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[Michelangelo]

There are plenty of systems between capitalism and communism like democracy, mixed economies, any people who care about humanity over dirty ass greediness, why do you have to be so full of hate??? your sentence is so bpd coded cuz u only see extreme polarities

most countries today already have mixed economies and all of the most successful ones are clearly capitalistic. "capitalism le bad" simply doesnt mean anything unless you are clearly implying to love communism.
mf started to chimp out about israel and fascism while the whole thread was about economy yet says others are BPd coded and polarized.
if you are American expect more right wing voters in the incoming years. americans are the most privileged yet they call their own home shithole.

fuck palestine, if they were worth saving Egypt would have not built a wall to keep them away. America dont owe anything to the Jews either, fuck them too

 

[Hibiscus]

most countries today already have mixed economies and all of the most successful ones are clearly capitalistic. "capitalism le bad" simply doesnt mean anything unless you are clearly implying to love communism.
mf started to chimp out about israel and fascism while the whole thread was about economy yet says others are BPd coded and polarized.
if you are American expect more right wing voters in the incoming years.

fuck palestine, if they were worth saving Egypt would have not built a wall to keep them away. America dont owe anything to the Jews either, fuck them too

You keep pretending this is about economics while unironically screaming 'fuck Palestinians' and 'fuck Jews.' You’re not defending capitalism you’re using it as a costume for your hatred
Yes most countries have mixed economies, and that proves my point pure capitalism doesn’t work without regulation and public infrastructure. If you think calling that out means I ‘love communism,’ then your understanding of political systems is stuck in Cold War memes
Also, if you're hoping for more right-wing voters just so they can share your genocidal takes you're not defending a system you're begging for cruelty to be normalized like wtfff

 

[CHAD.]

During 9/11 was prime america tbh... me and my n*****s were searching all the people named abu or abdullah just to ask them questions thinking they had caused it... media spread racism during that period so me and hb started hunting all the muslims down... but now i regret it because we made their lives worse by bullying them

how old is bro

 

[Fart Reaper]

how old is bro

But that was somewhere in 2010, n***a my parents told me about it when I was 10 so i spread that shit like it happend yesterday and my n*****s believed me

 

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Except Palestine isn’t throwing stones at a bear, it’s a caged population throwing anything they can at the soldiers who’ve occupied their land for decades. Your analogy ignores context and flips oppressor into victim...your moral stance is: ‘If they hide behind civilians, we’ll just kill the civilians anyway so terrorists don’t think they can get away with it’? That’s not justice, that’s strategic mass murder wrapped in a justification Polling people who’ve lived under military siege for 17 years and watching their children die, then using their rage as justification for collective punishment,that’s textbook victim blaming. By that logic, no occupied people in history would deserve sympathy.You talk about nuance, but your version of justice conveniently justifies civilian deaths, generational punishment, and entire populations being bombed all under the flag of morality. That’s not nuance. That’s cowardice with vocabulary

im sorry, i only engage with coherent arguments, not word salads overflowing with libtard buzzwords.

but reminder: you were the one who brought palestine into the conversation when it had zero relevancy to what we were discussing. mirin the libtards brain's ability to latch onto the perceived favorable view of the "current thing" and use it as a shield when in a panic

 

[Hibiscus]

im sorry, i only engage with coherent arguments, not word salads overflowing with libtard buzzwords.

but reminder: you were the one who brought palestine into the conversation when it had zero relevancy to what we were discussing. mirin the libtards brain's ability to latch onto the perceived favorable view of the "current thing" and use it as a shield when in a panic

Oh sureeeee, i throw word sallads. the only reason i brought Palestine into the conversation is because i know you need to lack humanity and empathy to support Israel, that's the true spirit of capitalism

 

[Hibiscus]

im sorry, i only engage with coherent arguments, not word salads overflowing with libtard buzzwords.

but reminder: you were the one who brought palestine into the conversation when it had zero relevancy to what we were discussing. mirin the libtards brain's ability to latch onto the perceived favorable view of the "current thing" and use it as a shield when in a panic

At this point just admit you are evil and you love money and dehumanizing people

 

[*************************]

At this point just admit you are evil and you love money and dehumanizing people

they way I see it you are evil.

