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Was struggling with the title but it is whatever
I will rely on science for this, including behavioral ecology
This is just an observation, not a guide.

The Fisherian Runaway Effect/Ornamentation
This thread by @Nihilus sums it up pretty well: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/thre...ale-of-ostentatious-ornaments-must-read.9184/
To sum it up if you didn't want to read it: Fisherian runaway is a theory explaining how female preference can drive the evolution of extreme male traits, like peacock tails. These traits may seem impractical, but females preferring them creates a loop where the traits become more and more common + desirable.
How can you utilize this? Good skin is arguably related to this effect. In nature, it is not likely you will find a person with perfect, smooth skin. People are very attracted to this trait, and some can say that it correlates to good genes and youth. Additionally, having a lot of muscle. In nature, long ago, men were very athletic, they ran a lot, fought, and built homes. But they did not have the same body standards as men have now. V taper with <12% bf is around ideal today. Some genetic features, such as blue/green eyes, blond hair, freckles, heterochromia (especially central), long lashes or multiple rows (distichiasis), and birthmarks and beauty marks (depends) are considered beautiful as well.

Polygamy as a Motivator:
Occurs in species that are sexually dimorphic (usually). An individual of one sex mates with several individuals of the other sex.
Polygyny: One male with many females (most common). Males are usually very showy and bigger than females.
Polyandry: One female mates with many males (rare). Female is more showy.
Polygyny is also more common in human societies. My point here is not that you need to be in a polygamous relationship, but that males need to be showy and bigger than females to attract mates. Having many women requires good economic and social status. "Oh, but I'm monogamous!" Always set your standards farther than what you want. You want to get a 90 in your math class? It seems realistic, but if you increase your self expectations, say get 100 instead, you can achieve more. Act like you have to work hard to gain multiple women, even though you will most likely only date one. This will also mean you will have more options.



Female offspring selecting for ornaments of male parents in future mates.
_1DWQEmR__VNd_u2SNRcurC9ALh8YlKg_lCJNHdUkt8jaqH6ZsZVHw_IvZSO_016De9qYla4T8Z5TD9jpXM5roG8dW4lOxZLzbosRrSXGht6uobQ7DNQ1IBWl7JPB_H4SsXYH2x9swk8DKtGfhEEPzHVbAAIm9QD=nw

In this experiment, birds were bred. The ornament here is artificial, so there is no genetic factor correlated to the attraction. The female progeny of the males that were ornamented now has preferences for it as an adult. But when the mother is ornamented and the father is never ornamented, there is no attraction. Thus, females are attracted to traits similar to male family members.



Why men spend more time with women prior to having children.

Males of different species want to be sure that the offspring is theirs. Otherwise, he is cucked and does not want to waste resources on an offspring that does not have his genetic material. Males can assure this better by forming a bond with a female, securing the relationship and spending a lot of time with her, even stopping her from being around other men so that there is no potential of a bastard child. There is also less likely to be paternal care in less assured relationships. In humans, people usually befriend each other, then date, then marry, and then have kids. It is a long and tedious process to secure a woman and have a higher chance of a legitimate offspring. It is natural as humans that we do this. Thus, you must secure a solid relationship with a woman before you two have sex and now you have to pay child support for a kid you aren't even sure is yours. Women also like men who are nurturing and can provide. You can show off these traits during the courting process, thus solidifying your chances. (We as humans have the ultimate goal of reproduction and ensuring the survival of ourselves but more importantly the next generation, which is why I added this section.)



Mate-choice Copying:
4YbruyrcM4B4qXzE_0jVPmpa7IWG5nm_psj3Ax0g3f1MFv8F3zfoLATSYS9HOdqYqt_6Qa-WivaVI2leapQQAWesAk0vHgLQboPhS6MsS2prJemFv8GtJ7PrxqpsuHuSLUyUEMwyPvfA-PEBxFblx1vjSTt7EfJk=nw

Here, the female gupppies are not attracted to the lighter male. But when a decoy female is shown giving attention to the lighter male, suddenly the other females guppies are interested. Basically, they will copy the mate choice of another. Thus, garner interest and social relationships with people of both sexes. Tbh, I don't have this sort of thing, and it will likely be difficult. But if you have some kind of social support from females, you don't even have to be friends with them (like a fanbase), then other females will take notice.












