Guide Self-made Looksmaxxing guide

[lmrz.]

If you ever feel stuck in your looksmaxxing journey, refer to this guide that I've made myself. Be aware that these techniques won't work for everyone (some techniques only work for teenagers because they are going through puberty). Goes well in depth so I hope it helps, good luck to everyone and you might even already know some of these techniques.

Contents:
-What makes a man attractive
-Forward growth (only for people in puberty)
-Bone mass
-Sodium/water retention
-Hormonal optimization
-Testosterone
-Skin
-Eye area

Guide below:

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Looksmaxxing Guide​

Before trying any of these techniques, make sure to read all the information carefully so you fully understand how each process works.

What makes a man physically attractive?​

• Prominent cheekbones: Give a youthful appearance and make the face look more defined. Offers for hollow cheeks if well-developed enough.
• Facial symmetry: Having good facial symmetry is a sign of attractiveness.
• Defined jawline: Occurs when muscle growth is good, which is due to high testosterone. It also displays strength and creates a contrast from the neck and jaw.
• Forward growth: Contributes to balanced facial features. A lack of forward growth will lead to a recessed chin, usually caused by nasal breathing.
• Positive canthal tilt: This tilts the corners of the eyes upwards, making them look wider. A negative canthal tilt is considered attractive, making the eyes appear to droop downwards.
• Clear skin: Offers a sense of youthfulness and overall health.
• Hooded eyes: Offers a sense of mystery and depth to their gaze. They also give one a more confident look and ‘fox-eyes’.
• Hair: Well-washed and shiny hair.

Bone Structure​

• Maxilla: An attractive maxilla has good forward growth. A lack of forward growth will make the face look as if it has been pushed backwards.
• Zygomatic bone: Makes the cheeks look more prominent and the skin more elastic.
• Mandible: It grounds the lower third of the face, ensuring that the facial features align properly.
• Ramus: The less vertical lower part of the jaw. When the ramus is shorter, it creates a wider angle of the mandible and results in a rounder face, which gives one a more feminine look.

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Forward Growth​

Definition: The natural or intentionally stimulated development of the upper and lower jaws forward and upward, leading to a more prominent or defined jawline and facial structure.

How can forward growth be promoted?​

• Train facial muscles: Training facial muscles helps to build muscle tone and create the necessary support for forward maxilla development, complementing techniques like mewing and facial exercises.
• Mewing: Mewing is a technique that involves placing your tongue on the roof of your mouth, with the tip just behind your front teeth. This tongue posture helps to apply gentle pressure on the maxilla, encouraging it to grow forward and expand. Over time, mewing can help to improve jaw definition, facial symmetry, and overall facial appearance.
• Nasal breathing: Bones remodel in response to mechanical pressure. This is called Wolff’s Law. Tongue pressure (~1-5 oz of force) against the palate and premaxilla triggers osteoblast activity (bone-building cells). This causes the maxilla to grow forward and outward. The face becomes shorter, wider, and more projected. Without nasal breathing, the tongue sits low, no pressure is applied, and the face grows downward instead of forward.

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How to Increase Bone Mass/Density​

Source: PubMed

"During the past decade, we and others have shown that bone is a storehouse for growth factors. Accordingly, bone contains a number of growth factors including insulin-like growth factors I and II (IGF-I, IGF-II), transforming growth factor (TGF-beta 1, TGF-beta 2), platelet-derived growth factor, basic and acidic fibroblast growth factor, and bone morphogenetic proteins (BMPs). Osteoblasts have been shown to produce many of these growth factors, which then act in an autocrine and paracrine fashion. The production of these growth factors is regulated by both systemic hormones and local mechanical stress. Recent studies on the relative distribution of bone growth factors during different physiologic and pathologic situations indicate that the concentration of bone growth factors is not invariant and provide indirect evidence that growth factors deposited in bone have physiologic significance. In addition, many of these bone growth factors have been shown to increase bone formation either systemically or locally in vivo. Based on the past findings, we propose that different growth factors may have a specific role in regulating proliferation and differentiation of different stages of osteoblast lineage cells and play important roles in the local regulation of bone formation."

• Osteoblasts: Osteoblasts are the cells required for bone synthesis and mineralization, both during the initial formation of bone and during bone remodelling.
• Osteoporosis: A condition that weakens bones and increases the risk of fractures.

