Discussion Should Wives submit to their husbands?

[Whitepill]

Then who is it not over for?

People who don’t hold any beliefs about the world around them

 

[Preston_Real]

Yes complete submission.

 

[sigma]

You are making my argument seem extreme, then you are shutting down the the extreme argument. Strawman refers to purposely making the othersides argument seem bad and then shutting down the argument you made up

i am writing about the implications of submission
while you did not say allat about how women are inferior, submission does imply inferiority and everything in favor of the man

 

[N30N]

ye
i just dont see how a biased manmade book is the answer for everything, ppl should come to original conclusions and see everyone as humans

The book does not answer everything, and yes of course it's man made. Yes, we should all see each other as humans, just because certain things are present in the Bible doesn't mean we are permitted to live them out.

 

[sigma]

The book does not answer everything, and yes of course it's man made. Yes, we should all see each other as humans, just because certain things are present in the Bible doesn't mean we are permitted to lube them out.

Ye
I just dont understand how placing the pressure of and making a woman submit is a way of treating her humanely

 

[Slicer]

The book does not answer everything, and yes of course it's man made. Yes, we should all see each other as humans, just because certain things are present in the Bible doesn't mean we are permitted to lube them out.

It does answer everything pertaining to life and godliness, but not like math equations and stuff. And the Bible was written by men, but they were inspired by the Holy Spirit

 

[N30N]

Ye
I just dont understand how placing the pressure of and making a woman submit is a way of treating her humanely

It's about trust and respect. Wives should hold the same respect they have for Christ for their husband.

 

[sigma]

The book does not answer everything, and yes of course it's man made. Yes, we should all see each other as humans, just because certain things are present in the Bible doesn't mean we are permitted to live them out.

also how do you determine what can be done and what cant, since you say we arent permitted to live them out
bc there are different interpretations across all religions for what is permisible

 

[N30N]

It's about trust and respect. Wives should hold the same respect they have for Christ for their husband.

This includes listening to authority, understanding, and trusting. Don't get me wrong. I am not a closed minded individual, I just have beliefs I lean towards.

 

[sigma]

It's about trust and respect. Wives should hold the same respect they have for Christ for their husband.

so why cant a husband have mutual trust and respect in his wife
not only do i see disadvantageous to the wife, but also to the husband
he has the pressure to be a strong leader who is always able to provide while the woman is to submit and not do anything about it
both parties' feelings are discarded just cuz socieity says to

 

[N30N]

so why cant a husband have mutual trust and respect in his wife
not only do i see disadvantageous to the wife, but also to the husband
he has the pressure to be a strong leader who is always able to provide while the woman is to submit and not do anything about it
both parties' feelings are discarded just cuz socieity says to

Men should not be strong leaders?

 

[Slicer]

i am writing about the implications of submission
while you did not say allat about how women are inferior, submission does imply inferiority and everything in favor of the man

The Bible does not allow for abuse of this principle, because it also says husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church, so when husbands are loving their wives and wives are submitting to their husbands, that is when a good family dynamic occurs

 

[Preston_Real]

i am writing about the implications of submission
while you did not say allat about how women are inferior, submission does imply inferiority and everything in favor of the man

Women can't really independent. The strong independent woman in most cases only ends up in financial emotional and emotional problems. Women like being lead and don't like to think too much about their decisions. They generally do what everyone does. If a wife submits to the husband he gets to make the decisions of the household.

 

[sigma]

Men should not be strong leaders?

i think both men and women rely on each other and should be mutually respectful and helping and loving of each other, nobody inferior and ignored and nobody superior

The Bible does not allow for abuse of this principle, because it also says husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church, so when husbands are loving their wives and wives are submitting to their husbands, that is when a good family dynamic occurs

family dynamics are not black and white

Women can't really independent. The strong independent woman in most cases only ends up in financial emotional and emotional problems. Women like being lead and don't like to think too much about their decisions. They generally do what everyone does. If a wife submits to the husband he gets to make the decisions of the household.

i dont think it should be black white
the woman should not be superior nor inferior and either the husband
both equal

 

[Slicer]

i think both men and women rely on each other and should be mutually respectful and helping and loving of each other, nobody inferior and ignored and nobody superior

family dynamics are not black and white

i dont think it should be black white
the woman should not be superior nor inferior and either the husband
both equal

Equal in value, but different roles.