Male Competition for Mates/Intrasexual Selection
Everyone knows this, so I will not waste time on explaining it. Some examples of competition in humans would be economical, social, intelligence wise, physical, generosity, and power. 1714601191005.png

Game Theory
These are side blotched lizards. They are often used as an example of game theory in reproductive success of animals "rock, paper, scissor" example. Basically, each has an advantage and a disadvantage. Their colors are orange, blue, and yellow. The orange ones are aggressive, and have a lot of territory and females. The blue ones are not as aggressive, have smaller territory and less females. The yellow ones pretend to be females, and sneak into the orange lizards territory (usually, rarely they go to blue). There, the yellow ones blend in and mate with the other females. Eventually, there will be a noticeable amount of yellow progeny compared to orange in that territory. All of these lizards have their sucesses. The lesson is that you need to learn to use your cards to your advantage. The orange ones were born with easy success, as humans we would call these the genetic lottery chads. The blue ones are more humble, like average guys that worked hard but are not good enough to have the same power as orange (brutal blackpill). The yellow ones are trannies, femboys, and soft low T men that use manipulation to secure a mate. Most likely, you are between blue and yellow. Not good enough to make your own territory and females but good enough to use other strategies. Use game theory, use strategies. All of these strategies are dependent to each other, like rock paper scissors. We are all side blotched lizards. And your girlfriend's gay bestfriend will cuck you.

This is the yap session everyone gets today

@allexxs @RAJ GHRANDHICK @sexlesstosexles @Nihilus @VisageVirtuoso√ @AstroSky idk who else sorry i have shit memory am not being mean if i did not include you
 
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the female gupppies are not attracted to the lighter male. But when a decoy female is shown giving attention to the lighter male, suddenly the other females guppies are interested.
cant beilive this is true, its like how they said female are more attracted to u when u have a girlfriend

dk who else sorry i have shit memory am not being mean if i did not include you
:pensivecold:
 
Was struggling with the title but it is whatever
I will rely on science for this, including behavioral ecology
This is just an observation, not a guide.

The Fisherian Runaway Effect/Ornamentation
This thread by @Nihilus sums it up pretty well: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/thre...ale-of-ostentatious-ornaments-must-read.9184/
To sum it up if you didn't want to read it: Fisherian runaway is a theory explaining how female preference can drive the evolution of extreme male traits, like peacock tails. These traits may seem impractical, but females preferring them creates a loop where the traits become more and more common + desirable.
How can you utilize this? Good skin is arguably related to this effect. In nature, it is not likely you will find a person with perfect, smooth skin. People are very attracted to this trait, and some can say that it correlates to good genes and youth. Additionally, having a lot of muscle. In nature, long ago, men were very athletic, they ran a lot, fought, and built homes. But they did not have the same body standards as men have now. V taper with <12% bf is around ideal today. Some genetic features, such as blue/green eyes, blond hair, freckles, heterochromia (especially central), long lashes or multiple rows (distichiasis), and birthmarks and beauty marks (depends) are considered beautiful as well.

Polygamy as a Motivator:
Occurs in species that are sexually dimorphic (usually). An individual of one sex mates with several individuals of the other sex.
Polygyny: One male with many females (most common). Males are usually very showy and bigger than females.
Polyandry: One female mates with many males (rare). Female is more showy.
Polygyny is also more common in human societies. My point here is not that you need to be in a polygamous relationship, but that males need to be showy and bigger than females to attract mates. Having many women requires good economic and social status. "Oh, but I'm monogamous!" Always set your standards farther than what you want. You want to get a 90 in your math class? It seems realistic, but if you increase your self expectations, say get 100 instead, you can achieve more. Act like you have to work hard to gain multiple women, even though you will most likely only date one. This will also mean you will have more options.



Female offspring selecting for ornaments of male parents in future mates.
_1DWQEmR__VNd_u2SNRcurC9ALh8YlKg_lCJNHdUkt8jaqH6ZsZVHw_IvZSO_016De9qYla4T8Z5TD9jpXM5roG8dW4lOxZLzbosRrSXGht6uobQ7DNQ1IBWl7JPB_H4SsXYH2x9swk8DKtGfhEEPzHVbAAIm9QD=nw

In this experiment, birds were bred. The ornament here is artificial, so there is no genetic factor correlated to the attraction. The female progeny of the males that were ornamented now has preferences for it as an adult. But when the mother is ornamented and the father is never ornamented, there is no attraction. Thus, females are attracted to traits similar to male family members.



