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“A key that opens all locks is a master key, a lock that is opened by all keys is useless”
- Cristiano Ronaldo.
It is no secret that promiscuity has never been well regarded, the religions of Abraham along with many others have prohibited promiscuity and fornication, although Islam allows polygyny with up to 4 wives. This case is relatively common among cultures around the world, especially outside Europe. But is this normal? Is it our nature? Has it been like this throughout history? Why is there hypocrisy when it comes to judging promiscuity in men and women? Is promiscuity good for mental health?
Historically, humans can be classified as monogamous with polygynous tendencies, that is, they generally formed ties of 1 with 1 and very occasionally of 1 with 2 or more women. According to George P. Murdock's Ethnographic Atlas, of 1231 societies, 186 were monogamous, 453 occasionally had polygyny, 588 regularly practiced polygyny and only 4 had polyandry (brutal numbers, over for women). The pattern of most societies followed the following distribution, since the majority of citizens practiced monogamy while Kings, emperors, noble aristocrats and wealthy people tended to have relationships with multiple women and these women were subordinated to having to share a man in all areas.
Speaking in terms of religion, as I said, fornication was prohibited in all Abrahamic religions. In the case of Greco-Roman societies, for example, much of it was formal monogamy, but accompanied by various forms of concubinage, such as polygyny with enslaved women. The Greek citizen could have sex with his wife, with a concubine, with male and female slaves, and with male and female prostitutes, but he could not have relations with a citizen of his age or assume a passive role with any man of any status. These types of relationships were rejected and ridiculed, so, contrary to what many think, this was not a society of sexual freedom, but rather sex was a privilege belonging to citizens (free men) from marriage, pederasty, concubinage, and sexual slavery. On the other hand, in Athens, if a woman was discovered committing adultery, she would be forcibly divorced and prohibited from participating in public religion, and if the husband refused the divorce (Low t cuck), he could lose his rights as a citizen. In the case of the Aztecs, they were mostly monogamous but there were no laws regulating how many women a man could marry and any man could have as many wives as he could financially afford, by the way, women were expected to be virgins until marriage. I could go on giving examples but this pattern is extremely common throughout history with obscene amounts of documentation in its favor.
If we look at it from this point of view it seems that the male drive is to have as many wives as his resources allow. From the woman's point of view it seems that she would always be willing to share a man with other women if she could access other men. Not only this but if we examine the history of human desire, it could be summed up as the desire of man.
It is no secret that throughout history the will of women has been denied to be below that of men in almost all societies and even so it is not safe to infer the will of the common man but rather the will of the king, emperor or ruler because not everyone always lived as they wanted.
So to have a clear answer on whether polyamory is natural we will have to look for answers in prehistory, before the invention of agriculture and writing, which is difficult because we do not have time machines. But if we are going to talk about biology we will have to start from the beginning.
The point of sex is reproduction, if you are a mosquito and you want to reproduce you just have to suck some blood and leave 400 eggs at some point in your 2-month cycle, leave 400 eggs, of which of those 400 possible children you are not going to worry about any. If you are a dog you can conceive at just 6 months old, if you are a male you have nothing else to worry about but if you are a female you will have to take care of your puppies. And of course this is not the case for humans.
Ours is a peculiar case because humans have a larger brain so we also have greater nutritional needs and we have a longer development which means that our parents must spend too much time raising us. The mothers must become pregnant while being unwell and helpless and our parents must take care of us for many years, almost a decade and a half perhaps in the
In the modern world this may sound trivial but having to survive and raise offspring in the mundane nature seems to be something more complicated.
Well, to understand how you behave we have to understand how you should have behaved thousands of years ago. All this about love, couples and raising children is the most convenient evolutionary strategy for success in reproduction and survival. This branch of psychology that studies our behavior throughout primitive history is called evolutionary psychology and since we cannot take a time machine to go to the Pleistocene and apply the scientific method to cavemen, this branch is mostly made up of theories so we cannot be sure if certain behaviors are due to cultural influence or are part of the human psyche. After this long context we can try to explain some things.
