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⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
hi friends,
this thread is about undereye fatpad maxxing for a more positive orbital vector with no surgery needed! (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
what is a positive orbital vector?
it’s when your midface projects enough that the lower eyelid sits flush with the cheekbone. this makes eyes look supported and can give a more 'youthful' appearance (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧. when the orbital vector is negative (eyes more forward than midface), under–eye fat pads or hollows stand out a lot more (╥﹏╥). this can suck for some peopl
since surgery like fat grafting isn’t an option for everyone yet like us who aren’t adults or aren’t eligible for surgery, here’s what actually works non–surgically (・^・✿)
ill go over softmaxxing, hardmaxxing, frauding, and experimental stuffs !!
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
beginner / softmaxxing ^^
fat preservation & body comp
try not to cut body fat too low when young, it hollows the under–eye area. slight fat gain can soften orbital hollowing if you’re very lean ( ´ ∀ ` )ﾉ.
skin health
retinoids support collagen long term, vitamin C helps density + brightness, sunscreen every day prevents orbital collagen loss, and hyaluronic acid can give some temporary plumping (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)و.
lifestyle
deep sleep makes midface fat look healthier, hydration and electrolytes reduce harsh shadows, and avoiding smoking or heavy alcohol helps preserve fatpads (｡˘•ᴗ•˘｡).
med–spa options (non surgical)
HA filler in tear trough / orbital rim is the closest effect to grafting (temporary + reversible), PRP or PRF injections build support slowly, and RF microneedling or ultrasound tightening can give small benefits (^ _ ^*).
training & posture
mewing gives subtle long term orbital support, orbicularis oculi exercises can add fullness when smiling, and the right glasses shape instantly balances orbital support ( • ᴗ • )✧.
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
cope aesthetics and illusions
– haircut: fuller or layered cuts add width to midface, avoid super long thin hair that elongates face more ( ´•̥ו̥` ).
– styling: grow brows a little thicker to frame orbital area, use subtle concealer or color corrector to soften shadowing (only if you want).
– lighting: softer top–down light reduces harsh eye bags, avoid strong up–lighting which exaggerates hollows (￣ヘ￣).
– accessories: glasses with a higher bridge + thicker frame can balance orbital depth, making fat pads look more supported (⁎˃ᆺ˂).
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
advanced / hardmaxxing ^^
cheek & midface hypertrophy
– targeted masseter & upper cheek exercises can slightly increase midface projection. do gently, consistency > intensity ( ´ ∀ ` )ﾉ
– overall lean muscle build in upper body creates optical illusion of more forward midface
– avoid extreme leanness—some midface fat is essential to keep orbital area full (｡˘•ᴗ•˘｡)
orbital skin thickening
– microneedling 0.25–0.5mm under eyes with hyaluronic acid serum and small collagen + hydration boost over time (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)و
– topical retinoids nightly maintain dermal thickness, prevent sagging
– optional PRP/PRF injections can subtly stimulate collagen/fat pad support (^_−)☆
posture & craniofacial optimization
– mewing: tongue posture prevents further midface retrusion, gives subtle long-term support
– neck & scapular posture exercises → head sits more forward naturally, improving perceived orbital vector
– sleep posture: avoid sleeping flat face-down; try slightly elevated head to reduce fluid pooling (•‿•)
subtle volumization hacks
– creatine microdosing (3g/day) hydrates cells including face can slightly plump hollows
– proper hydration + electrolytes maximize natural fat pad visibility without swelling (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
high-IQ optical illusions
– eyebrow framing: thicker or slightly forward-set brows make orbital region look fuller
– glasses: higher bridge + thicker frame = more supported orbital appearance (⁎˃ᆺ˂)
– hair framing: fuller, layered hair adds width to midface and downplays negative orbital vector
– lighting: soft top-down or angled lighting reduces harsh shadows (￣∇￣)
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
Extrememaxxing / borderline risky
aggressive mewing / maxilla expansion
– advanced mewing techniques, including conscious tongue pressing for several hours per day, can slightly push the maxilla forward (positive orbital vector gain).
– some maxxers combine with jawline exercises for added leverage.
– risk: overdoing can cause jaw tension, TMJ pain, or facial asymmetry (╥﹏╥)
bone remodeling attempts (highly experimental)
– very small forces applied to midface via pressure/“bone smashing” techniques are claimed in some forums to shift orbital projection over months.
