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Have you ever met someone who looks strange but you don’t understand what makes them look so strange? Well this could be for a variety of reasons, but sometimes it can have to do with their upper third. I know I’ve met someone like this, and when I focused my eyes on their forehead I realized what was making them look so fucking strange. She had an unusually short/sloped forehead. Completely fucking up her fwhr. Every other facial feature looked great, but that forehead nullified everything.
I’ll provide an example of a male celeb.
Don’t get me wrong I love Jesse pinkman, but have you ever found his appearance to be a bit off? Well most of us realize it’s something to do with his forehead. It’s not only the fact that he has a high forehead, but his frontal bone is giga rounded. Which is a feminine ideal, not a masculine one. There’s no slope to his forehead. Due to its roundness there’s absolutely no contrast highlighting his brow bone. His big upper third has caused skewed ratios as well. His temporal width is greater than his bigonial width, and his temples are about the same width as his zygos. Creating a hydrocephalus crack baby type silhouette
. All in all, I can barely name anything good about his forehead other than his somewhat square like hairline shape. Do you see what I mean now? A foreheads impact on someone’s appearance is immense.
The finger test
The probability that you’ve tried this is high, I know this has surfaced around the internet a lot. The finger test is where you can see how many fingers you can horizontally fit on your forehead. 3-4 is usually normal, but anything above that can signal a receding hairline or larger forehead.
Try this out and see what you get
Here is a photograph of a trans woman’s forehead feminization journey. It appears she got curtain bangs to mask the appearance of her masculine square-like hairline and round it out. It also looks like she got a brow lift, which softened out her brow ridge. Some bone shaving may have been involved too, but I don’t know for sure. Overall, you can see how much the forehead can play into someone’s dimorphism.
Fun fact, women in the renaissance era would pluck their hairlines back to give themselves a bigger looking forehead. Some would even pluck their eyebrows along with it to complete the illusion. This was because having a larger looking forehead was linked with higher intelligence and youthfulness back then. It was considered feminine.
As you can see in this example, they repositioned the hairline lower, and it now looks more squarish than round and feminine. They even changed their haircut to something that widens their perceived facial width. The brows also look different and more masculine, since they added an implant.
https://plasticsurgerykey.com/forehead/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10325763/
Dakota Johnson is a prime example of somebody who uses this fraud, and how well it benefits her. Her forehead has become a meme online because she’s always in bangs, and they literally save her.
10/10 use of bangs
https://www.ulta.com/p/root-cover-u...070&gbraid=0AAAAAD9rLH67ugbhp6ZyojTV-DD4IuEz1
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Clairol-...ign_id=9383&sharedid=69bd6b83afba046196172309
https://getboldify.com/products/bol...sync&utm_source=google&variant=47037970153694
These are underrated and aren’t spoken about enough tbh.
https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/no-balding-any-more.80527/
Props to this user for making a perfect guide on this.
Hardmaxxing for upper third
Your forehead is one of the riskiest places to get plastic surgery (sorry to my fellow cosmetic DIY lovers out there), this might be the reason I haven’t really seen a post talking about surgeries for it
Even though it’s more nuanced than this, I’ve split the most common upper third issues into four cases. If you for some reason want more specialized advice on what surgeries to get, feel free to pm meee
Forehead lift
This procedure comes in many different techniques. Now the issue with this one is that it basically contains a brow lifting effect within itself, and we all know brow lifts can create an ugly looking eye area. But if you are a woman with a heavy looking, thick and/or wrinkly looking forehead, you might want to consider something like this. But so far I’d rank this surgery is at the bottom because the brow lifting part just makes me feel very iffy about it. I’d only reccommend this if you have a tophiachu looking forehead
Forehead filler
Here we have another risky surgery. This is where they inject any indentations of your forehead with fillers (HA are the best kind). This treatment is actually somewhat popular in Asia, branded as the “Barbie forehead” treatment. But although fillers can be fun, your forehead is by far one of the most dangerous places to get injected. If you’re familiar with plastic surgery treatments, this fact is probably water to you. It’s not like chin or lips where there’s good blood flow and lack of major artery connections. Your forehead contains many important arteries that connect to your eyeballs. The closer you are to the glabella/central forehead, the higher risk you are of going blind. Since they have straighter pathways to the ocular region. The lateral forehead is a safer spot to be injected, but it is definitely not risk free. So this surgery would be better for someone with a brow ridge, sloped forehead they’d like to smooth out.