It may surprise you to learn that building muscle is an integral part of growing new bone and reversing osteoporosis and osteopenia. Stimulation from muscle is a significant part of the bone remodelling cycle, particularly the modelling aspect. Ample data confirms that your muscles must have protein to build and strengthen. This concept is not just for bodybuilders – it’s for anyone who wants to nourish their bodies to reach optimal health (including bone health).

• Leucine: Leucine may be new to many of you. This powerful amino acid is necessary for the proper synthesis of protein into muscle tissue. Leucine increases cellular energy by stimulating the production of protein in skeletal muscle tissue, making leucine intake especially important as we age.

RDA: Recommended daily allowance

Foods High in Leucine​

• Nuts (and seeds – pumpkin seeds are the richest source)
• Fish (tuna), seafood (lobster and shrimp)
• Beans (white beans, pinto beans, kidney beans, black beans)
• Cheese (Parmesan cheese – one ounce providing 126% of the RDA)
• Peanuts (Peanut butter is a concentrated source of leucine – half a cup will give you 73%.)
• Beef (with three ounces of lean steak providing 2690mg – almost 100% of the RDA)

Collagen​

Collagen makes up almost a third of our skin, bone, and connective tissue. There are 28 types of collagens that have been identified. Type I is the most prevalent and abundant, and it is responsible for the flexible strength of bone.


Your bones are always remodelling (renewing themselves) – old bone is removed by osteoclast cells, while new bone is deposited by osteoblasts. Research has shown that when collagen is present in the bone matrix, osteoblasts are stimulated instead of osteoclasts. In addition, collagen has been shown to promote the maturation of osteoblasts and boost their activity.

Collagen Building Nutrients​

• Vitamin C
• Vitamin B6, B12, and folic acid

You can also activate your osteoblasts to deposit and form new bone by engaging in weight-bearing exercise.

Bone Density​

Bone density is a measurement of the amount of calcium and other minerals found in your bones. Both osteopenia (low bone mass) and osteoporosis (brittle bones) are conditions characterized by low bone density.

• Eat more calcium(spread intake throughout the day)
  • Best to get from foods rather than supplements
  • Rich foods in calcium include milk, cheese, yoghurt, beans, sardines
• Increase to 1,300mg of calcium per day (1.3 grams)
• Weightlifting
  • Repairs and remodels bone tissue
  • Weight-bearing exercise has been shown to increase bone density and improve bone health. Weight-bearing exercise is physical activity we perform while on our feet and legs that works the muscles and bones against gravity. During weight-bearing activity, the muscles and tendons apply tension to the bones, which stimulates the bones to produce more bone tissue. Training the muscles in the face is a weight-bearing exercise but for the facial bones.
• More vitamin D (fatty fish, liver, and cheese; prioritize sunlight exposure) and K(two most common forms of vitamin K2 are MK-4 and MK-7. MK-4 exists in small amounts in liver, eggs, and meat)
  • Studies have shown that children and adults with low vitamin D levels tend to have lower bone density.
  • Vitamin K2 supports bone health by modifying osteocalcin, a protein involved in bone formation. This modification enables osteocalcin to bind to minerals in bones and helps prevent the loss of calcium from bones.
  • 20–50 micrograms of vitamin D per day (2000 IU)
  • 100–200 micrograms (mcg) of K2 MK-7 per day is ideal alongside vitamin D3.
• More vitamin C: Stimulates the production of bone-forming cells. In addition, some studies suggest that vitamin C’s antioxidant effects may protect bone cells from damage.
  • Rich sources include broccoli, Brussels sprouts, kale, cauliflower, and bell peppers, especially red bell peppers.
  • Plays a crucial role in maintaining bone density primarily through its contribution to collagen synthesis (used for structural support and integrity of connective tissues throughout the body, particularly in skin, bones, tendons, and ligaments).

How does one increase the rate of collagen synthesis?​

• Diet rich in protein (include lean meats, fish, eggs, and plant-based proteins like beans and legumes to provide the necessary building blocks for collagen synthesis.)

Additional Tips​

• Avoid low-calorie diets, which cause muscle mass loss and can also be harmful to bone health.
  • Studies have shown that diets providing fewer than 1,000 calories per day can lead to lower bone density in normal-weight, overweight, or obese individuals.
  • You need at least 1,200 calories per day.
• Eat foods rich in magnesium and zinc like nuts.
  • Magnesium helps vitamin D promote calcium absorption. Zinc exists in the bones. It promotes bone growth and helps prevent the bones from breaking down.