Does the double standard exist? Why?
We can define this standard as the belief that men should be admired for their high sexual activity while women should be denigrated and humiliated for the same behavior. There are actually many papers that examine this double standard, the results of which surprised me quite a bit. It seems that this mentality manifests itself in some instances and not with all people, and even the gender varies from the point of view. And there seem to be factors that influence whether someone holds this hypocrisy, such as each person's sexual habits or religiosity. However, if you live in the real world, you will have noticed the existence of this double standard.
This could be explained in two ways:
1- Correction of bias: By asking something so explicitly, it makes the person realize their bias and correct it.
2- The bias is not as common as it is believed or it is being dissolved by the new Hook-up culture.
If we look at history, fornication and casual sex were commonly forbidden, but men were allowed to have several relationships if they were able to maintain them. Psychological and evolutionary theories give the following explanation:
We already know that the purpose of human beings is reproduction (in reality it is praising Allah swt) but men and women do it in a very different way. A man can impregnate a virtually infinite number of women since you can ejaculate a practically infinite number of times. But if you are a woman you will have to wait at least 9 months to be able to conceive a child and later breastfeed and care for it. Men and women can begin to procreate at some point in their adolescence, but age makes women infertile while men can have offspring until the day they die (with worse sperm quality). Mainly because the body most influenced in reproduction is that of the woman.
There is also a very interesting phenomenon in evolutionary psychology, the waist to hip ratio, which is the ratio of how wide your hips are compared to your waist. It is no secret that men are attracted to hourglass-shaped bodies and this is not something that is even remotely conscious. This ratio is an indicator of fertility and youth, extremely important variables in reproduction. Curiously, several studies indicate that the more children you have, the worse this characteristic becomes, making you lose that fertile appearance and probably affecting your children in some way.
There is also a correlation between sociosexuality (the amount of casual sex you have had) and the likelihood of being unfaithful to your partner. For both men and women, the greater your sexual history, the greater the chances of committing infidelity. Although men have infinite reproductive potential, they must be concerned that the offspring are really theirs. The process of raising, feeding and maintaining offspring is a process that serves to ensure that the copy you created of yourself does not die and can be successful in spreading your genes, the thing is that raising a child is extremely costly in terms of time, effort and resources so it is imperative to ensure that the offspring you are going to raise are really yours. Curiously, researching this I found that in the United Kingdom the number of men who raise children that are not theirs is 2% (Brutal for Bri'hishcels) There is also evidence of how men tend to worry and care more for children that look and smell like them.
In the case of the short sexual encounter, the man having an almost infinite potential and the woman being so limited makes it so that in these encounters women have much more to invest than men and that is why men are much more open to casual sex, and in simple economic terms when the demand for something is high the price goes up.
In the modern sexual market
Men are worth much less than women in terms of sexual encounters and short-term relationships. If we examine the modern sexual market, especially the short-term one, we find more evidence that reinforces this idea. On Tinder, women swipe right 15% of the time while men swipe right 50% of the time. And on Tinder, 75% of users are men and 25% are women.
Being promiscuous in the short term is very easy for women and very difficult for men. According to this theory, women do not seek casual sex to the same degree as men do, since it would be an illogical move considering the cards that nature has dealt them.
However, in the case of men, casual sex is a very low-investment way of expanding their genome. In other words, being promiscuous is more difficult for men, but also more convenient, when in the case of women it is the other way around. Therefore, theoretically speaking, sexually libertarian behavior in women should not be imitated by others and should not cause interest in men, since they must ensure that their offspring is theirs. This makes sexual infidelity in a woman very costly for both men and women, while sexual infidelity in a man is very inexpensive for both.