capitalism = incentive to work hard = bountiful and happy society

you seek to undermine the incentive structures which would inevitably lead to ruin and poverty (e.g. every communist nation ever)

 

[Michelangelo]

You keep pretending this is about economics while unironically screaming 'fuck Palestinians' and 'fuck Jews.' You’re not defending capitalism you’re using it as a costume for your hatred

just replying to your braindead answers, since you were the first wanting to make this about politics

Yeah but not for you pookie it's only for your daddies Trump, Elon and other failed abortions

gaslighting others saying they are full of hate while writing this, classic from someone that totally sounds like a libtard and is completely unaware.

Yes most countries have mixed economies, and that proves my point pure capitalism doesn’t work without regulation and public infrastructure.

me when i forget america have those things. lots of people would love to have communism back, sorry if you are this unaware to need to gaslight others into thinking its a meme.

 

[Hibiscus]

they way I see it you are evil.

capitalism = incentive to work hard = bountiful and happy society

you seek to undermine the incentive structures which would inevitably lead to ruin and poverty (e.g. every communist nation ever)

You say capitalism creates a happy and bountiful society but for who exactly? CEOs? Oil barons? Billionaires with private jets while the rest ration insulin?

I’m not against incentive I’m against cruelty being dressed up as motivation.You think it’s evil to ask for dignity, fairness, and a system that doesn’t reward exploitation, you are evil

 

[Michelangelo]

At this point just admit you are evil and you love money and dehumanizing people

another classic trait of these unaware people: just tell them they are evil, dont think about a rational reply just say they are bad

 

[Hibiscus]

just replying to your braindead answers, since you were the first wanting to make this about politics

gaslighting others saying they are full of hate while writing this, classic from someone that totally sounds like a libtard and is completely unaware.

me when i forget america have those things. lots of people would love to have communism back, sorry if you are this unaware to need to gaslight others into thinking its a meme.

Oh i am sorry that i hate Trump, Elon and other bastards who use people's taxes to buy private jets oh i should be more careful and walk on tip toes, Mixed economy ≠ communism. Read one book

 

[Hibiscus]

another classic trait of these unaware people: just tell them they are evil, dont think about a rational reply just say they are bad

then put glasses or read my full reply

 

[*************************]

You say capitalism creates a happy and bountiful society but for who exactly? CEOs? Oil barons? Billionaires with private jets while the rest ration insulin?

I’m not against incentive I’m against cruelty being dressed up as motivation.You think it’s evil to ask for dignity, fairness, and a system that doesn’t reward exploitation, you are evil

your average person is better off in a capitalist society

resources are scarce, we need to distribute them amongst the population. everyone cannot have everything. capitalism has good incentive structures so we have a bigger pie to divvy up and on average everyone gets a bigger slice

economics 101

 

[Hibiscus]

your average person is better off in a capitalist society

resources are scarce, we need to distribute them amongst the population. everyone cannot have everything. capitalism has good incentive structures so we have a bigger pie to divvy up and on average everyone gets a bigger slice

economics 101

A bigger pie’ means nothing when the top 1% eats half of it before the rest even sit at the table. You talk about scarcity, but we don’t have a scarcity of resources. We have a scarcity of justice, fair distribution, and accountability. Capitalism may create wealth, but it concentrates it. That’s the issue!!! Read this a few times before you answer

 

[*************************]

A bigger pie’ means nothing when the top 1% eats half of it before the rest even sit at the table. You talk about scarcity, but we don’t have a scarcity of resources. We have a scarcity of justice, fair distribution, and accountability. Capitalism may create wealth, but it concentrates it. That’s the issue!!! Read this a few times before you answer

can you try not using chatgpt

 

[Hibiscus]

can you try not using chatgpt

Answer me if you are really such a smart and handsome and young Arnold Schwarzenegger lookalike right winger pookie

 

[*************************]

Answer me if you are really such a smart and handsome and young Arnold Schwarzenegger lookalike right winger pookie

that's the problem. what "you" wrote is so npc there is no actual content to refute.

