Discussion Thoughts on anavar only cycle?

[Donotcum69]

im doing 10 mg for 4 weeks mainly for

. losing 3 kg fat and putting on 4 kg of muscle (i have muscle memory and intermediate)

. see how i react to AAS

. increased collagen for a procedure im getting ( tca cross/peel)

. androgenic mindset and how it affects how i see the world (i like psychotropic things)

4 weeks after i will stop and analyse

most people seem to have averse reaction to orals only because they think our aim is to blow up like thanksgiving turkey and call it a waste of time, however im interested mainly in cutting and experiencing aas. I have some T gel on hand and dhea assuming estrogen gets too low and might do a week of clomid or enclomiphene if i feel suppression. might stop at 3 weeks if sides get bad (although i doubt it) and will inject T after 3 months while running var concurrently at a higher doseage. Peope use 50 mg/d and get shutdown and start blaming the drug and oral only cycles.

 

[Donotcum69]

had dogshit reaction to proviron when i tried it though brutal, i hope its due to its v high androgen anabolic ratio tho and not the suppression

 

[goldenreaper228]

its not a bad idea make sure you take it twice per day to keep levels steady, 10mg is a very mild dosage and should have minimal suppression, dont expect 4kg of muscle though

 

[Donotcum69]

its not a bad idea make sure you take it twice per day to keep levels steady, 10mg is a very mild dosage and should have minimal suppression, dont expect 4kg of muscle though

yeah im basically relying mainly on muscle memor and fact im just intermediate, 3 kg muscle could be achieved I think. why do you say keep levels steady? i heard some use it as preworkout,im mainly using just to get experience not really blow up in size or anything, i hope it helps me cut though. also some report insomnia is it just cns stimulation? id take it at morning alone then

 

[sirmaxxalot]

Even for Orals with short half life, 4 weeks wont be enough to get good effects. After 3-4 Weeks the steroid will be close to the desired saturation in the body and only after that point it will do anything noticable. Basically you are frying your live, bp, testosterone production for having a steroid saturated and then drop it. At least do 6 weeks, dont do longer than 8 weeks. Use liver support, use a testosterone base. If you are scared of injecting HCG or real Test for a base, use either enclo at high asf doses or use 4andro

Edit: to sum up, oral only is stupid, might work but not at 4 weeks.

 

[Donotcum69]

Even for Orals with short half life, 4 weeks wont be enough to get good effects. After 3-4 Weeks the steroid will be close to the desired saturation in the body and only after that point it will do anything noticable. Basically you are frying your live, bp, testosterone production for having a steroid saturated and then drop it. At least do 6 weeks, dont do longer than 8 weeks. Use liver support, use a testosterone base. If you are scared of injecting HCG or real Test for a base, use either enclo at high asf doses or use 4andro

Edit: to sum up, oral only is stupid, might work but not at 4 weeks.

the aim is not to blow up but for other reasons i mentioned, i doubt the fat loss aiding effect requires for it to saturate, low dose produces a transient suppression at best from the anecdotes ive heard. im most interested in its glucocorticoid reduction and collagen induction and slight euphoria on lower doses that some people seem to get. This is just an experiment, i doubt lipids are going to impacted much at 10 mg . anavar is not hepatoxic comp to other stuff although ill prolly use tudca . Ive heard anavar works instantly compared to teststoenre which requires time to saturate, why do you say it takes 3 weeks?

 

[sirmaxxalot]

the aim is not to blow up but for other reasons i mentioned, i doubt the fat loss aiding effect requires for it to saturate, low dose produces a transient suppression at best from the anecdotes ive heard. im most interested in its glucocorticoid reduction and collagen induction and slight euphoria on lower doses that some people seem to get. This is just an experiment, i doubt lipids are going to impacted much at 10 mg . anavar is not hepatoxic comp to other stuff although ill prolly use tudca . Ive heard anavar works instantly compared to teststoenre which requires time to saturate, why do you say it takes 3 weeks?

Anavar saturates a lot quicker than testosterone yes but still it will need some time. Id say the most results from anavar will start at week 3-6 when doing oral only. I doubt at 10mg you will be able to build 4kg of solid muscle while dropping 3kg of fat. You are also right about hepatoxicity but as you said just use tudca. Better be safe than sorry. Also just use a test base like enclo or hcg or do a little pct. Especially if you extend it to 6 weeks

 

[Donotcum69]

Anavar saturates a lot quicker than testosterone yes but still it will need some time. Id say the most results from anavar will start at week 3-6 when doing oral only. I doubt at 10mg you will be able to build 4kg of solid muscle while dropping 3kg of fat. You are also right about hepatoxicity but as you said just use tudca. Better be safe than sorry. Also just use a test base like enclo or hcg or do a little pct. Especially if you extend it to 6 weeks

wdyt about clomid vs enclo and is it better to start pct at tail end of oral only or use it after i stop var?

 

[sirmaxxalot]

wdyt about clomid vs enclo and is it better to start pct at tail end of oral only or use it after i stop var?

You start PCT after your last dose of suppressive compounds. Id use enclo since the zuclomiphene in clomid is useless for pct and only makes you feel like trash (depends on the person ofc). Clomid is a blend of enclomiphene and zuclomiphene and basically for what you are trying to use the enclo for its a better choice. Id also recommend to use enclo on cycle as a test base to combat suppression and make pct easier. Or inject hcg for test base