The main reason capitalism is better then socialism

[Luxe]

In capitalism we control the corporations. For example, if the worker bees stop working the queen bee falls

In socialism if we stoped working we would be affected negatively

So in capitalism we can hold big corporations and the government accountable and in socialism we are forced to work

 

[Luxe]

Bumpity bump bump

 

[𐲀 𐲢 𐲠 𐲀 𐲇 𐲰]

Two sides of the same clipped coin

 

[icnone]

In capitalism we control the corporations. For example, if the worker bees stop working the queen bee falls

In socialism if we stoped working we would be affected negatively

So in capitalism we can hold big corporations and the government accountable and in socialism we are forced to work

Capitalism has accelerated so many technological innovations.

 

[ㅤㅤㅤ]

Shitty reasoning, but alright.

 

[submissivechud]

Capitalism has accelerated so many technological innovations.

so has socialism what

 

[icnone]

so has socialism what

Communist countries lagged behind in terms of development

 

[kitti]

both systems are easily corrupted, capitalism and socialism will be abused by the government regardless lol

 

[tami_26]

In capitalism we control the corporations. For example, if the worker bees stop working the queen bee falls

In socialism if we stoped working we would be affected negatively

So in capitalism we can hold big corporations and the government accountable and in socialism we are forced to work

In capitalism If u stop working it negatively affected too

Capitalism has accelerated so many technological innovations.

we have survived as a species without capitalism for a long time, capitalism = better survival or innovation

 

[submissivechud]

Communist countries lagged behind in terms of development

ussr took a poor country of farmers to space within less then 10 years
without ussr america wouldnt have invested so much money into space programs, socialism showed the world space was reachable

 

[icnone]

ussr took a poor country of farmers to space within less then 10 years

But the vast majority of the country lagged behind. Take a look at China as well. They've rapidly industrialized under capitalism, but a lot of the country lags behind the developed world due to decades of communism.

without ussr america wouldnt have invested so much money into space programs, socialism showed the world space was reachable

So, competition drove innovation?

 

[Luxe]

In capitalism If u stop working it negatively affected too

The corporations (the bosses of the “people”) would be negatively affected not really the people

 

[submissivechud]

But the vast majority of the country lagged behind

yeah ik they didnt do socialism well and it was somewhat corrupt. you were talking about technological innovation tho

. Take a look at China as well. They've rapidly industrialized under capitalism, but a lot of the country lags behind the developed world due to decades of communism.

chinas the top three most powerful countries in the world

So, competition drove innovation?

yepp

 

[tami_26]

Communist countries lagged behind in terms of development

They tended to have a worse start but had more development compared to the country state previously

 

[tami_26]

The corporations (the bosses of the “people”) would be negatively affected not really the people

Corporations have millions,if a worker stops working they wouldn’t be able to afford basic necessities

 

[icnone]

yeah ik they didnt do socialism well and it was somewhat corrupt. you were talking about technological innovation tho

chinas the top three most powerful countries in the world

yepp

Competition was what allowed the US and USSR to compete in the space race. Competition does not need to happen on a global scale, you can have companies within a country competing to create better products.

AI is a very good example. We have an arms race between multiple companies (OAI, Anthropic, Google, xAI, etc) due to competition and as a result, the US is the leader in AI.

 

[Luxe]

ussr took a poor country of farmers to space within less then 10 years
without ussr america wouldnt have invested so much money into space programs, socialism showed the world space was reachable

Ok, those farmers were forced to work.

In the end capitalism innovation was what made America reach the moon first lol

 

[Luxe]

Corporations have millions,if a worker stops working they wouldn’t be able to afford basic necessities

Ok but I’m taking about all workers

If purely hypothetical but if that happened corporations would fall not the people

 

[Byro]

Communist countries lagged behind in terms of development

first to get to the moon btw

 

[Luxe]

first to get to the moon btw

Was America, right?

 

[icnone]

first to get to the moon btw

first to land on the moon btw
one accomplishment doesn't change the average

 

[submissivechud]

Competition was what allowed the US and USSR to compete in the space race. Competition does not need to happen on a global scale, you can have companies within a country competing to create better products.

yeah i agree

AI is a very good example. We have an arms race between multiple companies (OAI, Anthropic, Google, xAI, etc) due to competition and as a result, the US is the leader in AI.

n***a ik this i was disagreeing with the fact socialism causes less tech growth

 

[submissivechud]

Ok, those farmers were forced to work.

In the end capitalism innovation was what made America reach the moon first lol

no the us won because of how much richer it was

 

[Byro]

In capitalism we control the corporations. For example, if the worker bees stop working the queen bee falls

In socialism if we stoped working we would be affected negatively

So in capitalism we can hold big corporations and the government accountable and in socialism we are forced to work

first point is the individual has no actual power they have to rely on workers unions
also strikes are incredibly risky. also your relying on a massive IF all the people stopped working which is nonsenseical.

you are also framing capitalism wrong. capitalism people are still forced to work no different
your survival rely's on your participation.

many socialist policies in countries such as sweden or norway use things to increase worker control like democratic planning models

 

[Luxe]

no the us won because of how much richer it was

Ohhhh I wonder why they were richer

Eeee eeerrrr

BECAUSE OF CAPITALISM

 

