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TLDR Your jaw probably isn't too square, it's just being forced into an unnatural position by your teeth.
Introduction
Repost since I posted in the wrong section jflI decided to make this guide since there isn't much direct information on it. There is also a lot of shitty information, particularly from South Korean surgery institutions that convince people to cut off their ramus (jaw shaving) instead of actually addressing the root cause of the issue. Jaw shaving is completely unnecessary in most cases and looks worse, especially on men. However, these surgeons upload heavily photoshopped before and after pics to convince scam people. I almost fell for this fraud, so I'm here to give all you fellow Minecraftcels the truth. This thread is meant to be understood by people who have no prior knowledge, so I will be explaining things that might seem obvious to many of you.
Deep Bite vs. Overbite, Dental vs. Skeletal
In a normal bite, the top front teeth (incisors) are positioned slightly in front of the bottom incisors and cover the bottom incisors from the front slightly when biting down. An overbite is a type of malocclusion (abnormal bite) designated as Class 2, where the top teeth protrude much farther out than the bottom teeth. A deep bite is a special kind of overbite where your top incisors cover most of the bottom incisors when biting down.
Malocclusion can be skeletal or dental. Skeletal malocclusions are caused by improper development of the jaw and require surgery or expanders to fix. Dental deep bites mean that the jaw is properly developed, but the teeth are positioned in a way that causes a malocclusion. This can be corrected solely with braces, which is what this thread will cover.
How do I know if I have a dental deep bite and why is it so important? Dental deep bites are special because your top teeth will be hitting your lower teeth when biting down, which is caused by your top incisors being rotated inward. If you relax your jaw completely and your lower jaw naturally comes forward to the point where you can't bite fully without shoving your lower jaw back, this is a very strong sign of a dental deep bite. Essentially, your top incisors are blocking your lower jaw from resting in its natural position, which is slightly forward and clockwise.
The unnatural position of a dental deep bite makes your chin, along with the entire lower 1/3rd of your face, look short. Combined with a long ramus, it gives you the classic Minecraftcel look. This also tends to cause effects like tension, clicking, bruxism, and masseter hypertrophy (enlargement of the jaw muscles), which makes your jaw unnaturally wide.
Good readings on this:
Understanding the Differences Between Skeletal Malocclusion and Dental Malocclusion in Orthodontics MR BUR US
Achieving optimal alignment of the teeth and jaws is a cornerstone of orthodontic treatment. However, not all malocclusions—misalignments of the teeth MR BUR US
www.mrbur.com
Deep Bite vs Overbite: What’s the Difference?
Learn the difference between a deep bite and an overbite, including causes, symptoms, and orthodontic treatment options for children.
ironwoodpediatricdentistry.com
Dental vs Skeletal Deep bite
This is my most important and last thread since discovering this. This is the entire reason i am ugly and why im recessed and grew to be recessed If you found this thread through searching deep bite then ask chatgpt to test if yours is skeletal or dental, dental is where your jaw feels like it...
How braces fix dental deep bites
When you get braces to fix a dental deep bite, you'll get bite blocks (also called bite pillows, ramps, etc.) to prop your bite open. This allows for your incisors to be rotated outward while your back teeth (molars) can grow out more. The result is that your bite will close at a shallower point, which is the natural position of the jaw. Of course, if you have a long ramus, your jaw will still look square, but it will be properly positioned and look good. Sometimes, your orthodontist may put a bite block in the back for the first few weeks and transition to an incisor bite block, which is also fine.
Some other things to note:
- If you had extreme masseter hypertrophy (jaw is wider than cheekbones), it may not go away even with braces. However, minor masseter hypertrophy should resolve by itself when your jaw rests in its natural position.
- It's better to have the bite blocks positioned on your incisors to let your molars grow out faster. Sometimes, you can also get rubber bands to speed this process up.
- Besides the aesthetic benefit, you will genuinely feel so much better without the constant clicking and grinding that dental deep bites cause.
- I will restate again that this only applies for dental deep bites. If you have a skeletal malocclusion, you will need surgery/expanders.
- "Braces recess you!" This could only happen if you get extractions, and most orthodontists know better these days.
- "Braces can't change your jaw, they just move teeth around." In most cases, this is true because malocclusions tend to be skeletal. However, dental malocclusions can be fixed with braces alone because the teeth are simply blocking the jaw from resting in the natural position.
- South Korea in general has very backwards beauty standards and you should not take advice from them, even if you are East Asian. It is better to have a properly positioned square jaw than whatever bullshit they are creating over there.