– extremely risky: bone fractures, permanent asymmetry, or nerve damage can occur (｡•́︿•̀｡)
tear trough filler stacking / overfill
– layering hyaluronic acid filler in tear troughs and orbital rim can mimic fat grafting.
– experienced maxxers sometimes combine HA + PRP for “bio-stacking” effects.
– risk: migration, swelling, blindness (rare but documented). never DIY (^_−)☆
aggressive facial exercises
– masseter hypertrophy, orbicularis oculi workouts, and cheek lifting drills at high frequency.
– risk: can overdevelop jaw or create unnatural tension if done too intensely (・_・)
extreme hydration + electrolytes stacking
– some people deliberately “volumize” face with high water + sodium cycles to temporarily plump midface/fatpads.
– risk: water retention, bloating, or electrolyte imbalance (｡•́︿•̀｡)
supplements / hormonal stacking (advanced, risky)
– GH boosting through sleep optimization, peptides, or hormone therapy (only under professional supervision).
– testosterone optimization (natural or medical) may help maintain midface fat.
– risk: hormones + peptides carry systemic effects (╥﹏╥)
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
notes / safety reminder
these are borderline unsafe hacks. some are genuinely risky or experimental. results are variable and mistakes can be permanent. the safest strategy is still the basic non-surgical stack: fat preservation, skin collagen, posture, sleep, hydration, and optical illusions (๑>◡<๑). use the hard maxxing section only if you understand the risks fully (｡•́︿•̀｡)
please be super duper careful and take me as a second source to your own research, I'm just a girl putting information into a forum !! please be super Duper careful sweethearts because I'd rather you be safe than sorry !!
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
summary / tldr
you can do orbital vector maxxing without surgery by protecting midface fat, building skin collagen, considering safe filler or PRP if possible, and optimizing sleep, hydration, and posture. cope aesthetics + advanced maxx strategies give instant illusion boosts while you wait for the big changes (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
oke bye bye friends, remember ily and you’re perfect just the way you are <333 (๑>◡<๑)
also if you like this thread you can tune into my twitch @rottenarlo to hangout ♡ i’m live most nights 11–12 est
hi friends,
this thread is about undereye fatpad maxxing for a more positive orbital vector with no surgery needed! (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
what is a positive orbital vector?
it’s when your midface projects enough that the lower eyelid sits flush with the cheekbone. this makes eyes look supported and can give a more 'youthful' appearance (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧. when the orbital vector is negative (eyes more forward than midface), under–eye fat pads or hollows stand out a lot more (╥﹏╥). this can suck for some peopl
since surgery like fat grafting isn’t an option for everyone yet like us who aren’t adults or aren’t eligible for surgery, here’s what actually works non–surgically (・^・✿)
ill go over softmaxxing, hardmaxxing, frauding, and experimental stuffs !!
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
beginner / softmaxxing ^^
fat preservation & body comp
try not to cut body fat too low when young, it hollows the under–eye area. slight fat gain can soften orbital hollowing if you’re very lean ( ´ ∀ ` )ﾉ.
skin health
retinoids support collagen long term, vitamin C helps density + brightness, sunscreen every day prevents orbital collagen loss, and hyaluronic acid can give some temporary plumping (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)و.
lifestyle
deep sleep makes midface fat look healthier, hydration and electrolytes reduce harsh shadows, and avoiding smoking or heavy alcohol helps preserve fatpads (｡˘•ᴗ•˘｡).
med–spa options (non surgical)
HA filler in tear trough / orbital rim is the closest effect to grafting (temporary + reversible), PRP or PRF injections build support slowly, and RF microneedling or ultrasound tightening can give small benefits (^ _ ^*).
training & posture
mewing gives subtle long term orbital support, orbicularis oculi exercises can add fullness when smiling, and the right glasses shape instantly balances orbital support ( • ᴗ • )✧.
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
cope aesthetics and illusions
– haircut: fuller or layered cuts add width to midface, avoid super long thin hair that elongates face more ( ´•̥ו̥` ).
– styling: grow brows a little thicker to frame orbital area, use subtle concealer or color corrector to soften shadowing (only if you want).
– lighting: softer top–down light reduces harsh eye bags, avoid strong up–lighting which exaggerates hollows (￣ヘ￣).
– accessories: glasses with a higher bridge + thicker frame can balance orbital depth, making fat pads look more supported (⁎˃ᆺ˂).