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Water/Sodium Retention​

You might be wondering why you look more attractive on some days more than others. Here’s the solution.


Water retention definition: Water retention, also known as Edema and fluid retention, is a buildup of fluid in the body. This can occur in cavities, tissues, and the circulatory system.

Causes​

• Fluid or water retention occurs when the body is unable to maintain fluid levels and leads to a puffy face in the morning. Lying down causes fluid to collect in a person’s face, but this typically disperses after they get up.
  • The lymphatic system carries lymph through the body. Lymph is a fluid that contains white blood cells. It helps the immune system defend the body against infection. As the lymphatic system delivers and reabsorbs lymphatic fluid, it also helps the body maintain fluid balance. If a problem prevents the lymphatic system from working properly, fluid can build up around the tissues. This is called lymphedema and can cause swelling in various parts of the body, including the abdomen, ankles, legs, and feet.
  • Eating certain foods high in sodium at night or in the evening may lead to extra puffiness in the morning. According to a 2017 article, this increase in sodium usually makes people thirsty, so they drink more. However, the body does not release this extra water through urine. Instead, the water collects in different areas, including the face.
    • High sodium foods include processed meats, such as bacon and pepperoni, salted chips, nachos, and pretzels, fast food, such as burgers and fries, and many premade frozen meals.

Solutions​

• Follow a low salt diet. Try to limit your intake of sodium to no more than 2,300 milligrams (mg) per day. This means avoiding ultra-processed and packaged foods and focusing your diet on whole foods. You can try adding spices instead of salt to flavor vegetables and lean proteins.
• Lymph is about 95% water, making water essential for its health. Stay hydrated by drinking half your weight in ounces of water a day. To calculate this, use the following formula: Water (liters) = (Weight in kg x 2.2) / (2 x 33.8). Without adequate water, lymphatic fluid cannot flow properly. And one of the most common causes of lymph congestion is dehydration. Only water can adequately rehydrate the body, but if you want to expedite the process, add lemon to your water. Lemon is an alkaline fruit that helps to mineralize the body and lymph. Try sipping on warm lemon water throughout the day; use a straw to protect your teeth’s enamel from the lemon.
• Dry brushing is a technique commonly utilized in Ayurveda for assisting in lymphatic flow and boosting circulation. Take a dry natural coarse bristled brush and brush the skin towards the heart. This stimulates the sweat glands, opens pores, and gets rid of dead skin cells while encouraging the movement of lymph and blood in underlying organs and tissues of the body, which helps clear built-up toxins. As a result, it can be beneficial in improving skin conditions and reducing cellulite.

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What’s Causing Your Face to Look Puffy?​

Bloating (Water/Sodium Retention)​

How to tell:

• You look puffier in the morning, especially around the eyes or cheeks.
• Your face changes size daily (some days sharp, other days round).
• You drink less water or eat salty/carby meals before bed → next morning: puffier.
• Press on your face and the skin feels squishy or pillowy, not dense.

Caused by:

• High salt, low water, low potassium.
• Too many simple carbs (white bread, noodles).
• Not enough sleep.

Fixes in 3–7 days:

• Drink more water.
• Eat spinach, bananas, sweet potatoes (high potassium).
• Cut down added salt and late meals.
• Cold showers/compresses help short-term too.

Fat (Body Fat in the Face)​

How to tell:

• It doesn’t change daily.
• You still look soft even after good sleep, hydration, and diet.
• When you smile, the cheek area has extra volume or jiggle.
• You have fat on other parts of the body too (lower belly, love handles).

Caused by:

• Too many calories overall (even from “healthy” foods).
• Not enough movement/sprinting/lifting.
• Genetics can play a small role.

Fix:

• Create a slight calorie deficit and engage in resistance training.
• Sprints help massively.
• Track protein: aim for 1.6–2g per kg of body weight.

Bone Structure (Lack of Prominence)​

How to tell:

• You’ve always had a soft or round look even when lean.
• Even when you’re fully dry/fasted, your cheekbones/jaw don’t cast shadows.
• When you flex your face (mew, cheek raise), it improves a lot.
• You look better with a controlled expression than relaxed (which means potential is there).

Caused by:

• Genetics, poor childhood posture, soft diet, mouth breathing.
• But it’s not fixed forever — with consistent tension and pressure (mewing, chewing, sprinting), it can change slowly (months to years).

