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Discussion My opinion about Richard Ramirez

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First of all, it's important to clarify that I'm not supporting or glorifying his actions in any way. Now, moving on to the second part, I believe it's a huge mistake to even consider putting him in prison. There are several reasons for this, and they all revolve around his extremely difficult upbringing, which needs to be taken into serious consideration.

He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.

Locking him up in prison won't solve the root of the problem—it'll just punish him for becoming a product of his environment. What he truly needed was psychological help and rehabilitation. I believe that, at the very least, he should have been placed in a mental health facility for a minimum of 4 years. There, he could have received intensive psychological support, therapy to process his past traumas, and education on basic values and social norms.

In this facility, he would also have access to essential needs like food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a supportive environment where he could learn how to function as a responsible and non-violent member of society. This type of therapeutic setting would focus on healing and re-education rather than punishment.

After completing his treatment, he shouldn't just be thrown back into society without any support. He should be provided with transitional housing that includes a caregiver who would continue to support his emotional and psychological needs. This housing would also provide him with food, water, a place to shower, and all other basic necessities, funded by the state.

This support system should remain in place until he is ready to become independent, either by securing a job or finding another stable living situation. The idea is to give him a real chance to rebuild his life in a positive way, rather than setting him up for failure by leaving him to fend for himself.

Additionally, given his past and the potential dangers he might face because of it, it's crucial to change his identity. This would help him break free from his past environment and give him a fresh start, reducing the risk of him falling back into old patterns or being targeted because of his past actions.
 
dnr the guy needed the electric chair
he literally r***d a kid bro
He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.
 
First of all, it's important to clarify that I'm not supporting or glorifying his actions in any way. Now, moving on to the second part, I believe it's a huge mistake to even consider putting him in prison. There are several reasons for this, and they all revolve around his extremely difficult upbringing, which needs to be taken into serious consideration.

He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.

Locking him up in prison won't solve the root of the problem—it'll just punish him for becoming a product of his environment. What he truly needed was psychological help and rehabilitation. I believe that, at the very least, he should have been placed in a mental health facility for a minimum of 4 years. There, he could have received intensive psychological support, therapy to process his past traumas, and education on basic values and social norms.

In this facility, he would also have access to essential needs like food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a supportive environment where he could learn how to function as a responsible and non-violent member of society. This type of therapeutic setting would focus on healing and re-education rather than punishment.

After completing his treatment, he shouldn't just be thrown back into society without any support. He should be provided with transitional housing that includes a caregiver who would continue to support his emotional and psychological needs. This housing would also provide him with food, water, a place to shower, and all other basic necessities, funded by the state.

This support system should remain in place until he is ready to become independent, either by securing a job or finding another stable living situation. The idea is to give him a real chance to rebuild his life in a positive way, rather than setting him up for failure by leaving him to fend for himself.

Additionally, given his past and the potential dangers he might face because of it, it's crucial to change his identity. This would help him break free from his past environment and give him a fresh start, reducing the risk of him falling back into old patterns or being targeted because of his past actions.
dnr they should've just kilt him in the court room.
 
He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.
there are many people who grow up in a similar environment and they dont do the stuff he did
 
dnr they should've just kilt him in the court room.​
Wow, that's intense. I get the anger, but to me, it's not that black and white. Like, obviously, he did horrible things, but if you think about what he went through, it makes sense why his mind got so messed up.
I’m not saying we should feel sorry for him, but killing him? That’s just continuing the cycle of violence. I think it would’ve been better to try to rehabilitate him instead of ending it like that.
 
Wow, that's intense. I get the anger, but to me, it's not that black and white. Like, obviously, he did horrible things, but if you think about what he went through, it makes sense why his mind got so messed up.
I’m not saying we should feel sorry for him, but killing him? That’s just continuing the cycle of violence. I think it would’ve been better to try to rehabilitate him instead of ending it like that.
I've seen similar things to him and I dont think let me go kill and r**e a bunch of people just because i've seen it😂
 
there are many people who grow up in a similar environment and they dont do the stuff he did
but not everyone reacts the same way to trauma. Some people are more resilient, while others break under the pressure. It depends on personality, support systems, and just plain luck.
I'm not saying his actions are justified, but I do think his background played a huge role. It doesn't excuse what he did, but it helps explain how he got there.
 