@ameliore @moggerofhumanity @adn @geneticCage @neymar @Chifuyu I will continue soon
- Cristiano Ronaldo.
It is no secret that promiscuity has never been well regarded, the religions of Abraham along with many others have prohibited promiscuity and fornication, although Islam allows polygyny with up to 4 wives. This case is relatively common among cultures around the world, especially outside Europe. But is this normal? Is it our nature? Has it been like this throughout history? Why is there hypocrisy when it comes to judging promiscuity in men and women? Is promiscuity good for mental health?
Historically, humans can be classified as monogamous with polygynous tendencies, that is, they generally formed ties of 1 with 1 and very occasionally of 1 with 2 or more women. According to George P. Murdock's Ethnographic Atlas, of 1231 societies, 186 were monogamous, 453 occasionally had polygyny, 588 regularly practiced polygyny and only 4 had polyandry (brutal numbers, over for women). The pattern of most societies followed the following distribution, since the majority of citizens practiced monogamy while Kings, emperors, noble aristocrats and wealthy people tended to have relationships with multiple women and these women were subordinated to having to share a man in all areas.
Speaking in terms of religion, as I said, fornication was prohibited in all Abrahamic religions. In the case of Greco-Roman societies, for example, much of it was formal monogamy, but accompanied by various forms of concubinage, such as polygyny with enslaved women. The Greek citizen could have sex with his wife, with a concubine, with male and female slaves, and with male and female prostitutes, but he could not have relations with a citizen of his age or assume a passive role with any man of any status. These types of relationships were rejected and ridiculed, so, contrary to what many think, this was not a society of sexual freedom, but rather sex was a privilege belonging to citizens (free men) from marriage, pederasty, concubinage, and sexual slavery. On the other hand, in Athens, if a woman was discovered committing adultery, she would be forcibly divorced and prohibited from participating in public religion, and if the husband refused the divorce (Low t cuck), he could lose his rights as a citizen. In the case of the Aztecs, they were mostly monogamous but there were no laws regulating how many women a man could marry and any man could have as many wives as he could financially afford, by the way, women were expected to be virgins until marriage. I could go on giving examples but this pattern is extremely common throughout history with obscene amounts of documentation in its favor.
If we look at it from this point of view it seems that the male drive is to have as many wives as his resources allow. From the woman's point of view it seems that she would always be willing to share a man with other women if she could access other men. Not only this but if we examine the history of human desire, it could be summed up as the desire of man.
It is no secret that throughout history the will of women has been denied to be below that of men in almost all societies and even so it is not safe to infer the will of the common man but rather the will of the king, emperor or ruler because not everyone always lived as they wanted.
So to have a clear answer on whether polyamory is natural we will have to look for answers in prehistory, before the invention of agriculture and writing, which is difficult because we do not have time machines. But if we are going to talk about biology we will have to start from the beginning.
The point of sex is reproduction, if you are a mosquito and you want to reproduce you just have to suck some blood and leave 400 eggs at some point in your 2-month cycle, leave 400 eggs, of which of those 400 possible children you are not going to worry about any. If you are a dog you can conceive at just 6 months old, if you are a male you have nothing else to worry about but if you are a female you will have to take care of your puppies. And of course this is not the case for humans.
Ours is a peculiar case because humans have a larger brain so we also have greater nutritional needs and we have a longer development which means that our parents must spend too much time raising us. The mothers must become pregnant while being unwell and helpless and our parents must take care of us for many years, almost a decade and a half perhaps in the
In the modern world this may sound trivial but having to survive and raise offspring in the mundane nature seems to be something more complicated.
Well, to understand how you behave we have to understand how you should have behaved thousands of years ago. All this about love, couples and raising children is the most convenient evolutionary strategy for success in reproduction and survival. This branch of psychology that studies our behavior throughout primitive history is called evolutionary psychology and since we cannot take a time machine to go to the Pleistocene and apply the scientific method to cavemen, this branch is mostly made up of theories so we cannot be sure if certain behaviors are due to cultural influence or are part of the human psyche. After this long context we can try to explain some things.