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
advanced / hardmaxxing ^^
cheek & midface hypertrophy
– targeted masseter & upper cheek exercises can slightly increase midface projection. do gently, consistency > intensity ( ´ ∀ ` )ﾉ
– overall lean muscle build in upper body creates optical illusion of more forward midface
– avoid extreme leanness—some midface fat is essential to keep orbital area full (｡˘•ᴗ•˘｡)
orbital skin thickening
– microneedling 0.25–0.5mm under eyes with hyaluronic acid serum and small collagen + hydration boost over time (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)و
– topical retinoids nightly maintain dermal thickness, prevent sagging
– optional PRP/PRF injections can subtly stimulate collagen/fat pad support (^_−)☆
posture & craniofacial optimization
– mewing: tongue posture prevents further midface retrusion, gives subtle long-term support
– neck & scapular posture exercises → head sits more forward naturally, improving perceived orbital vector
– sleep posture: avoid sleeping flat face-down; try slightly elevated head to reduce fluid pooling (•‿•)
subtle volumization hacks
– creatine microdosing (3g/day) hydrates cells including face can slightly plump hollows
– proper hydration + electrolytes maximize natural fat pad visibility without swelling (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
high-IQ optical illusions
– eyebrow framing: thicker or slightly forward-set brows make orbital region look fuller
– glasses: higher bridge + thicker frame = more supported orbital appearance (⁎˃ᆺ˂)
– hair framing: fuller, layered hair adds width to midface and downplays negative orbital vector
– lighting: soft top-down or angled lighting reduces harsh shadows (￣∇￣)
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
Extrememaxxing / borderline risky
aggressive mewing / maxilla expansion
– advanced mewing techniques, including conscious tongue pressing for several hours per day, can slightly push the maxilla forward (positive orbital vector gain).
– some maxxers combine with jawline exercises for added leverage.
– risk: overdoing can cause jaw tension, TMJ pain, or facial asymmetry (╥﹏╥)
bone remodeling attempts (highly experimental)
– very small forces applied to midface via pressure/“bone smashing” techniques are claimed in some forums to shift orbital projection over months.
– extremely risky: bone fractures, permanent asymmetry, or nerve damage can occur (｡•́︿•̀｡)
tear trough filler stacking / overfill
– layering hyaluronic acid filler in tear troughs and orbital rim can mimic fat grafting.
– experienced maxxers sometimes combine HA + PRP for “bio-stacking” effects.
– risk: migration, swelling, blindness (rare but documented). never DIY (^_−)☆
aggressive facial exercises
– masseter hypertrophy, orbicularis oculi workouts, and cheek lifting drills at high frequency.
– risk: can overdevelop jaw or create unnatural tension if done too intensely (・_・)
extreme hydration + electrolytes stacking
– some people deliberately “volumize” face with high water + sodium cycles to temporarily plump midface/fatpads.
– risk: water retention, bloating, or electrolyte imbalance (｡•́︿•̀｡)
supplements / hormonal stacking (advanced, risky)
– GH boosting through sleep optimization, peptides, or hormone therapy (only under professional supervision).
– testosterone optimization (natural or medical) may help maintain midface fat.
– risk: hormones + peptides carry systemic effects (╥﹏╥)
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
notes / safety reminder
these are borderline unsafe hacks. some are genuinely risky or experimental. results are variable and mistakes can be permanent. the safest strategy is still the basic non-surgical stack: fat preservation, skin collagen, posture, sleep, hydration, and optical illusions (๑>◡<๑). use the hard maxxing section only if you understand the risks fully (｡•́︿•̀｡)
please be super duper careful and take me as a second source to your own research, I'm just a girl putting information into a forum !! please be super Duper careful sweethearts because I'd rather you be safe than sorry !!
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
summary / tldr
you can do orbital vector maxxing without surgery by protecting midface fat, building skin collagen, considering safe filler or PRP if possible, and optimizing sleep, hydration, and posture. cope aesthetics + advanced maxx strategies give instant illusion boosts while you wait for the big changes (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
⏔⏔⏔ ꒰ ᧔ෆ᧓ ꒱ ⏔⏔⏔
oke bye bye friends, remember ily and you’re perfect just the way you are <333 (๑>◡<๑)
also if you like this thread you can tune into my twitch @rottenarlo to hangout ♡ i’m live most nights 11–12 est