 

[*************************]

wealth inequality is fairness, the ceo earns more because he works harder and produces more value for society. concentrated wealth is by design in capitalism, it is not a fault.

but on average people are still better off

 

[Hibiscus]

wealth inequality is fairness, the ceo earns more because he works harder and produces more value for society. concentrated wealth is by design in capitalism, it is not a fault.

but on average people are still better off

CEOs aren’t working so much harder than the people delivering their packages or cleaning their offices.Let’s be real that wealth inequality isn’t fair and it's used as power hoarding if you aren't blind. Just because some people are better off it doesn't mean the system is fair, it only means that the bar is so low that people have to celebrate survival like it is a luxury

 

[*************************]

CEOs aren’t working so much harder than the people delivering their packages or cleaning their offices.Let’s be real that wealth inequality isn’t fair and it's used as power hoarding if you aren't blind. Just because some people are better off it doesn't mean the system is fair, it only means that the bar is so low that people have to celebrate survival like it is a luxury

then why don't the cleaners and delivery drivers quit and become CEOs? oh wait...

 

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[Hibiscus]

then why don't the cleaners and delivery drivers quit and become CEOs? oh wait...

Yeah pookie why doesn’t every janitor just magically gain capital, connections, and generational wealth and instantly become a CEO? Wild that it’s almost like the system isn’t built to allow that lmfaoooo

Not everyone can be a boss because someone still has to do the labor you depend on

 

[Hibiscus]

 

[Michelangelo]

Oh i am sorry that i hate Trump, Elon and other bastards who use people's taxes to buy private jets

did that just happened inside your head? uhh Elon musk bad too now ig (it was cool real life iron man before)

CEOs aren’t working so much harder than the people delivering their packages or cleaning their offices.Let’s be real that wealth inequality isn’t fair and it's used as power hoarding if you aren't blind. Just because some people are better off it doesn't mean the system is fair, it only means that the bar is so low that people have to celebrate survival like it is a luxury

yeah its impossible, not like anybody became a millionare in America, imagine that happening

 

[*************************]

Yeah pookie why doesn’t every janitor just magically gain capital, connections, and generational wealth and instantly become a CEO? Wild that it’s almost like the system isn’t built to allow that lmfaoooo

Not everyone can be a boss because someone still has to do the labor you depend on

you are avoiding the correct answer because it is inconvenient to your ideology

the reality is that the cleaner and delivery driver do not possess the skills or knowledge to run a multibillion dollar company (and in the extremely unlikely event that they do, capitalism gives them the opporuntity to have a go themselves)

 

[Hibiscus]

you are avoiding the correct answer because it is inconvenient to your ideology

the reality is that the cleaner and delivery driver do not possess the skills or knowledge to run a multibillion dollar company (and in the extremely unlikely event that they do, capitalism gives them the ability to start their own company)

No one’s saying every cleaner should run a multibillion dollar company, that’s a strawman. The point is that the system relies on those workers every single day, but doesn’t pay them enough to live with dignity.
You can acknowledge that CEOs have specialized skills without pretending that the people cleaning their bathrooms are disposable

 

[slopslinger]

jew vs jew

this

 

[Hibiscus]

did that just happened inside your head? uhh Elon musk bad too now ig (it was cool real life iron man before)

yeah its impossible, not like anybody became a millionare in America, imagine that happening

i don't care who is a millionare i want everybody to have money, not just survive

 

[Michelangelo]

i don't care who is a millionare i want everybody to have money, not just survive

not everybody works, but im sure you would love to welcome millions of illegals and give them benefits like America have been doing for many years

 

[*************************]

No one’s saying every cleaner should run a multibillion dollar company, that’s a strawman. The point is that the system relies on those workers every single day, but doesn’t pay them enough to live with dignity.
You can acknowledge that CEOs have specialized skills without pretending that the people cleaning their bathrooms are disposable

they are dispoable, it's a low skill job. it pays what the market clears, bounded by minimum wage.

if anyone can do your job, it will have a low compensation. this is basic supply and demand.

 

[*************************]

do you not realize that if cleaners were paid CEO salaries then society would collpase overnight? you cant be this retarded right?

 

[Nenestar]

you are avoiding the correct answer because it is inconvenient to your ideology

the reality is that the cleaner and delivery driver do not possess the skills or knowledge to run a multibillion dollar company (and in the extremely unlikely event that they do, capitalism gives them the ability to start their own company)

That`s kinda simple. There`re effects like Matthew Effect, Cantillon Effect that fuck the poor from the start.