Why men spend more time with women prior to having children.

Males of different species want to be sure that the offspring is theirs. Otherwise, he is cucked and does not want to waste resources on an offspring that does not have his genetic material. Males can assure this better by forming a bond with a female, securing the relationship and spending a lot of time with her, even stopping her from being around other men so that there is no potential of a bastard child. There is also less likely to be paternal care in less assured relationships. In humans, people usually befriend each other, then date, then marry, and then have kids. It is a long and tedious process to secure a woman and have a higher chance of a legitimate offspring. It is natural as humans that we do this. Thus, you must secure a solid relationship with a woman before you two have sex and now you have to pay child support for a kid you aren't even sure is yours. Women also like men who are nurturing and can provide. You can show off these traits during the courting process, thus solidifying your chances. (We as humans have the ultimate goal of reproduction and ensuring the survival of ourselves but more importantly the next generation, which is why I added this section.)



Mate-choice Copying:
4YbruyrcM4B4qXzE_0jVPmpa7IWG5nm_psj3Ax0g3f1MFv8F3zfoLATSYS9HOdqYqt_6Qa-WivaVI2leapQQAWesAk0vHgLQboPhS6MsS2prJemFv8GtJ7PrxqpsuHuSLUyUEMwyPvfA-PEBxFblx1vjSTt7EfJk=nw

Here, the female gupppies are not attracted to the lighter male. But when a decoy female is shown giving attention to the lighter male, suddenly the other females guppies are interested. Basically, they will copy the mate choice of another. Thus, garner interest and social relationships with people of both sexes. Tbh, I don't have this sort of thing, and it will likely be difficult. But if you have some kind of social support from females, you don't even have to be friends with them (like a fanbase), then other females will take notice.












Male Competition for Mates/Intrasexual Selection
Everyone knows this, so I will not waste time on explaining it. Some examples of competition in humans would be economical, social, intelligence wise, physical, generosity, and power. View attachment 29235

Game Theory
These are side blotched lizards. They are often used as an example of game theory in reproductive success of animals "rock, paper, scissor" example. Basically, each has an advantage and a disadvantage. Their colors are orange, blue, and yellow. The orange ones are aggressive, and have a lot of territory and females. The blue ones are not as aggressive, have smaller territory and less females. The yellow ones pretend to be females, and sneak into the orange lizards territory (usually, rarely they go to blue). There, the yellow ones blend in and mate with the other females. Eventually, there will be a noticeable amount of yellow progeny compared to orange in that territory. All of these lizards have their sucesses. The lesson is that you need to learn to use your cards to your advantage. The orange ones were born with easy success, as humans we would call these the genetic lottery chads. The blue ones are more humble, like average guys that worked hard but are not good enough to have the same power as orange (brutal blackpill). The yellow ones are trannies, femboys, and soft low T men that use manipulation to secure a mate. Most likely, you are between blue and yellow. Not good enough to make your own territory and females but good enough to use other strategies. Use game theory, use strategies. All of these strategies are dependent to each other, like rock paper scissors. We are all side blotched lizards. And your girlfriend's gay bestfriend will cuck you.

This is the yap session everyone gets today

@allexxs @RAJ GHRANDHICK @sexlesstosexles @Nihilus @VisageVirtuoso√ @AstroSky idk who else sorry i have shit memory am not being mean if i did not include you
Will definitely read
 
Was struggling with the title but it is whatever
I will rely on science for this, including behavioral ecology
This is just an observation, not a guide.

