JFL Sneako questions Mohammed marrying 9 yo girl

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

This whole religion is just so brutal I’m sorry even tho I met some cool ppl who claim to be Muslim I can’t take them seriously cause they either ignore 90% of the book and just willingly commit sin every day or they are larping as “moderate”



To be a Muslim and fit in the west ur either an atheist basically kinda like those Christians who say they are religious but don’t even know any miracle Jesus ever made or ur just larping to fit in until u can explode

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

And the ppl I notice who hate Muslims the most are ex Muslims because they know exactly the type of shit in that book and they know 90% of it is pure brutality

 

[FoidAnnhilator]

And the ppl I notice who hate Muslims the most are ex Muslims because they know exactly the type of shit in that book and they know 90% of it is pure brutality

apparently you get to have 72 virgin foids once in heaven


sounds pretty cool

 

[zaycism]

And the ppl I notice who hate Muslims the most are ex Muslims because they know exactly the type of shit in that book and they know 90% of it is pure brutality

exactly, the more you study the religion the more you hate it

 

[ChudTheFourth]

You think you're the first person to bring up this topic? this exact subject has been brought up thousands of times by people questioning Islam. It has been addressed many times yet you keep asking the question instead of simply looking up qualified scholars who have addressed it. Do you not know how to use youtube? You're applying modernism to something that happened a long time ago. Also, there are some scholars who claim Aisha R.A was a teenager who had hit puberty aswell before the marriage was consummated. If you are genuinely interested in knowing the answer then youtube and see the response from well known and established scholars.

 

[ChudTheFourth]

exactly, the more you study the religion the more you hate it

Quite the opposite friendo. There's a reason most advanced scientists or ones really up in the field are religious and believe in God.

 

[FoidAnnhilator]

You think you're the first person to bring up this topic? this exact subject has been brought up thousands of times by people questioning Islam. It has been addressed many times yet you keep asking the question instead of simply looking up qualified scholars who have addressed it. Do you not know how to use youtube? You're applying modernism to something that happened a long time ago. Also, there are some scholars who claim Aisha R.A was a teenager who had hit puberty aswell before the marriage was consummated. If you are genuinely interested in knowing the answer then youtube and see the response from well known and established scholars.

I wouldn't take discussions on religion and or politics here too seriously, there is not much point in it


Nobody's mind will be changed

 

[lotuus]

If sneako questions it, I question it.

He’s deadass a modern day philosopher

 

[ChudTheFourth]

apparently you get to have 72 virgin foids once in heaven


sounds pretty cool

You get to have Hoor (or Hoor al-Ayn) which are heavenly companions created by God, they are pure and more beautiful than any woman on earth. You can also make them look like whoever you want, that's the point of paradise, you get whatever you want.

 

[Angel]

is he steamer?

 

[ChudTheFourth]

And the ppl I notice who hate Muslims the most are ex Muslims because they know exactly the type of shit in that book and they know 90% of it is pure brutality

That's not entirely true. I have gone deep into the so called "ex-muslim" communities and most of them are actually were never muslim and instead were found to be Indian Hindus trying to give muslims a bad name due to their nationalistic propaganda and Israelis/Jews who have the same goal. Also, keep in mind that most muslims now do not care if you leave Islam, but it's just odd that you base your entire personality on being an "ex-muslim", why don't you go live your life instead of trying to dunk on Islam? it's pathetic.

 

[Recai]

she was actually 6 when they married do your research right

 

[ChudTheFourth]

she was actually 6 when they married do your research right

Some scholars claim she was 9 and marriage was consummated later, marriage in those times was done for many reasons, safety, etc. The marriage cannot be consummated before the girl has hit puberty, that is a fundamental rule in Islam.

 

[Recai]

The marriage cannot be consummated before the girl has hit puberty

where did you hear this

im muslim btw

 

[leea]

You think you're the first person to bring up this topic? this exact subject has been brought up thousands of times by people questioning Islam. It has been addressed many times yet you keep asking the question instead of simply looking up qualified scholars who have addressed it. Do you not know how to use youtube? You're applying modernism to something that happened a long time ago. Also, there are some scholars who claim Aisha R.A was a teenager who had hit puberty aswell before the marriage was consummated. If you are genuinely interested in knowing the answer then youtube and see the response from well known and established scholars.

