Nothing more pathetic than being skinny or fat or skinny fat as a man

[Mandy?]

but most 18yo llike muscles (comes down to balance), like prime david laid level (tall, small hips waist, wide clavicles), about 200lbs at 6'2, that's not a lot of muscle

16 year old David laid has max appeal.

 

[TonyDr]

I've seen a shit ton of 18-25 yo who get wet seeing muscles, I've seen too much of them

no doubt that face height and frame still are the biggest factor, but it's stupid to deny that higher than average muscle mass (like 16-18 inch arms) will benefit you a lot

Most of the time it's Calisthenics guys type of body, plus you still need to have a facecard. Past that point it's a niche for fitness girls or women having a thing for the bear type of body (higher bf%)

 

[dipenhydramine]

I don’t think roids or training has to do with anything like that. Sleep apnea is mostly caused by a tight airway,pre cursed by a recessed maxilla. I’ve never even heard that sleep apnea is a literal side effect because since when do they cause recession.

look it up they do idk why it just happens

you are talking about 250lbs+ juiced to the grills ones

also disgusting

 

[Delilahjones]

yea i did there but whqt im saying still stands tbh

mobility reduced, harder to move, lower stamina etc

completely abnormal and not what nature intended for our bodies

yeah bro jeff seid is too jacked i guess yet look how he moves

 

[Delilahjones]

Most of the time it's Calisthenics guys type of body, plus you still need to have a facecard. Past that point it's a niche for fitness girls or women having a thing for the bear type of body (higher bf%)

Yeah? and my poinnt wasnt' about being huge BB, but rather aesthetic guy like david laid ?

 

[Mandy?]

yea i did there but whqt im saying still stands tbh

mobility reduced, harder to move, lower stamina etc

completely abnormal and not what nature intended for our bodies

Usually harder movements and poor mobility are caused when you have the muscle mass of a IFBB pro. Sometimes can be avoided with compound workouts.

 

[dipenhydramine]

yeah bro jeff seid is too jacked i guess yet look how he moves

he looks disgusting though
and is not natural

whos gonna be able to
run longer, him or a skinny athletic build

whos gonna be able to walk longer
climb better
better long term strength over short bursts

 

[Delilahjones]

16 year old David laid has max appeal.

that is literally my point, idk why these guys argue with me

 

[dipenhydramine]

Usually harder movements and poor mobility are caused when you have the muscle mass of a IFBB pro. Sometimes can be avoided with compound workouts.

some dudes cant fucking reach they backs

 

[Delilahjones]

he looks disgusting though
and is not natural

whos gonna be able to
run longer, him or a skinny athletic build

whos gonna be able to walk longer
climb better
better long term strength over short bursts

whos gonna make more bitches wet and win in a fight? exactly.

stop coping bro

 

[Mandy?]

he looks disgusting though
and is not natural

whos gonna be able to
run longer, him or a skinny athletic build

whos gonna be able to walk longer
climb better
better long term strength over short bursts

Who the fuck is not natty at 15. Jeff has insane genetics something that only comes a few times a century maybe.

 

[Delilahjones]

some dudes cant fucking reach they backs

n***a we aren't talking about them, we are talking about guys like jon skywalker david laid jeff seid

 

[TonyDr]

Yeah? and my poinnt wasnt' about being huge BB, but rather aesthetic guy like david laid ?

David laid is pure genetics. Facecard, mogger frame at birth. Not a lot of guys will have his aesthetic shape

 

[Delilahjones]

David laid is pure genetics. Facecard, mogger frame at birth. Not a lot of guys will have his aesthetic shape

still better than being skinny fat or skinny?

 

[Delilahjones]

he doesn't look disgusting at all to me

 

[dipenhydramine]

whos gonna make more bitches wet and win in a fight? exactly.

stop coping bro

tribesman biologically

finding muscle attractive is propaganda put on TV at a young age

how can this whole forum agree that what is attractive facially are the traits our ancestors had/tribesmen have such has high cheekbones but somehow that logic changes when it comes to bodies?

n***a we aren't talking about them, we are talking about guys like jon skywalker david laid jeff seid

yes and they still look disgusting

 

[dipenhydramine]

he doesn't look disgusting at all to me

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he does to me

 

[TonyDr]

still better than being skinny fat or skinny?