The Fisherian Runaway Effect/Ornamentation
This thread by @Nihilus sums it up pretty well: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/thre...ale-of-ostentatious-ornaments-must-read.9184/
To sum it up if you didn't want to read it: Fisherian runaway is a theory explaining how female preference can drive the evolution of extreme male traits, like peacock tails. These traits may seem impractical, but females preferring them creates a loop where the traits become more and more common + desirable.
How can you utilize this? Good skin is arguably related to this effect. In nature, it is not likely you will find a person with perfect, smooth skin. People are very attracted to this trait, and some can say that it correlates to good genes and youth. Additionally, having a lot of muscle. In nature, long ago, men were very athletic, they ran a lot, fought, and built homes. But they did not have the same body standards as men have now. V taper with <12% bf is around ideal today. Some genetic features, such as blue/green eyes, blond hair, freckles, heterochromia (especially central), long lashes or multiple rows (distichiasis), and birthmarks and beauty marks (depends) are considered beautiful as well.

Polygamy as a Motivator:
Occurs in species that are sexually dimorphic (usually). An individual of one sex mates with several individuals of the other sex.
Polygyny: One male with many females (most common). Males are usually very showy and bigger than females.
Polyandry: One female mates with many males (rare). Female is more showy.
Polygyny is also more common in human societies. My point here is not that you need to be in a polygamous relationship, but that males need to be showy and bigger than females to attract mates. Having many women requires good economic and social status. "Oh, but I'm monogamous!" Always set your standards farther than what you want. You want to get a 90 in your math class? It seems realistic, but if you increase your self expectations, say get 100 instead, you can achieve more. Act like you have to work hard to gain multiple women, even though you will most likely only date one. This will also mean you will have more options.



Female offspring selecting for ornaments of male parents in future mates.
_1DWQEmR__VNd_u2SNRcurC9ALh8YlKg_lCJNHdUkt8jaqH6ZsZVHw_IvZSO_016De9qYla4T8Z5TD9jpXM5roG8dW4lOxZLzbosRrSXGht6uobQ7DNQ1IBWl7JPB_H4SsXYH2x9swk8DKtGfhEEPzHVbAAIm9QD=nw

In this experiment, birds were bred. The ornament here is artificial, so there is no genetic factor correlated to the attraction. The female progeny of the males that were ornamented now has preferences for it as an adult. But when the mother is ornamented and the father is never ornamented, there is no attraction. Thus, females are attracted to traits similar to male family members.



Why men spend more time with women prior to having children.

Males of different species want to be sure that the offspring is theirs. Otherwise, he is cucked and does not want to waste resources on an offspring that does not have his genetic material. Males can assure this better by forming a bond with a female, securing the relationship and spending a lot of time with her, even stopping her from being around other men so that there is no potential of a bastard child. There is also less likely to be paternal care in less assured relationships. In humans, people usually befriend each other, then date, then marry, and then have kids. It is a long and tedious process to secure a woman and have a higher chance of a legitimate offspring. It is natural as humans that we do this. Thus, you must secure a solid relationship with a woman before you two have sex and now you have to pay child support for a kid you aren't even sure is yours. Women also like men who are nurturing and can provide. You can show off these traits during the courting process, thus solidifying your chances. (We as humans have the ultimate goal of reproduction and ensuring the survival of ourselves but more importantly the next generation, which is why I added this section.)



Mate-choice Copying:
4YbruyrcM4B4qXzE_0jVPmpa7IWG5nm_psj3Ax0g3f1MFv8F3zfoLATSYS9HOdqYqt_6Qa-WivaVI2leapQQAWesAk0vHgLQboPhS6MsS2prJemFv8GtJ7PrxqpsuHuSLUyUEMwyPvfA-PEBxFblx1vjSTt7EfJk=nw

Here, the female gupppies are not attracted to the lighter male. But when a decoy female is shown giving attention to the lighter male, suddenly the other females guppies are interested. Basically, they will copy the mate choice of another. Thus, garner interest and social relationships with people of both sexes. Tbh, I don't have this sort of thing, and it will likely be difficult. But if you have some kind of social support from females, you don't even have to be friends with them (like a fanbase), then other females will take notice.












