're also not hypergamous?
GayGymMaxx just fucked you right in the brain just accept it
 
Brutal I'm chadlite at 5"6

Logically I'm ltn, as height is a major failo
(Notice how I'm giving myself an accurate assessment)

And yet, I'd still never touch you because you look like a man and have race failo

I have super low standards btw, just don't be bald, and don't look like a man
im sorry for your loss boss. i will pray to god(manmade) for you to become 6'3
 
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