Islam encourages child marriage btw

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

That's not entirely true. I have gone deep into the so called "ex-muslim" communities and most of them are actually were never muslim and instead were found to be Indian Hindus trying to give muslims a bad name due to their nationalistic propaganda and Israelis/Jews who have the same goal. Also, keep in mind that most muslims now do not care if you leave Islam, but it's just odd that you base your entire personality on being an "ex-muslim", why don't you go live your life instead of trying to dunk on Islam? it's pathetic.

I heard this so called “Jewish” propaganda argument so much I decided to actually read a couple parts of the book and it is what made me automatically not trust any Muslim

It’s not like the bible where u have 100s of pages of good teachings then u might argue hmm the sin of being gay part is bad

In the Quran you’d have to ignore most of it to actually fit in and at the same time if ur ignoring it, it also says it’s okay if ur under threat from non believers but as soon as u outnumber them u force sharia law onto them

So it’s basically impossible to take these guys seriously even if they seem liberal and cool

 

[ChudTheFourth]

Islam encourages child marriage btw

100% FALSE. Paedophilia has the death sentence as does r**e. It's not permissible to marry anyone who has not hit puberty, this is a strict rule and such a person cannot be "given" aka their hand in marriage without the approval of a guardian who is usually her father.

 

[ChudTheFourth]

where did you hear this

im muslim btw

You are a muslim? somehow i doubt that if you don't even know such a basic thing, you didn't actually think it was allowed to marry and consummate marriage with a girl who hasn't hit puberty did you?

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

she was actually 6 when they married do your research right

Oh yeah I forgot he had the decency to wait to fuck her at 9

 

[leea]

100% FALSE. Paedophilia has the death sentence as does r**e. It's not permissible to marry anyone who has not hit puberty, this is a strict rule and such a person cannot be "given" aka their hand in marriage without the approval of a guardian who is usually her father.

From your book btw: ", then their waiting period is 3 months and also for those who have not yet menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth."

 

[leea]

From your book btw: ", ...and also for those who have not yet menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth."

So basically a prebuscent girl's wait after DIVORCE is 3 months

 

[ChudTheFourth]

I heard this so called “Jewish” propaganda argument so much I decided to actually read a couple parts of the book and it is what made me automatically not trust any Muslim

It’s not like the bible where u have 100s of pages of good teachings then u might argue hmm the sin of being gay part is bad

In the Quran you’d have to ignore most of it to actually fit in and at the same time if ur ignoring it, it also says it’s okay if ur under threat from non believers but as soon as u outnumber them u force sharia law onto them

So it’s basically impossible to take these guys seriously even if they seem liberal and cool

It's not propaganda just because you don't want it to be the truth. Indian hindus and jews regularly run psyops/propaganda to harm the reputation of muslims, this is a fact and everyone knows the abrahamic religions + hinduism are at "war" with each other.
You don't have to ignore most of it though, tens of millions of muslims live in the west and practice their faith without issue. Now if you're referring to muslims not "Integrating" in the sense that they don't drink, eat pork and do degenerate activities then yes, they will not integrate in such a way because it directly conflicts with their faith. "Threat" in this case being the risk of death which logically makes sense doesn't it?
You can think what you like.

 

[ChudTheFourth]

So basically a prebuscent girl's wait after DIVORCE is 3 months

You cannot marry them.

 

[ChudTheFourth]

From your book btw: ", then their waiting period is 3 months and also for those who have not yet menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth."

Incorrect. Post the link to the source.

 

[leea]

The verse (Qur'an 65:4) is describing the ʿiddah (waiting period) that a woman must observe after a divorce before she can remarry. It says:
Women who have not yet menstruated: their waiting period is also three months.
Pregnant women: their waiting period lasts until they give birth.
The phrase "those who have not yet menstruated" is the part that has been debated.
Classical Islamic scholars generally interpreted it as referring to girls who had not yet reached puberty but had been married and divorced, so they concluded the verse acknowledges such cases.

 

[leea]

The verse (Qur'an 65:4) is describing the ʿiddah (waiting period) that a woman must observe after a divorce before she can remarry. It says:
Women who have not yet menstruated: their waiting period is also three months.
Pregnant women: their waiting period lasts until they give birth.
The phrase "those who have not yet menstruated" is the part that has been debated.
Classical Islamic scholars generally interpreted it as referring to girls who had not yet reached puberty but had been married and divorced, so they concluded the verse acknowledges such cases.

Explain?