I've seen similar things to him and I dont think let me go kill and r**e a bunch of people just because i've seen it😂
everyday people, even where i live there is a very high rate of people having these types of childhoods

he is not one in a million bro..
but not everyone reacts the same way to trauma. Some people are more resilient, while others break under the pressure. It depends on personality, support systems, and just plain luck.
I'm not saying his actions are justified, but I do think his background played a huge role. It doesn't excuse what he did, but it helps explain how he got there.
 
everyday people, even where i live there is a very high rate of people having these types of childhoods

he is not one in a million bro..
right? like his ass not special.
 
but not everyone reacts the same way to trauma. Some people are more resilient, while others break under the pressure. It depends on personality, support systems, and just plain luck.
I'm not saying his actions are justified, but I do think his background played a huge role. It doesn't excuse what he did, but it helps explain how he got there.
how would you feel if someone r***d and kill ur mother and the court said "well he had a bad childhood so we'll let him off the hook!"
 
No way u can write this after the guy has broken so many homes, Murdered women, elderly, kids in their sleep like the coward he is. Lets not forget the horrific stuff he did to them. No way did this guy deserve anything else than the electric chair. Wish he got it sooner than he did. I don’t care what he went through. He was a sicko.
 
but not everyone reacts the same way to trauma. Some people are more resilient, while others break under the pressure. It depends on personality, support systems, and just plain luck.
I'm not saying his actions are justified, but I do think his background played a huge role. It doesn't excuse what he did, but it helps explain how he got there.
give this much sympathy to someone who actually deserves it. He doesn't deserve a pity party because of his childhood. He showed no remorse about his actions, so why do you feel bad for him.
 
First of all, it's important to clarify that I'm not supporting or glorifying his actions in any way. Now, moving on to the second part, I believe it's a huge mistake to even consider putting him in prison. There are several reasons for this, and they all revolve around his extremely difficult upbringing, which needs to be taken into serious consideration.

He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.

Locking him up in prison won't solve the root of the problem—it'll just punish him for becoming a product of his environment. What he truly needed was psychological help and rehabilitation. I believe that, at the very least, he should have been placed in a mental health facility for a minimum of 4 years. There, he could have received intensive psychological support, therapy to process his past traumas, and education on basic values and social norms.

In this facility, he would also have access to essential needs like food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a supportive environment where he could learn how to function as a responsible and non-violent member of society. This type of therapeutic setting would focus on healing and re-education rather than punishment.

After completing his treatment, he shouldn't just be thrown back into society without any support. He should be provided with transitional housing that includes a caregiver who would continue to support his emotional and psychological needs. This housing would also provide him with food, water, a place to shower, and all other basic necessities, funded by the state.

This support system should remain in place until he is ready to become independent, either by securing a job or finding another stable living situation. The idea is to give him a real chance to rebuild his life in a positive way, rather than setting him up for failure by leaving him to fend for himself.

Additionally, given his past and the potential dangers he might face because of it, it's crucial to change his identity. This would help him break free from his past environment and give him a fresh start, reducing the risk of him falling back into old patterns or being targeted because of his past actions.
Jew.
 
give this much sympathy to someone who actually deserves it. He doesn't deserve a pity party because of his childhood. He showed no remorse about his actions, so why do you feel bad for him.
Its cuz of his face, I see it happen so many times. When a horrible human being actually looks half decent, there will be tons of mentally ill women supporting them. Like the fanmail RR got in his jailcell.. or Ted Bundy.
 
No way u can write this after the guy has broken so many homes, Murdered women, elderly, kids in their sleep like the coward he is. Lets not forget the horrific stuff he did to them. No way did this guy deserve anything else than the electric chair. Wish he got it sooner than he did. I don’t care what he went through. He was a sicko.​
He moved in with his uncle because his home was full of violence and abuse. But instead of finding a safe environment, he found himself in an even worse situation. His uncle, who returned from the Vietnam War with psychological trauma, became the only influential figure in his life.

Instead of providing him with positive guidance and support, his uncle exposed him to disturbing and twisted content. He showed him photos of extreme violence, told him graphic stories, and even boasted about his actions towards women – severe acts of harm and control. He presented these actions as legitimate and even desirable, influencing him to believe that this was how a man should behave.

All of this happened when he was only 11 years old – a critical age when the brain is developing and personal values are beginning to form. He didn’t have any other positive role models in his life, not at school and not in his family, to teach him the difference between right and wrong. His uncle was his only source of values and worldview, so he grew up believing that his uncle’s actions were normal and even worth imitating.

In addition, he suffered from severe emotional neglect. He didn’t receive any support, love, or moral guidance. He grew up feeling abandoned and isolated, with no safe environment to help him understand what moral behavior is.

In such a situation, where was he supposed to learn the right values? How could he have known that hurting others is wrong if the only person influencing him taught him otherwise? This doesn’t justify his actions, but it does explain how he developed such a distorted mindset.
 
First of all, it's important to clarify that I'm not supporting or glorifying his actions in any way. Now, moving on to the second part, I believe it's a huge mistake to even consider putting him in prison. There are several reasons for this, and they all revolve around his extremely difficult upbringing, which needs to be taken into serious consideration.