What i meant is that people will look close to KBoges the youtuber than David Laid

 

[Delilahjones]

finding muscle attractive is propaganda put on TV at a young age

Cope, it's natural, just like when you see a woman with tiny waist wide hips fat ass big tits good skin quality and you get horny, same when they see big shoulders arms chest traps wide clavicles small hips waist and shredded abs

 

[Mandy?]

tribesman biologically

finding muscle attractive is propaganda put on TV at a young age

how can this whole forum agree that what is attractive facially are the traits our ancestors had/tribesmen have such has high cheekbones but somehow that logic changes when it comes to bodies?

yes and they still look disgusting

Which girl is getting wet at this except the baddies at the tribe whom have never seen another kind of people?

 

[Delilahjones]

What i meant is that people will look close to KBoges the youtuber than David Laid

yeah, water, he still looks good

 

[Delilahjones]

you can't convince me ive seen way too many girls who are into that and luckily most of them my type (high e and feminine)

 

[dipenhydramine]

Cope, it's natural, just like when you see a woman with tiny waist wide hips fat ass big tits good skin quality and you get horny, same when they see big shoulders arms chest traps wide clavicles small hips waist and shredded abs

also propaganda

 

[dipenhydramine]

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Which girl is getting wet at this except the baddies at the tribe whom have never seen another kind of people?

me if i was a girk

 

[Mandy?]

me if i was a girk

No you wouldn’t

 

[dipenhydramine]

No you wouldn’t

i would its the body im aiming for already

 

[TonyDr]

you can't convince me ive seen way too many girls who are into that and luckily most of them my type (high e and feminine)

I agree, the natty route seems ideal tho.
No point in blasting unless you have medical conditions like low-T

 

[Delilahjones]

I agree, the natty route seems ideal tho.
No point in blasting unless you have medical conditions like low-T

Yeah i didn't say you should blast (though I do, but that's my choice)

 

[DonJuanDeMarco]

I’d say a muscular physique always beats a skinny one.

Its the icing on the cake, face above all else still though. You don’t need a crazy physique, just above avg arms, frame etc.

U mustn’t be avg, why would she pick you over the countless skinny guys on the street?

 

[tuberculosisinmybal]

When I see guys like that I genuinely can't respect them

Exception is if it's a kid or a teenager

Chill I'm fat

 

[Currycelloser]

he looks disgusting though
and is not natural

whos gonna be able to
run longer, him or a skinny athletic build

whos gonna be able to walk longer
climb better
better long term strength over short bursts

ur crazy bro

 

[dipenhydramine]

ur crazy bro

im honest

 

[Delilahjones]

I’d say a muscular physique always beats a skinny one.

Its the icing on the cake, face above all else still though. You don’t need a crazy physique, just above avg arms, frame etc.

U mustn’t be avg, why would she pick you over the countless skinny guys on the street?

that was my point

 

[Currycelloser]

im honest

girls thirst over jeff seid's body btw, especially at the beach

 

[Delilahjones]

girls thirst over jeff seid's body btw, especially at the beach

they love V line abs, chest, arms, V taper, vascularity

 

[Currycelloser]

they love V line abs, chest, arms, V taper, vascularity

true

 

[DonJuanDeMarco]

Its so funny to see some guy with a pretty chiseled face and then 12 inch tooth pick arms.

So much wasted potential.

You don’t even need much size, just gotta be slighty bigger than the avg man.

Doesn’t look like he lives in the gym, apart from his leanness. Doesn’t have crazy size. Proportional build.

Now imagine if he was skinny instead, think women would take him serious?

We should all be gymmaxxing

 

[dipenhydramine]

girls thirst over jeff seid's body btw, especially at the beach

unnatural only due to propaganda that enlarged over the top proportions are beautiful despite them being a low percent of the population

even in women like fucking huge gyats are gross

the natural body is the most beautiful

 

[DonJuanDeMarco]

that was my point

It honestly sucks having avg size as a man.
We’re her on a looksmax forum, shouldn’t we be maxxing out everything we can?

BARE MINIMUM
15+ inch arms
wide frame
some decent abs and leanness 12-15% (lower looks too tryhard ngl)

Any less and you’re not even trying, shame on you.

The reality is, most ppl here aren’t even 15% bodyfat. Don’t lift cause “it hurts” and are fine with staying average..

 

[doll]

When I see guys like that I genuinely can't respect them

Exception is if it's a kid or a teenager

legit, soyfag trait

 

[BlendedBulge]

legit, soyfag trait

These guys just won’t admit they are pussies that don’t have what it takes

So they cope “muh girls don’t like muscles”

Almost every girl I’ve spoken to said she likes muscles and lean body (just don’t be overly jacked)

 

[tulip]

On my soulll