Bone cement
I feel like I don’t hear about this material a lot, but bone cement is more for aggressive structural changes. This is used frequently in gender affirming surgeries (as I spoke about) to reshape convexities and forehead contour. This is surgical, so you’d have to go under anesthesia for this one. They create an incision on the scalp and fill in the desired areas. PMMA (standard bone cement material) works by hardening onto the bone in a matter of minutes by polymerization. It’s highly regulated and FDA approved, so this is one of the safest options.
Brow ridge implant
This is definitely a more well known procedure. A brow ridge implant will transform your eye area into something more fierce. It’s commonly used for men since it’s a dimorphic staple for them, but women can obviously still have them too. They can be customized with silicone, PEEK, PMMA, HA cement, and more. The incision can be done in the hairline or the upper brow, here’s a result I found that was visibly done on the upper brow. The scar doesn’t look too bad to me, if anything it looks like one of those forehead lines adults develop.
I’d suggest an incision through the hairline since it’d be easier to hide. Aside from the scar, the implant looks great.
Forehead fat grafting
For fat transfer on the forehead, they’d harvest some fat from another part of your body and inject it in your forehead as usual. Nanofat is recommended to improve minimal things like fine lines, while microfat (a thicker substance) is recommended for lost volume. Many women get this for their temples too.
Look at this aesthetic transformation, ignore how recessed she is. This procedure was completely necessary. We undermine how important the forehead is.
Luckily I haven’t found any complaints on forehead fat grafting and I’ve seen plenty of good results. Just remember usual protocol, not all the fat will survive. So make sure to overfill.
Bone shaving
If you have a Neanderthal tier protruding brow ridge as a woman, or a caillou looking bulbous forehead as a male, bone shaving is always an option. You can shave down basically anywhere on the forehead. Lots of trans women get their brow ridge shaved.
Hairline lowering
This surgery is perfect for people with naturally high foreheads. They’ll cut your hairline, advance it forward and get rid of the excess skin. When it comes to these surgeries that are messing with moving your scalp around, having high scalp laxity is key. If your scalp laxity is low, the procedure will be challenging and you may be recommended to switch to something else. You can find many methods online to measure your scalp laxity beforehand (the Mayer Paul method, pinch test, manual palpitation etc).
Hair transplant
The sound of this surgery is a bit disturbing, but it’s definitely better than what I thought it would be like. A hair transplant surgery is when they take hair follicles from thicker areas and somehow implant them back into the scalp wherever you’d want them to be. This is ideal for people with badly receded hairlines. It comes in two different methods, FUE and FUT. Follicular unit extraction is exactly what it sounds like, it’s extracting individual hair follicles from the scalp. Follicular unit transplantation (the less popular option) on the other hand is taking a strip from your scalp and implementing the follicles from the strip into your hair. Both methods are effective, but FUT works faster and it’s cheaper. Another key difference is FUT will leave you with a scar (as expected) and it’s the more painful procedure. Requiring local anesthesia.
I was looking up hairline lowering on google and found this picture. This woman’s forehead is trannypilled and she took a bad approach to fixing it. She decided to lower her hairline in one specific area which completely changed her circular hairline into a masculine looking rectangular one. She unironically looked more feminine before (she’s wearing no makeup in the first and makeup in the second). We can see from this angle she also deals with the appearance of a sloped forehead (male ideal for the millionth time). What she should’ve done was shave down her thick brow ridge and maybe consider some sort of barbie forehead filling treatment.
Summary:
Case A: Hairline lowering
Case B: FUE, FUT
Case C: Forehead lift, bone cement, filler, fat grafting, bone shaving
Case D: Fat grafting, bone shaving, brow ridge implant
If you are reading this and don’t have a fucked upper third, think of it as some life fuel
@ecoli @draftLexy @</3 @Glamour @RRM
I’ll provide an example of a male celeb.
Don’t get me wrong I love Jesse pinkman, but have you ever found his appearance to be a bit off? Well most of us realize it’s something to do with his forehead. It’s not only the fact that he has a high forehead, but his frontal bone is giga rounded. Which is a feminine ideal, not a masculine one. There’s no slope to his forehead. Due to its roundness there’s absolutely no contrast highlighting his brow bone. His big upper third has caused skewed ratios as well. His temporal width is greater than his bigonial width, and his temples are about the same width as his zygos. Creating a hydrocephalus crack baby type silhouette
. All in all, I can barely name anything good about his forehead other than his somewhat square like hairline shape. Do you see what I mean now? A foreheads impact on someone’s appearance is immense.The finger test
The probability that you’ve tried this is high, I know this has surfaced around the internet a lot. The finger test is where you can see how many fingers you can horizontally fit on your forehead. 3-4 is usually normal, but anything above that can signal a receding hairline or larger forehead.