Fix:

• Long-term consistent facial workouts.
• Sprinting (testosterone boost + bone response).
• Proper mewing and chewing with intensity.

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Hormonal Optimization​

Testosterone is essential for developing masculine features. When testosterone levels drop, they can lead to less defined cheekbones, a softer jawline, and reduced facial hair growth. These changes often result in a softer, less masculine appearance that may impact self-esteem.

How Low Testosterone Impacts Facial Features​

• Less defined cheekbones and jawline: Testosterone plays a vital role in maintaining bone density and muscle mass. So, when testosterone is low, you may notice a decrease in the prominence of cheekbones and jawline, causing the face to appear rounder and less angular.
• Shorter chin length: Research shows that testosterone significantly influences the development of the lower face, including the chin. Lower testosterone levels can result in a shorter or less prominent chin.
• Softer overall features: When testosterone levels are low, the combined effects of reduced bone density, decreased muscle mass, and slower facial hair growth can lead to softer features. This makes the overall appearance less angular and masculine.

How to Increase Testosterone​

• Diet: Your diet plays a significant role in hormone production. Foods rich in zinc, vitamin D, and healthy fats can help support testosterone levels. Include options like oysters, eggs, nuts, and mushrooms in your meals. These nutrient-dense foods provide the building blocks your body needs to produce testosterone naturally.
• Sleep well: Most of the body’s testosterone is made during sleep when a person experiences Rapid Eye Movement (REM). REM sleep is a deep sleep stage triggered by brain chemicals like acetylcholine and controlled by your body clock. It starts about 90 minutes after falling asleep and repeats in cycles during the night. The pons, a part of the brainstem, switches REM on and causes dreaming, eye movement, and temporary body paralysis. REM is important for memory, emotions, and brain function.
  • How can acetylcholine be increased? Eat foods that have choline present in them. These include beef liver, egg, chicken breast (roasted), kidney beans (canned), milk.
  • Research in animals and humans suggests that higher intakes of choline, a precursor to acetylcholine, may boost memory in people with memory issues.
• Exercise: A combination of aerobic (increase in heart rate) and resistance (weightlifting) training has been found to increase the production of testosterone. This also helps prevent the most common diseases that men are most likely to die from, heart disease, and cancer. Overtraining in endurance sports such as American football and weight-class wrestling and excessive exercise with calorie restriction can cause testosterone deficiency as well.
• Reduce stress: High stress leads to more cortisol (a steroid hormone made by your 2 adrenal glands, located on top of each kidney), which lowers testosterone.
• Boost vitamin D & K (explained before).
• No processed food.
• Sprinting: Short and intense sprinting (20 seconds) can spike testosterone levels.
  • This is because high-intensity exercise like sprinting stimulates the release of hormones like testosterone and human growth hormone (HGH), which can contribute to muscle growth and overall physical function. One study found that sprint training naturally increases both HGH and testosterone, with each sprint lasting 20 to 30 seconds.

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Skin​

What is Acne?​

Acne is a common skin condition where the pores of your skin clog. Pore blockages produce blackheads, whiteheads, and other types of pimples. Pimples are pus-filled, sometimes painful, bumps on your skin.

Causes​

• Hormonal changes: Androgens are hormones that increase in boys and girls during puberty and cause the sebaceous glands to enlarge and make more sebum (an oily substance that protects your skin from drying out). Hormone changes during midlife, particularly in women, can lead to breakouts too.
• Certain medications: Examples include drugs containing corticosteroids, testosterone, or lithium.
• Diet: Studies indicate that consuming certain foods — including carbohydrate-rich foods, such as bread, bagels, and chips — may worsen acne. Further study is needed to examine whether people with acne would benefit from following specific dietary restrictions.
• Stress: Stress doesn't cause acne, but if you have acne already, stress may make it worse.