Does the double standard exist? Why?
We can define this standard as the belief that men should be admired for their high sexual activity while women should be denigrated and humiliated for the same behavior. There are actually many papers that examine this double standard, the results of which surprised me quite a bit. It seems that this mentality manifests itself in some instances and not with all people, and even the gender varies from the point of view. And there seem to be factors that influence whether someone holds this hypocrisy, such as each person's sexual habits or religiosity. However, if you live in the real world, you will have noticed the existence of this double standard.
This could be explained in two ways:
1- Correction of bias: By asking something so explicitly, it makes the person realize their bias and correct it.
2- The bias is not as common as it is believed or it is being dissolved by the new Hook-up culture.
If we look at history, fornication and casual sex were commonly forbidden, but men were allowed to have several relationships if they were able to maintain them. Psychological and evolutionary theories give the following explanation:
We already know that the purpose of human beings is reproduction (in reality it is praising Allah swt) but men and women do it in a very different way. A man can impregnate a virtually infinite number of women since you can ejaculate a practically infinite number of times. But if you are a woman you will have to wait at least 9 months to be able to conceive a child and later breastfeed and care for it. Men and women can begin to procreate at some point in their adolescence, but age makes women infertile while men can have offspring until the day they die (with worse sperm quality). Mainly because the body most influenced in reproduction is that of the woman.
There is also a very interesting phenomenon in evolutionary psychology, the waist to hip ratio, which is the ratio of how wide your hips are compared to your waist. It is no secret that men are attracted to hourglass-shaped bodies and this is not something that is even remotely conscious. This ratio is an indicator of fertility and youth, extremely important variables in reproduction. Curiously, several studies indicate that the more children you have, the worse this characteristic becomes, making you lose that fertile appearance and probably affecting your children in some way.
There is also a correlation between sociosexuality (the amount of casual sex you have had) and the likelihood of being unfaithful to your partner. For both men and women, the greater your sexual history, the greater the chances of committing infidelity. Although men have infinite reproductive potential, they must be concerned that the offspring are really theirs. The process of raising, feeding and maintaining offspring is a process that serves to ensure that the copy you created of yourself does not die and can be successful in spreading your genes, the thing is that raising a child is extremely costly in terms of time, effort and resources so it is imperative to ensure that the offspring you are going to raise are really yours. Curiously, researching this I found that in the United Kingdom the number of men who raise children that are not theirs is 2% (Brutal for Bri'hishcels) There is also evidence of how men tend to worry and care more for children that look and smell like them.
In the case of the short sexual encounter, the man having an almost infinite potential and the woman being so limited makes it so that in these encounters women have much more to invest than men and that is why men are much more open to casual sex, and in simple economic terms when the demand for something is high the price goes up.
In the modern sexual market
Men are worth much less than women in terms of sexual encounters and short-term relationships. If we examine the modern sexual market, especially the short-term one, we find more evidence that reinforces this idea. On Tinder, women swipe right 15% of the time while men swipe right 50% of the time. And on Tinder, 75% of users are men and 25% are women.
Being promiscuous in the short term is very easy for women and very difficult for men. According to this theory, women do not seek casual sex to the same degree as men do, since it would be an illogical move considering the cards that nature has dealt them.
However, in the case of men, casual sex is a very low-investment way of expanding their genome. In other words, being promiscuous is more difficult for men, but also more convenient, when in the case of women it is the other way around. Therefore, theoretically speaking, sexually libertarian behavior in women should not be imitated by others and should not cause interest in men, since they must ensure that their offspring is theirs. This makes sexual infidelity in a woman very costly for both men and women, while sexual infidelity in a man is very inexpensive for both.
@ameliore @moggerofhumanity @adn @geneticCage @neymar @Chifuyu I will continue soon
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