Try this out and see what you get
Although it may be tricky to tell between the two, a high forehead and a receding hairline are two different things. A receding hairline deals with actual hair loss/thinning, but a high forehead is just a taller than average frontal bone. You can usually tell which one you have by how the hair at your hairline appears. Is there uneven thinning with miniaturized hairs at the temples or does the hair look even and thick at the edges? If you deal with an M shaped hairline/thinning at the temples it’s a receding hairline. If your hair texture is the same around your hairline, it’s a high forehead.
Ideals
your upper third should be around the same size as your other facial thirds.
A lot of people underestimate the power of the upper third on your sexual dimorphism. As it is one of the most important gender affirming surgeries among trans people.Women:
In the bigger picture, women generally have smaller skulls than men do. As well as frontal bones that are more rounded than a man’s, and a high cranial top/vertical calvarial thickness. Keeping that in mind, a slightly convex forehead with a circular hairline and minimal brow ridge projection is the female ideal. From the side profile, it is either rounded or straighter. But if it deals with prominent indentation or slope-iness, it’s gonna look masculine and weird.Here is a photograph of a trans woman’s forehead feminization journey. It appears she got curtain bangs to mask the appearance of her masculine square-like hairline and round it out. It also looks like she got a brow lift, which softened out her brow ridge. Some bone shaving may have been involved too, but I don’t know for sure. Overall, you can see how much the forehead can play into someone’s dimorphism.
Fun fact, women in the renaissance era would pluck their hairlines back to give themselves a bigger looking forehead. Some would even pluck their eyebrows along with it to complete the illusion. This was because having a larger looking forehead was linked with higher intelligence and youthfulness back then. It was considered feminine.

Men:
The frontal bone on the average male skull tends to be more sloped back, and horizontally/vertically wider than a woman’s. From the side, males have a more prominent brow ridge causing more abrupt changes in contour. Causing a more acute nasofrontal angle. (Ideal falling between 115°-130). So overall, a sloped forehead with a square-like hairline and a prominent brow ridge is the male ideal. Your bigonial width should be no narrower than your bitemporal width, and you can get away with your bigonial width being a bit wider (although it will give you an ogre-ish appearance). Your temples should also be narrower than your zygos, or else you’ll end up with a caillou looking head shape.As you can see in this example, they repositioned the hairline lower, and it now looks more squarish than round and feminine. They even changed their haircut to something that widens their perceived facial width. The brows also look different and more masculine, since they added an implant.
https://plasticsurgerykey.com/forehead/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10325763/
What can I myself do to help a fucked forehead?
- bangs/fringe
Dakota Johnson is a prime example of somebody who uses this fraud, and how well it benefits her. Her forehead has become a meme online because she’s always in bangs, and they literally save her.
10/10 use of bangs
- hair concealer/root spray
https://www.ulta.com/p/root-cover-u...070&gbraid=0AAAAAD9rLH67ugbhp6ZyojTV-DD4IuEz1
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Clairol-...ign_id=9383&sharedid=69bd6b83afba046196172309
https://getboldify.com/products/bol...sync&utm_source=google&variant=47037970153694
These are underrated and aren’t spoken about enough tbh.
- fixing your lower third

- DHT inhibitors
https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/no-balding-any-more.80527/
Props to this user for making a perfect guide on this.
Hardmaxxing for upper third
Your forehead is one of the riskiest places to get plastic surgery (sorry to my fellow cosmetic DIY lovers out there), this might be the reason I haven’t really seen a post talking about surgeries for itEven though it’s more nuanced than this, I’ve split the most common upper third issues into four cases. If you for some reason want more specialized advice on what surgeries to get, feel free to pm meee
Forehead lift
This procedure comes in many different techniques. Now the issue with this one is that it basically contains a brow lifting effect within itself, and we all know brow lifts can create an ugly looking eye area. But if you are a woman with a heavy looking, thick and/or wrinkly looking forehead, you might want to consider something like this. But so far I’d rank this surgery is at the bottom because the brow lifting part just makes me feel very iffy about it. I’d only reccommend this if you have a tophiachu looking forehead

Forehead filler
Here we have another risky surgery. This is where they inject any indentations of your forehead with fillers (HA are the best kind). This treatment is actually somewhat popular in Asia, branded as the “Barbie forehead” treatment. But although fillers can be fun, your forehead is by far one of the most dangerous places to get injected. If you’re familiar with plastic surgery treatments, this fact is probably water to you. It’s not like chin or lips where there’s good blood flow and lack of major artery connections. Your forehead contains many important arteries that connect to your eyeballs. The closer you are to the glabella/central forehead, the higher risk you are of going blind. Since they have straighter pathways to the ocular region. The lateral forehead is a safer spot to be injected, but it is definitely not risk free. So this surgery would be better for someone with a brow ridge, sloped forehead they’d like to smooth out.