How to Have Clear/Glowing Skin​

• Properly wash your face:
  
  • Pimples can appear anywhere on the skin, but they most often occur on the face. While the skin microbiome is complex, scientists have identified a bacteria called Propionibacterium acnes that can cause acne breakouts. This bacterium causes inflammation when it turns sebum, the oil found naturally on skin, into fatty acids.
  • Removing excess oil, dirt, and sweat daily can help prevent pimples – but washing your face too much may make acne worse. Exfoliation is also key to preventing dead skin cell build-up that can clog pores along with sebum. By using a facial exfoliator two to three times per week, you will remove the build-up of dead skin cells that can block pores and cause breakouts. Regular facials in a salon can also be used for powerful exfoliation. Look for facials that use beta hydroxy acid (BHA) to dissolve sebum build-up inside pores and enhance cell turnover.
  • “When we strip our skin of its natural sebum with excess washing, it actually causes the skin to produce even more oil in order to rebalance your skin,” says board-certified dermatologist Anar Mikailove, MD. “Thus, washing your face excessively can indeed make acne worse, as does using cleansers or astringents that dry out the skin too much.”
  • To wash your face:
    • Wet your face with warm (not hot) water.
    • Apply a mild cleanser in a gentle, circular motion using your fingers, not a washcloth (using a washcloth can cause friction and irritation if you're prone to skin conditions).
    • Rinse thoroughly.
    • Pat dry.
• Know your skin type: Knowing your skin type can help you determine which products to use and avoid. You can use the following parameters to identify your skin type:
  
  • Dry: Your skin often feels flaky and tight.
  • Oily: Your skin tends to look shiny by the end of the day.
  • Combination: You have both dry areas and oily areas. The oily area is usually the T-zone (the central area of your face), or your forehead, nose, and chin.
  • Sensitive: Your skin reacts easily to products and is prone to rashes, discoloration, or irritation. You can have sensitive skin along with any of the above skin types.
  • In general, people with oily skin are more prone to acne.
• Use a moisturizer: Moisturizers help skin stay hydrated, which makes a big difference for acne-prone skin. If your skin gets too dry, it will produce oil (sebum) to counterbalance the dryness. And, as noted above, an excess of sebum can cause pimples.
• Hydration: Hydration is a fundamental aspect of skin radiance. The stratum corneum contains natural moisturizing factors (NMFs) that maintain skin hydration. Ceramides, lipids, and amino acids are among the key components that contribute to the skin’s barrier function. Natural Moisturizing Factors (NMFs) are water-attracting substances that help the skin retain moisture, contributing to a plump and radiant appearance.
• Try not to touch your face: Touching your face can transfer bacteria — and those pore-clogging impurities — onto your skin.
• Avoid processed foods: Or at least try to avoid:
  
  • Processed foods
  • Dairy products
  • Alcohol
  • Refined sugars

Glowing Skin Info​

At the core of radiant skin lies its anatomy. The skin is composed of three primary layers: the epidermis, dermis, and subcutaneous tissue. The epidermis, the outermost layer, is where the magic of skin radiance begins.

• Epidermis: This thin but mighty layer is responsible for the skin’s color, tone, and texture. It comprises several sub-layers, with the outermost being the stratum corneum. The stratum corneum plays a pivotal role in skin radiance by providing a protective barrier and influencing light reflection.
• Collagen: A structural protein found in the dermis, is crucial for skin’s elasticity and youthful appearance. Over time, collagen production naturally declines with age and is driven by intrinsic factors (e.g., genetics, hormonal fluxes, and metabolic dysfunction), leading to wrinkles and sagging. Collagen production stimulates collagen synthesis through ingredients like retinoids, peptides, and vitamin C can help maintain skin’s firmness and radiance.
  
  • A study made on a supplement containing hydrolyzed collagen and vitamin C displayed improvement of skin appearance and fought the signs of aging (Study Link).
  • “Following 12 weeks daily use of the AC supplement, using confocal microscopy, we observed a significant 44.6% decrease in fragmentation vs. placebo (p < 0.01). We also measured a change in the ultrasound LEP (low echogenic pixel) ratio comparing upper and lower dermis (−9.24 vs. −7.83, respectively, p=0.05), suggesting collagen improvements occurred more in the upper dermal compartment. After 12 weeks vs. placebo, skin hydration was increased by 13.8% (p < 0.01), R2 elasticity index was increased by 22.7% (p<0.01), and Rz profilometry index was decreased by 19.6% (p < 0.01). Trichoscopy showed an average 11.0% improvement in scalp scaling and a 27.6% increase in the total number of hairs counted vs. placebo (p=n.s.). This was associated with a 31.9% increase in clinical grading score for hair healthy appearance (p < 0.01).”
  • Supplement link: California Gold Nutrition Hydrolyzed Collagen Peptides
• Sunbathe more and get a tan: Which is considered attractive because scientifically, a tan/darker skin exaggerates contrast and emphasizes definition.

