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If youre in puberty still (below 18-19) then thumbpulling genuienly works. remember the big mew said thumbpulling acts as a catalyst for mewing, we are not moving our maxilla with our thumbs, rather guiding it forward and mewing 24/7 is actually doing the moving. if you stay consistent, do it for 10 minutes every day for a year, you WILL get forward growth. some people say thumbpulling is cope and they dont do it, this is just natural selection. if you look at reddit, all the people who did mewing who did thumbpulling have decent forward growth now, they did not give up and say "yeaaa its cope anyways"