Bone cement
I feel like I don’t hear about this material a lot, but bone cement is more for aggressive structural changes. This is used frequently in gender affirming surgeries (as I spoke about) to reshape convexities and forehead contour. This is surgical, so you’d have to go under anesthesia for this one. They create an incision on the scalp and fill in the desired areas. PMMA (standard bone cement material) works by hardening onto the bone in a matter of minutes by polymerization. It’s highly regulated and FDA approved, so this is one of the safest options.
Brow ridge implant
This is definitely a more well known procedure. A brow ridge implant will transform your eye area into something more fierce. It’s commonly used for men since it’s a dimorphic staple for them, but women can obviously still have them too. They can be customized with silicone, PEEK, PMMA, HA cement, and more. The incision can be done in the hairline or the upper brow, here’s a result I found that was visibly done on the upper brow. The scar doesn’t look too bad to me, if anything it looks like one of those forehead lines adults develop.
I’d suggest an incision through the hairline since it’d be easier to hide. Aside from the scar, the implant looks great.
Forehead fat grafting
For fat transfer on the forehead, they’d harvest some fat from another part of your body and inject it in your forehead as usual. Nanofat is recommended to improve minimal things like fine lines, while microfat (a thicker substance) is recommended for lost volume. Many women get this for their temples too.
Look at this aesthetic transformation, ignore how recessed she is. This procedure was completely necessary. We undermine how important the forehead is.
Luckily I haven’t found any complaints on forehead fat grafting and I’ve seen plenty of good results. Just remember usual protocol, not all the fat will survive. So make sure to overfill.
Bone shaving
If you have a Neanderthal tier protruding brow ridge as a woman, or a caillou looking bulbous forehead as a male, bone shaving is always an option. You can shave down basically anywhere on the forehead. Lots of trans women get their brow ridge shaved.
Hairline lowering
This surgery is perfect for people with naturally high foreheads. They’ll cut your hairline, advance it forward and get rid of the excess skin. When it comes to these surgeries that are messing with moving your scalp around, having high scalp laxity is key. If your scalp laxity is low, the procedure will be challenging and you may be recommended to switch to something else. You can find many methods online to measure your scalp laxity beforehand (the Mayer Paul method, pinch test, manual palpitation etc).
Hair transplant
The sound of this surgery is a bit disturbing, but it’s definitely better than what I thought it would be like. A hair transplant surgery is when they take hair follicles from thicker areas and somehow implant them back into the scalp wherever you’d want them to be. This is ideal for people with badly receded hairlines. It comes in two different methods, FUE and FUT. Follicular unit extraction is exactly what it sounds like, it’s extracting individual hair follicles from the scalp. Follicular unit transplantation (the less popular option) on the other hand is taking a strip from your scalp and implementing the follicles from the strip into your hair. Both methods are effective, but FUT works faster and it’s cheaper. Another key difference is FUT will leave you with a scar (as expected) and it’s the more painful procedure. Requiring local anesthesia.
I was looking up hairline lowering on google and found this picture. This woman’s forehead is trannypilled and she took a bad approach to fixing it. She decided to lower her hairline in one specific area which completely changed her circular hairline into a masculine looking rectangular one. She unironically looked more feminine before (she’s wearing no makeup in the first and makeup in the second). We can see from this angle she also deals with the appearance of a sloped forehead (male ideal for the millionth time). What she should’ve done was shave down her thick brow ridge and maybe consider some sort of barbie forehead filling treatment.
Summary:
Case A: Hairline lowering
Case B: FUE, FUT
Case C: Forehead lift, bone cement, filler, fat grafting, bone shaving
Case D: Fat grafting, bone shaving, brow ridge implant
If you are reading this and don’t have a fucked upper third, think of it as some life fuel
@ecoli @draftLexy @</3 @Glamour @RRM
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