He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.

Locking him up in prison won't solve the root of the problem—it'll just punish him for becoming a product of his environment. What he truly needed was psychological help and rehabilitation. I believe that, at the very least, he should have been placed in a mental health facility for a minimum of 4 years. There, he could have received intensive psychological support, therapy to process his past traumas, and education on basic values and social norms.

In this facility, he would also have access to essential needs like food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a supportive environment where he could learn how to function as a responsible and non-violent member of society. This type of therapeutic setting would focus on healing and re-education rather than punishment.

After completing his treatment, he shouldn't just be thrown back into society without any support. He should be provided with transitional housing that includes a caregiver who would continue to support his emotional and psychological needs. This housing would also provide him with food, water, a place to shower, and all other basic necessities, funded by the state.

This support system should remain in place until he is ready to become independent, either by securing a job or finding another stable living situation. The idea is to give him a real chance to rebuild his life in a positive way, rather than setting him up for failure by leaving him to fend for himself.

Additionally, given his past and the potential dangers he might face because of it, it's crucial to change his identity. This would help him break free from his past environment and give him a fresh start, reducing the risk of him falling back into old patterns or being targeted because of his past actions.
After reading it, shitty thread. He knew very well that what he did was wrong and he was a manipulator of his time. Then, having a shitty past does not justify anything and would only indicate that he almost certainly could not be reintegrated into society.
 
give this much sympathy to someone who actually deserves it. He doesn't deserve a pity party because of his childhood. He showed no remorse about his actions, so why do you feel bad for him.
Its cuz of his face, I see it happen so many times. When a horrible human being actually looks half decent, there will be tons of mentally ill women supporting them. Like the fanmail RR got in his jailcell.. or Ted Bundy.
I've read all of his sentences, he has a good enough reason, and I don't even find him attractive
 
After reading it, shitty thread. He knew very well that what he did was wrong and he was a manipulator of his time. Then, having a shitty past does not justify anything and would only indicate that he almost certainly could not be reintegrated into society.
I understand where you’re coming from, and you’re right – nothing justifies what he did. His actions were horrific, and he is 100% responsible for them. I’m not trying to feel sorry for him or downplay the severity of what he did.
That being said, you can’t ignore the fact that he grew up in an environment that completely distorted his sense of reality. He went through things no child should ever go through, and he was taught to believe that violence and hurting others were legitimate. This doesn’t make his actions any less horrible, but it does explain how he became such a twisted person.
Talking about this doesn’t mean he should be forgiven or freed from responsibility. It just means that maybe psychological treatment should have been part of his punishment because he’s not just a criminal – he’s also the result of a fundamentally broken upbringing.
I get that this is a sensitive topic and that not everyone will see it this way, but that’s how I see it.
 
I understand where you’re coming from, and you’re right – nothing justifies what he did. His actions were horrific, and he is 100% responsible for them. I’m not trying to feel sorry for him or downplay the severity of what he did.
That being said, you can’t ignore the fact that he grew up in an environment that completely distorted his sense of reality. He went through things no child should ever go through, and he was taught to believe that violence and hurting others were legitimate. This doesn’t make his actions any less horrible, but it does explain how he became such a twisted person.
Talking about this doesn’t mean he should be forgiven or freed from responsibility. It just means that maybe psychological treatment should have been part of his punishment because he’s not just a criminal – he’s also the result of a fundamentally broken upbringing.
I get that this is a sensitive topic and that not everyone will see it this way, but that’s how I see it.
you having to repsond with chat gpt generated prompts already proves ur just ragebaiting, dnr
 
First of all, it's important to clarify that I'm not supporting or glorifying his actions in any way. Now, moving on to the second part, I believe it's a huge mistake to even consider putting him in prison. There are several reasons for this, and they all revolve around his extremely difficult upbringing, which needs to be taken into serious consideration.

He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.

Locking him up in prison won't solve the root of the problem—it'll just punish him for becoming a product of his environment. What he truly needed was psychological help and rehabilitation. I believe that, at the very least, he should have been placed in a mental health facility for a minimum of 4 years. There, he could have received intensive psychological support, therapy to process his past traumas, and education on basic values and social norms.

In this facility, he would also have access to essential needs like food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a supportive environment where he could learn how to function as a responsible and non-violent member of society. This type of therapeutic setting would focus on healing and re-education rather than punishment.

After completing his treatment, he shouldn't just be thrown back into society without any support. He should be provided with transitional housing that includes a caregiver who would continue to support his emotional and psychological needs. This housing would also provide him with food, water, a place to shower, and all other basic necessities, funded by the state.

This support system should remain in place until he is ready to become independent, either by securing a job or finding another stable living situation. The idea is to give him a real chance to rebuild his life in a positive way, rather than setting him up for failure by leaving him to fend for himself.