I agree Capitalism is the best system but lets not kid ourselves believing it`s equal ground. And no point bringing up outliers, this affects the majority.

 

[Hibiscus]

not everybody works, but im sure you would love to welcome millions of illegals and give them benefits like America have been doing for many years

Wanting people not to live in poverty is not wanting to hand out cash to everyone who walks in. That’s just you avoiding the point again. Most undocumented immigrants actually work brutal jobs that your average citizen wouldn’t touch and pay taxes without even getting benefits
But sure let’s keep pretending it’s poor immigrants draining the system and not billionaires dodging taxes while underpaying the workers who hold everything up

 

[Hibiscus]

they are dispoable, it's a low skill j*b. it pays what the market clears, bounded by minimum wage.

if anyone can do your j*b, it will have a low compensation. this is basic supply and demand.

No one said cleaners should be paid like CEOs.The point is they shouldn't have to work 3 jobs just to survive.Saying their work is low skill doesn’t change the fact that society collapses without them but somehow they get the lowest respect, lowest pay, and the highest risk

 

[*************************]

No one said cleaners should be paid like CEOs.The point is they shouldn't have to work 3 j*bs just to survive.Saying their work is low skill doesn’t change the fact that society collapses without them but somehow they get the lowest respect, lowest pay, and the highest risk

i dont think you understand how economics works.

if being a cleaner was that bad then people would quit, there would be a lower supply of labor, and hence conditions and pay would rise in response as the vacancies still need to be filled. the market is self correcting in this regard

 

[Altruist]

just lol. peak cinema itt

 

[slopslinger]

they are dispoable, it's a low skill j*b. it pays what the market clears, bounded by minimum wage.

if anyone can do your j*b, it will have a low compensation. this is basic supply and demand.

social contract theory. when a govt start letting enough people starve it usually isn't around for much longer. regardless of what the market does, widespread poverty doesn't serve market economics.

 

[Hibiscus]

i dont think you understand how economics works.

if being a cleaner was that bad then people would quit, there would be a lower supply of labor, and hence conditions and pay would rise in response as the vacancies still need to be filled. the market is self correcting in this regard

You’re describing a fantasy market where people can just walk away from poverty like it’s optional. In reality, rent is due, food costs money, and healthcare isn’t free. People stay in bad jobs not because they love them but because the alternative is homelessness.

 

[Hibiscus]

social contract theory. when a govt start letting enough people starve it usually isn't around for much longer. regardless of what the market does, widespread poverty doesn't serve market economics.

Finally someone smart here

 

[*************************]

You’re describing a fantasy market where people can just walk away from poverty like it’s optional. In reality, rent is due, food costs money, and healthcare isn’t free. People stay in bad j*bs not because they love them but because the alternative is homelessness.

another reason capitalism is awesome! there are strong incentives to stay employed, so everyone ends up contributing in some way

 

[thorns]

social contract theory. when a govt start letting enough people starve it usually isn't around for much longer. regardless of what the market does, widespread poverty doesn't serve market economics.

then comes capitalism greatest defense mechanism: fascism.

 

[Nati]

Ts argument is so funny

 

[Hibiscus]

another reason capitalism is awesome! there are strong incentives to stay employed, so everyone ends up contributing in some way

You’re literally saying capitalism is awesome because people are scared to starve. That’s coercion. People contribute not because the system uplifts them, but because they have no other option lol
A truly good system wouldn’t need to scare people to function

 

[SubhumanEyes]

A truly good system wouldn’t need to scare people to function

zionism

 

[slopslinger]

then comes capitalism greatest defense mechanism: fascism.

idk I guess, things will have to get a lot worse before anything happens.

 

[thorns]

idk I guess, things will have to get a lot worse before anything happens.

what i mean is that when capitalism begins to collapse, fascism puts on its uniform. not that it will happen any time soon

 

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A truly good system wouldn’t need to scare people to function

impossible without abundance (which we dont have)

 

[SubhumanEyes]

just make america zionist tbh..

 

[Nati]

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