 

[sigma]

Equal in value, but different roles.

roles should not be black and white and decided by others
only roles that can fluctuate and decided by the couple themselves and their own needs and towards the relationship

 

[Slicer]

roles should not be black and white and decided by others
only roles that can fluctuate and decided by the couple themselves and their own needs and towards the relationship

Didn't know this topic was so controversial lol
Edit: jk I did

 

[N30N]

i think both men and women rely on each other and should be mutually respectful and helping and loving of each other, nobody inferior and ignored and nobody superior

Yes, but in different ways. Men should be physically stronger, and capable leaders that can provide protection to their woman and family, and this should be undisputed. Nobody is inferior, but we are different, and with those differences comes different roles and expectations.

 

[sigma]

Yes, but in different ways. Men should be physically stronger, and capable leaders that can provide protection to their woman and family, and this should be undisputed. Nobody is inferior, but we are different, and with those differences comes different roles and expectations.

yes
when a woman needs to be defended she may require the assistance of her husband
additionally labor intensive jobs around the house may be fulfilled by him, like carrying furniture
but i also believe in teamwork and cooperation, and that strength does not put someone below someone else
sometimes the man needs the woman's help to carry the mattress upstairs
we have to help and love each other
while biology may set us apart, society should not

 

[cake]

I just can't respect anyone without ambitions or their own will
I would be disgusted by some slave cuck bitch

 

[sigma]

I just can't respect anyone without ambitions or their own will
I would be disgusted by some slave cuck bitch

if u arent a larping dalit
kiss me :3

 

[N30N]

yes
when a woman needs to be defended she may require the assistance of her husband
additionally labor intensive jobs around the house may be fulfilled by him, like carrying furniture
but i also believe in teamwork and cooperation, and that strength does not put someone below someone else
sometimes the man needs the woman's help to carry the mattress upstairs
we have to help and love each other
while biology may set us apart, society should not

Biology dictates society.

 

[sigma]

Biology dictates society.

jews????

jk

humans always want to be in power
ruler to subject, boss to worker, parent to child, sibling to younger sibling, husband to wife
its about control

 

[cake]

if u arent a larping dalit
kiss me :3

 

[Slicer]

I just can't respect anyone without ambitions or their own will
I would be disgusted by some slave cuck bitch

Strawman once again

 

[sigma]

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[choripan]

75 replies in 20 minutes whatba debate you created

 

[James Othy]

It’s a bond, a balance. It depends. Making her a slave isn’t necessarily the best option but having her do whatever isn’t the best option either

Yes, but equality simply cannot exist in that type of relationship. Someone is going to have to be superior in authority. A woman who is subjective to her husband does not mean a woman who is a slave.

My wife is to obey me in all things, and I'll have that obedience by any means, but that doesn't mean I'm constantly ordering her around all day. I'm cool as long as she's got the kid in bed by 10 and doesn't fuck with me when I'm taking a nap or sleeping unless it's an emergency. She's in charge of all the domestic chores. I work to feed/shelter us and take care of fixing broken shit around the house while she cooks and does all the domestic chores.

If there's an emergency or an opportunity she's to give me no grief. Example, if I were to tell her we're moving across the country tomorrow she would immediately get to helping me pack within 5 minutes of me telling her. No arguing about it or compelling me to over explain my decision.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

yes, if you have a good man you will submit to him that’s just nature ngl

Another based take from @pompompurino

But yes even before marriage, if a woman has found a high quality guy in looks, sex, personality, they tend to unconsciously submit to that guy.