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Eye Area​

Although having good bone mass, high testosterone, and good facial muscle definition, applying Volufiline to the lower eye area can enhance the eyes due to its ability to increase adipose (fat) tissue volume where applied. When used under the eyes, Volufiline can help improve the support for the lower eyelid, reducing the appearance of hollows and dark circles. This enhancement complements the structural benefits achieved through mewing by providing additional soft tissue volume, which contributes to a more rejuvenated look.


Good eyes are caused by cheekbones and a positive canthal tilt.

The Eye Canthal Tilt​

The eye canthal tilt is the angle between the internal corner of the eyes (medial canthus) and the external corner of the eyes (lateral canthus). This tilt is a crucial section of periorbital aesthetics.

• The eye canthal tilt can be negative, neutral, or positive. The canthus tilt is considered positive if the medial canthus angle ranges between 5 and 8 degrees below the lateral canthus. A negative canthal tilt is achieved when the medial canthus tilt varies between -5 to -8 degrees beneath the lateral canthus. A neutral tilt is when the medial canthus and lateral canthus are in line. A positive canthal tilt gives one a more attractive, sharper, and younger look.
• However, the best ways to naturally improve the eye area are by increasing the bone mass and ensuring that the facial bones grow in the correct direction.

Additional Tips​

• Practice proper expression: Having a proper expression can make a big change to one’s appearance, including improving their canthal tilt.
• Combining the chin-tucking method with 'thumb pulling': May help apply upward pressure to the maxilla, which some believe supports midface development and a more defined eye area (often called 'hunter eyes').
• Grow and shape eyebrows: Eyebrows serve as essential elements which frame the eyes while making the eye area appear more mature. The hunter eye look requires thick dark eyebrows that are tilted upward for maximum effect. Thus, people who need help with thick eyebrows should consider both microblading eyebrows and using castor oil or emu oil. Also, shaping eyebrows can help you with the hunter eye look. The right shape of your eyebrows is also really important, and your eyes would appear much sharper if you slightly cut off the edges of your brows. Thus, such proper growing and shaping your eyebrows can gradually help you get the hunter eyes you are dreaming of.
• Brow Bone Prominence: Hunter eyes often accompany a prominent brow bone, adding protection and defining the upper eye area.
• Always keep the eyebrow and forehead relaxed: To prevent a surprised look.
• Fat reduction: Debloat (water/sodium retention) and reduce the puffiness around eyes.

 

[Prince]

I'm not downloading any random PDF, and I'd recommend everyone else not to.
Just paste it onto the forum, it's too sketchy downloading PDFs.

 

[lmrz.]

I'm not downloading any random PDF, and I'd recommend everyone else not to.
Just paste it onto the forum, it's too sketchy downloading PDFs.

fairs imma fix that rn

 

[zombiebeatz2006]

great thread

 

[ela67]

I think I am a mix between bloat and lack of proeminence.
The weird thing about bloat is that I drink a lot of water, don't like salty foods and sleep enough. I just eat a lot of sugar but that shouldn't cause bloat.

 

[lmrz.]

I think I am a mix between bloat and lack of proeminence.
The weird thing about bloat is that I drink a lot of water, don't like salty foods and sleep enough. I just eat a lot of sugar but that shouldn't cause bloat.

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u look good (6-7 outta 10 and have a rlly good eye area), u could try dropping to around 10% body fat, which could help w the 'bloating'

 

[AuggyDauggy]

6-7

Six seven?

 

[lmrz.]

Six seven?

ye, shows good symmetry, good eye area, only problem is body fat percentage and skin quality. good potential

 

[AuggyDauggy]

ye, shows good symmetry, good eye area, only problem is body fat percentage and skin quality. good potential

Six seven

 

[lmrz.]

Six seven

no

 

[ela67]

u look good (6-7 outta 10 and have a rlly good eye area), u could try dropping to around 10% body fat, which could help w the 'bloating'

well...if you mean 6-7 by looksmax standard, then it is quite decent but if you mean that by irl perception then I am cooked

 

[kalashn1kov]

I think I am a mix between bloat and lack of proeminence.
The weird thing about bloat is that I drink a lot of water, don't like salty foods and sleep enough. I just eat a lot of sugar but that shouldn't cause bloat.

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ur weird looking in pics and cute in motion

 

[ela67]

ur weird looking in pics and cute in motion

unphotogenic pill