Male Competition for Mates/Intrasexual Selection
Everyone knows this, so I will not waste time on explaining it. Some examples of competition in humans would be economical, social, intelligence wise, physical, generosity, and power. View attachment 29235

Game Theory
These are side blotched lizards. They are often used as an example of game theory in reproductive success of animals "rock, paper, scissor" example. Basically, each has an advantage and a disadvantage. Their colors are orange, blue, and yellow. The orange ones are aggressive, and have a lot of territory and females. The blue ones are not as aggressive, have smaller territory and less females. The yellow ones pretend to be females, and sneak into the orange lizards territory (usually, rarely they go to blue). There, the yellow ones blend in and mate with the other females. Eventually, there will be a noticeable amount of yellow progeny compared to orange in that territory. All of these lizards have their sucesses. The lesson is that you need to learn to use your cards to your advantage. The orange ones were born with easy success, as humans we would call these the genetic lottery chads. The blue ones are more humble, like average guys that worked hard but are not good enough to have the same power as orange (brutal blackpill). The yellow ones are trannies, femboys, and soft low T men that use manipulation to secure a mate. Most likely, you are between blue and yellow. Not good enough to make your own territory and females but good enough to use other strategies. Use game theory, use strategies. All of these strategies are dependent to each other, like rock paper scissors. We are all side blotched lizards. And your girlfriend's gay bestfriend will cuck you.

This is the yap session everyone gets today

@allexxs @RAJ GHRANDHICK @sexlesstosexles @Nihilus @VisageVirtuoso√ @AstroSky idk who else sorry i have shit memory am not being mean if i did not include you
Intresting thread
 
Was struggling with the title but it is whatever
I will rely on science for this, including behavioral ecology
This is just an observation, not a guide.

The Fisherian Runaway Effect/Ornamentation
This thread by @Nihilus sums it up pretty well: https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/thre...ale-of-ostentatious-ornaments-must-read.9184/
To sum it up if you didn't want to read it: Fisherian runaway is a theory explaining how female preference can drive the evolution of extreme male traits, like peacock tails. These traits may seem impractical, but females preferring them creates a loop where the traits become more and more common + desirable.
How can you utilize this? Good skin is arguably related to this effect. In nature, it is not likely you will find a person with perfect, smooth skin. People are very attracted to this trait, and some can say that it correlates to good genes and youth. Additionally, having a lot of muscle. In nature, long ago, men were very athletic, they ran a lot, fought, and built homes. But they did not have the same body standards as men have now. V taper with <12% bf is around ideal today. Some genetic features, such as blue/green eyes, blond hair, freckles, heterochromia (especially central), long lashes or multiple rows (distichiasis), and birthmarks and beauty marks (depends) are considered beautiful as well.

Polygamy as a Motivator:
Occurs in species that are sexually dimorphic (usually). An individual of one sex mates with several individuals of the other sex.
Polygyny: One male with many females (most common). Males are usually very showy and bigger than females.
Polyandry: One female mates with many males (rare). Female is more showy.
Polygyny is also more common in human societies. My point here is not that you need to be in a polygamous relationship, but that males need to be showy and bigger than females to attract mates. Having many women requires good economic and social status. "Oh, but I'm monogamous!" Always set your standards farther than what you want. You want to get a 90 in your math class? It seems realistic, but if you increase your self expectations, say get 100 instead, you can achieve more. Act like you have to work hard to gain multiple women, even though you will most likely only date one. This will also mean you will have more options.



Female offspring selecting for ornaments of male parents in future mates.
_1DWQEmR__VNd_u2SNRcurC9ALh8YlKg_lCJNHdUkt8jaqH6ZsZVHw_IvZSO_016De9qYla4T8Z5TD9jpXM5roG8dW4lOxZLzbosRrSXGht6uobQ7DNQ1IBWl7JPB_H4SsXYH2x9swk8DKtGfhEEPzHVbAAIm9QD=nw

In this experiment, birds were bred. The ornament here is artificial, so there is no genetic factor correlated to the attraction. The female progeny of the males that were ornamented now has preferences for it as an adult. But when the mother is ornamented and the father is never ornamented, there is no attraction. Thus, females are attracted to traits similar to male family members.



Why men spend more time with women prior to having children.