 

[ChudTheFourth]

The verse (Qur'an 65:4) is describing the ʿiddah (waiting period) that a woman must observe after a divorce before she can remarry. It says:
Women who have not yet menstruated: their waiting period is also three months.
Pregnant women: their waiting period lasts until they give birth.
The phrase "those who have not yet menstruated" is the part that has been debated.
Classical Islamic scholars generally interpreted it as referring to girls who had not yet reached puberty but had been married and divorced, so they concluded the verse acknowledges such cases.

The mensturation refers to a married woman who is in the divorce process aka 3 months (iddah) to ensure she is not pregnant because the divorce legislation is different for pregnant women and it is highly discouraged to divorce in this case, usually the imam will ensure the man compromises and stays with her.

 

[Br4va]

Yo why are you geniunnlet such a goated user ?

I’ve noticed Muslims always acting weird too. I’ve only ever met one Muslim irl and he would always curse , act gay , and talk about really inappropriate topics (we were in 7th grade btw)

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

It's not propaganda just because you don't want it to be the truth. Indian hindus and jews regularly run psyops/propaganda to harm the reputation of muslims, this is a fact and everyone knows the abrahamic religions + hinduism are at "war" with each other.
You don't have to ignore most of it though, tens of millions of muslims live in the west and practice their faith without issue. Now if you're referring to muslims not "Integrating" in the sense that they don't drink, eat pork and do degenerate activities then yes, they will not integrate in such a way because it directly conflicts with their faith. "Threat" in this case being the risk of death which logically makes sense doesn't it?
You can think what you like.

n***a u don’t have to fall for propaganda online to notice how aggressive these n*****s are if u live in Germany like I do and commute on trains daily ur bound to run into one of these n*****s chanting terrorist shit or being aggressive in the name of Allah

Even if it’s the minority when u have a book that can turn some ppl into radicals it’s not worth reading atp

 

[ChudTheFourth]

The verse (Qur'an 65:4) is describing the ʿiddah (waiting period) that a woman must observe after a divorce before she can remarry. It says:
Women who have not yet menstruated: their waiting period is also three months.
Pregnant women: their waiting period lasts until they give birth.
The phrase "those who have not yet menstruated" is the part that has been debated.
Classical Islamic scholars generally interpreted it as referring to girls who had not yet reached puberty but had been married and divorced, so they concluded the verse acknowledges such cases.

Point me in the direction to scholars who claim it is allowed to consummate marriage with a girl who hasn't hit puberty?

 

[Mystericus]

Allah here - you're going to hell, it's all a troll, good luck

 

[ChudTheFourth]

n***a u don’t have to fall for propaganda online to notice how aggressive these n*****s are if u live in Germany like I do and commute on trains daily ur bound to run into one of these n*****s chanting terrorist shit or being aggressive in the name of Allah

Even if it’s the minority when u have a book that can turn some ppl into radicals it’s not worth reading atp

Germany mostly has a Turkish muslim population, turks are a complicated bunch, some are religious and others just larp as cultural muslims and still drink and be degenerate. I don't live in Germany so i can't speak to what you see on the metro. Extremism/radicalism is mostly a thing of the past.

 

[leea]

They do btw

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

n***a u don’t have to fall for propaganda online to notice how aggressive these n*****s are if u live in Germany like I do and commute on trains daily ur bound to run into one of these n*****s chanting terrorist shit or being aggressive in the name of Allah

Even if it’s the minority when u have a book that can turn some ppl into radicals it’s not worth reading atp

In my opinion in a country where ppl are supposed to be free not being able to insult a profit or burn a book without some fools stabbing u should be reason enough to hate them

Jews aren’t the ones making them do this at the end of the day freedom of speech is important there is nothing u can forcefully restrict especially from a foreign religion in a country that they are seeking refuge in

 

[leea]

The mensturation refers to a married woman who is in the divorce process aka 3 months (iddah) to ensure she is not pregnant because the divorce legislation is different for pregnant women and it is highly discouraged to divorce in this case, usually the imam will ensure the man compromises and stays with her.

For a normal married woman: 3 menstrual cycles
For a child : 3months (becquse they cant count by cycle)
For a pregnant woman : after giving birth
Why would they include a child in a divorce issue?

 

[ChudTheFourth]

For a normal married woman: 3 menstrual cycles
For a child : 3months (becquse they cant count by cycle)
For a pregnant woman : after giving birth
Why would they include a child in a divorce issue?

Where is "child" included when it comes to the subject of divorce? would a 14 year old who has hit puberty still be considered a child in those times?