Additionally, given his past and the potential dangers he might face because of it, it's crucial to change his identity. This would help him break free from his past environment and give him a fresh start, reducing the risk of him falling back into old patterns or being targeted because of his past actions.
common shit thread in .com
 
First of all, it's important to clarify that I'm not supporting or glorifying his actions in any way. Now, moving on to the second part, I believe it's a huge mistake to even consider putting him in prison. There are several reasons for this, and they all revolve around his extremely difficult upbringing, which needs to be taken into serious consideration.

He grew up in an environment filled with violence and abuse, witnessing horrific things like assaults and rapes at a very young age. These experiences shaped his worldview and behavior because no one was there to guide him or teach him the difference between right and wrong. He internalized this toxic environment as "normal" or even as a "personal example" to follow, not because he's inherently evil, but because he simply didn't know any better.

Locking him up in prison won't solve the root of the problem—it'll just punish him for becoming a product of his environment. What he truly needed was psychological help and rehabilitation. I believe that, at the very least, he should have been placed in a mental health facility for a minimum of 4 years. There, he could have received intensive psychological support, therapy to process his past traumas, and education on basic values and social norms.

In this facility, he would also have access to essential needs like food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a supportive environment where he could learn how to function as a responsible and non-violent member of society. This type of therapeutic setting would focus on healing and re-education rather than punishment.

After completing his treatment, he shouldn't just be thrown back into society without any support. He should be provided with transitional housing that includes a caregiver who would continue to support his emotional and psychological needs. This housing would also provide him with food, water, a place to shower, and all other basic necessities, funded by the state.

This support system should remain in place until he is ready to become independent, either by securing a job or finding another stable living situation. The idea is to give him a real chance to rebuild his life in a positive way, rather than setting him up for failure by leaving him to fend for himself.

Additionally, given his past and the potential dangers he might face because of it, it's crucial to change his identity. This would help him break free from his past environment and give him a fresh start, reducing the risk of him falling back into old patterns or being targeted because of his past actions.
his upbringing is definitely sad and obviously fucked him up and was a huge reason as to why he did what he did, but it's still not an excuse, and nobody that has sexually assaulted 11 people, and murdered 13 (one of them being a 9-year-old girl) deserves rehabilitation. He would get out and do the same thing again, 100%.
 
I've read all of his sentences, he has a good enough reason, and I don't even find him attractive
?? Theres no reason to go into people’s homes murdering and sexually assaulting children. What are u on abt?
 
his upbringing is definitely sad and obviously fucked him up and was a huge reason as to why he did what he did, but it's still not an excuse, and nobody that has sexually assaulted 11 people, and murdered 13 (one of them being a 9-year-old girl) deserves rehabilitation. He would get out and do the same thing again, 100%.​
I understand where you’re coming from, and you’re right – nothing justifies what he did. His actions were horrific, and he is 100% responsible for them. I’m not trying to feel sorry for him or downplay the severity of what he did.​
 
?? Theres no reason to go into people’s homes murdering and sexually assaulting children. What are u on abt?
Well maybe you're right, but I still feel bad for him
 
You are downplaying them when you say he should be rehabilitated, given a personal caretaker, fed, housed, etc all funded by the government, and that after he's ready, he should be given another name??? Give a serial murder and rapist an alias????
 
I understand where you’re coming from, and you’re right – nothing justifies what he did. His actions were horrific, and he is 100% responsible for them. I’m not trying to feel sorry for him or downplay the severity of what he did.
That being said, you can’t ignore the fact that he grew up in an environment that completely distorted his sense of reality. He went through things no child should ever go through, and he was taught to believe that violence and hurting others were legitimate. This doesn’t make his actions any less horrible, but it does explain how he became such a twisted person.
Talking about this doesn’t mean he should be forgiven or freed from responsibility. It just means that maybe psychological treatment should have been part of his punishment because he’s not just a criminal – he’s also the result of a fundamentally broken upbringing.
I get that this is a sensitive topic and that not everyone will see it this way, but that’s how I see it.
yes, he's the result of a broken home. But you keep repeating I'm not trying to justify his actions but the way you're wording it makes it seem like you are. I don't believe anything could help him. No psychological treatment no nothing. Even when he was AWARE that what he was doing was wrong he still didn't care? His childhood can be an answer for his actions but what if he had a perfectly normal childhood and still grew up to be the Richard Ramierz we know today? Of course, his childhood plays a role in to it. But he had to have gone to school and interact with other HUMANS. He could've been scolded for hurting the other kids around him. He's just someone who had no remorse. Truely an evil spirit.
 
Didn't read but he did deserve some type of punishment like to be institutionalized just so everyone else would be safe
 

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