Males of different species want to be sure that the offspring is theirs. Otherwise, he is cucked and does not want to waste resources on an offspring that does not have his genetic material. Males can assure this better by forming a bond with a female, securing the relationship and spending a lot of time with her, even stopping her from being around other men so that there is no potential of a bastard child. There is also less likely to be paternal care in less assured relationships. In humans, people usually befriend each other, then date, then marry, and then have kids. It is a long and tedious process to secure a woman and have a higher chance of a legitimate offspring. It is natural as humans that we do this. Thus, you must secure a solid relationship with a woman before you two have sex and now you have to pay child support for a kid you aren't even sure is yours. Women also like men who are nurturing and can provide. You can show off these traits during the courting process, thus solidifying your chances. (We as humans have the ultimate goal of reproduction and ensuring the survival of ourselves but more importantly the next generation, which is why I added this section.)



Mate-choice Copying:
4YbruyrcM4B4qXzE_0jVPmpa7IWG5nm_psj3Ax0g3f1MFv8F3zfoLATSYS9HOdqYqt_6Qa-WivaVI2leapQQAWesAk0vHgLQboPhS6MsS2prJemFv8GtJ7PrxqpsuHuSLUyUEMwyPvfA-PEBxFblx1vjSTt7EfJk=nw

Here, the female gupppies are not attracted to the lighter male. But when a decoy female is shown giving attention to the lighter male, suddenly the other females guppies are interested. Basically, they will copy the mate choice of another. Thus, garner interest and social relationships with people of both sexes. Tbh, I don't have this sort of thing, and it will likely be difficult. But if you have some kind of social support from females, you don't even have to be friends with them (like a fanbase), then other females will take notice.












Male Competition for Mates/Intrasexual Selection
Everyone knows this, so I will not waste time on explaining it. Some examples of competition in humans would be economical, social, intelligence wise, physical, generosity, and power. View attachment 29235

Game Theory
These are side blotched lizards. They are often used as an example of game theory in reproductive success of animals "rock, paper, scissor" example. Basically, each has an advantage and a disadvantage. Their colors are orange, blue, and yellow. The orange ones are aggressive, and have a lot of territory and females. The blue ones are not as aggressive, have smaller territory and less females. The yellow ones pretend to be females, and sneak into the orange lizards territory (usually, rarely they go to blue). There, the yellow ones blend in and mate with the other females. Eventually, there will be a noticeable amount of yellow progeny compared to orange in that territory. All of these lizards have their sucesses. The lesson is that you need to learn to use your cards to your advantage. The orange ones were born with easy success, as humans we would call these the genetic lottery chads. The blue ones are more humble, like average guys that worked hard but are not good enough to have the same power as orange (brutal blackpill). The yellow ones are trannies, femboys, and soft low T men that use manipulation to secure a mate. Most likely, you are between blue and yellow. Not good enough to make your own territory and females but good enough to use other strategies. Use game theory, use strategies. All of these strategies are dependent to each other, like rock paper scissors. We are all side blotched lizards. And your girlfriend's gay bestfriend will cuck you.

This is the yap session everyone gets today

@allexxs @RAJ GHRANDHICK @sexlesstosexles @Nihilus @VisageVirtuoso√ @AstroSky idk who else sorry i have shit memory am not being mean if i did not include you
Mirin effort bhai
Sounds interesting
Def will read
 
cant beilive this is true, its like how they said female are more attracted to u when u have a girlfriend


:pensivecold:
Lol so true Every time I'm in a LTR girls would stalk my Instagram and stories and literally just watch me like a hawk
I'd say every week it's someone new just checking me out. It's kinda creepy and a few have tried to sabotage my relationship for some reason. Just recently a girl tried to suggest I was cheating on my girlfriend because I viewed her story. Very petty
 
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You should create a tier list of the ornaments.
alr, i forgot about this for a while, but i returned
if you have any other ideas tell me
ornaments from least to best:

7. Red hair: typically considered unattractive, most sperm banks do not allow red heads to give sperm
6. Freckles: recently they became more popular. They can be associated w/ youthfulness bc they fade as you age. Not particularly special imo
5. Beauty Marks/ Birth marks: not particularly special, but can be perceived as attractive. in the olden days, they used to make fake moles on the chin
4. Very long lashes/dichistisis: considered very attractive amongst both sexes.
3. Blond Hair: high appeal trait, but eyelashes and brows could appear non existent due to this
2. Light Colored eyes: everyone knows that blue/green eyes are appealing
1. Heterochromia: very rare, but in middle school and online i see girls who find it cool. central heterochromia is more common in my experience, and it is definitely attractive
 

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