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

Germany mostly has a Turkish muslim population, turks are a complicated bunch, some are religious and others just larp as cultural muslims and still drink and be degenerate. I don't live in Germany so i can't speak to what you see on the metro. Extremism/radicalism is mostly a thing of the past.

This is the argument I always hear oh it’s just the people from these and these countries bro atp ion trust any of them

U don’t see Christian’s saying oh no “but the Christian’s from America are the bad ones” it’s only with Muslims there’s always some country that is the example of all the bad ppl

And I think the kids were from Afghanistan since they said something about it

 

[ChudTheFourth]

In my opinion in a country where ppl are supposed to be free not being able to insult a profit or burn a book without some fools stabbing u should be reason enough to hate them

Jews aren’t the ones making them do this at the end of the day freedom of speech is important there is nothing u can forcefully restrict especially from a foreign religion in a country that they are seeking refuge in

Why is it not acceptable in your mind for everyone to be able to practice their religion without hatred from others? a free country does not mean you go out of your way to provoke and insult anothers faith, that is how racism, hate crimes, etc occurs and degrades the overall health of society. Russia for example will not allow you to insult any religion/faith, the same can be said for America but free speech is a complicated issue there.

 

[ChudTheFourth]

This is the argument I always hear oh it’s just the people from these and these countries bro atp ion trust any of them

U don’t see Christian’s saying oh no “but the Christian’s from America are the bad ones” it’s only with Muslims there’s always some country that is the example of all the bad ppl

And I think the kids were from Afghanistan since they said something about it

Christianity is a dying religion, England is supposed to be a Christian country but the churches have been empty for decades, English people regularly engage in degeneracy. It's not about saying these types of muslims are bad and these aren't, but one common issue is that people like you love to generalize 2 billion muslims for the actions of a tiny tiny % who do wrong.

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

Why is it not acceptable in your mind for everyone to be able to practice their religion without hatred from others? a free country does not mean you go out of your way to provoke and insult anothers faith, that is how racism, hate crimes, etc occurs and degrades the overall health of society. Russia for example will not allow you to insult any religion/faith, the same can be said for America but free speech is a complicated issue there.

Because at the end of the day all they do is cause problems

They have their shitholes to go back to if they ever miss home what is someone from Europe supposed to do when they are indigenous to this land and it’s being visibly replaced by ppl who want to kill them and impose stupid rules on them

 

[ChudTheFourth]

Btw nobody respects this "sheikh" aka assim al hakeem, he has been greatly criticized by muslims for saying bullshit responses like this. He's a fraud. He has like 6 daughters and no sons so is completely bias and his responses often are on the line of being feminist.

 

[ChudTheFourth]

Because at the end of the day all they do is cause problems

They have their shitholes to go back to if they ever miss home what is someone from Europe supposed to do when they are indigenous to this land and it’s being visibly replaced by ppl who want to kill them and impose stupid rules on them

You see, you're generalizing. A very small % cause problems and you're saying they all do when it's not true and you know it. Yes i can agree natives in Europe don't want to be "replaced" but that is the fault of your leaders, you are redirecting your anger at the wrong people. You are angry about people from the 3rd world coming to the west in hope of a better life when you should be angry towards your PM's, kings, presidents and government elected officials who have opened the floodgates and allowed uncontrolled unrestricted immigration.

 

[Recai]

You are a muslim? somehow i doubt that if you don't even know such a basic thing, you didn't actually think it was allowed to marry and consummate marriage with a girl who hasn't hit puberty did you?

what is your source

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

You see, you're generalizing. A very small % cause problems and you're saying they all do when it's not true and you know it. Yes i can agree natives in Europe don't want to be "replaced" but that is the fault of your leaders, you are redirecting your anger at the wrong people. You are angry about people from the 3rd world coming to the west in hope of a better life when you should be angry towards your PM's, kings, presidents and government elected officials who have opened the floodgates and allowed uncontrolled unrestricted immigration.

n***a even if none of them caused any problems how would feel if u were chilling on ur desert country just for a bunch of Europeans to show up start installing churches with church bells to play loud even tho ur country is Muslim

And if u complain ur own police comes and arrests u for daring to dislike random Christians flooding ur country in mass trying to implement feminism and saying ur racist

Not to mention when u leave at 3pm on a week day all u see are white ppl walking around doing fuck all living on welfare while the desert n*****s are working to pay for them