[Byro]

why defend capitalism with 0 capital @Luxe

 

[submissivechud]

Ohhhh I wonder why they were richer

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BECAUSE OF CAPITALISM

no??
americas been a organized country under that form of leadership for much longer and has sustained less damage then the ussr

 

[Luxe]

first point is the individual has no actual power they have to rely on workers unions
also strikes are incredibly risky. also your relying on a massive IF all the people stopped working which is nonsenseical.

you are also framing capitalism wrong. capitalism people are still forced to work no different
your survival rely's on your participation.

many socialist policies in countries such as sweden or norway use things to increase worker control like democratic planning models

it was a hypothetical that would positively affect capitalism and negatively affect socialism

Yeah the way things are set up in America you have to work but you have the natural rights of owning something. In Socialism you really can’t have a goal or a dream

 

[Haurucky]

Capitalism has accelerated so many technological innovations.

Socialism brought Russia from a dirt poor country to the moon in a matter of years

 

[Luxe]

no??
americas been a organized country under that form of leadership for much longer and has sustained less damage then the ussr

I wonder why

 

[submissivechud]

I wonder why

i js explained why n***a

 

[Luxe]

Socialism brought Russia from a dirt poor country to the moon in a matter of years

They only thing they contributed to the space race was the competition, which was basically an incentive for America to innovate

 

[Byro]

okay then.
here's a list of inventions built by the socialist countries!

first to land on the moon btw
one accomplishment doesn't change the average

first to make a nuclear power grid (one of the strongest forms of energy with the least carbon waste)
large workers rights reforms globally!
they had the first human in space.
first satellite
gender equality efforts

 

[Luxe]

americas been a organized country under that form of leadership

who’s does democracy affect the economy lolz

It’s bc of capitalism

 

[Luxe]

gender equality efforts

Nerf

 

[Byro]

it was a hypothetical that would positively affect capitalism and negatively affect socialism

Yeah the way things are set up in America you have to work but you have the natural rights of owning something. In Socialism you really can’t have a goal or a dream

your "dream" is slavery.

 

[Luxe]

okay then.
here's a list of inventions built by the socialist countries!

first to make a nuclear power grid (one of the strongest forms of energy with the least carbon waste)
large workers rights reforms globally!
they had the first human in space.
first satellite
gender equality efforts

Mundane ass stuff tbh

 

[icnone]

okay then.
here's a list of inventions built by the socialist countries!

first to make a nuclear power grid (one of the strongest forms of energy with the least carbon waste)
large workers rights reforms globally!
they had the first human in space.
first satellite
gender equality efforts

great, now compare gdp between capitalist and socialist countries

 

[Luxe]

your "dream" is slavery.

No, not being able to privately own something is slavery lol

 

[Byro]

Nerf

 

[Luxe]

great, now compare gdp between capitalist and socialist countries

America has the highest gdp lol

 

[Byro]

No, not being able to privately own something is slavery lol

where are your privately owned possessions

 

[Byro]

great, now compare gdp between capitalist and socialist countries

name a socialist country that hasnt been thwarted by the US?

 

[Luxe]

where are your privately owned possessions

My salmon sperm business

 

[Luxe]

name a socialist country that hasnt been thwarted by the US?

Maybe china

 

[Byro]

Maybe china

china has consistently had a thorn in its side from the US. and some people wouldnt even consider it socialist.

if china is a socialist country and its had the fastest economic growth in history.
socialism should mog the fuck out of USA + look at ur economy right now
you see ur 20$ eggs and you think ur life is great JFL

 

[Luxe]

china has consistently had a thorn in its side from the US. and some people wouldnt even consider it socialist.

if china is a socialist country and its had the fastest economic growth in history.
socialism should mog the fuck out of USA + look at ur economy right now
you see ur 20$ eggs and you think ur life is great JFL

True but look at the quality of life in China

Let’s weigh the impacts, China values the government more then its people

Sure the economy in America is fucked up but realistically nobody goes hungry and we don’t violate human rights like China does

So if you value government success and not the people then socialism is for you. In capitalism the person has some control over their future

 

[Byro]

True but look at the quality of life in China

Let’s weigh the impacts, China values the government more then its people

Sure the economy in America is fucked up but realistically nobody goes hungry and we don’t violate human rights like China does

So if you value government success and not the people then socialism is for you. In capitalism the person has some control over their future

plenty go hungry in the USA ur ignorance is bliss

 

[Suomi Volksgrenadier]

ussr took a poor country of farmers to space within less then 10 years

Wow, fly to space while having deficit(man-made btw), economic fall, 2 decades of crisis, getting hatred between civilians rise(because of denunication), Bloody uprising,
High death toll during the revolution,
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and division of Europe,Repressions and deportations of peoples, Famine in Ukraine, Famine in Kazakhstan, Destruction of architectural buildings, Purges of the military (generals), Repressions based on nationality, Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Collapse of the empire, Baltic states (controversial issue), Lack of preparation for war with Germany, War with Finland, Dissolution of the Cossacks, Destruction of churches

 

[Luxe]

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plenty go hungry in the USA ur ignorance is bliss

USA (most successful capitalist country) has people go hungry but overall China has more hunger (the most successful communist country)