What’s worse hookup or purity culture

[Garce]

Personally I think purity culture because it comes from misogyny but I hate both

 

[Garce]

Bump

 

[SILVER]

whats worse the devil or an angel

 

[Deleted Member 108588]

Both shit, just be normal theory.

 

[Garce]

whats worse the devil or an angel

How is purity culture an angel

 

[Garce]

Both shit, just be normal theory.

For sure both are shit but still which is worse

 

[SILVER]

How is purity culture an angel

theyve done nothing wrong

 

[Garce]

theyve done nothing wrong

They’re pushing purity down people’s throat , sewing a woman do her husband can “rip her at marriage” .
Comes from misogyny and makes People not feel comfortable about having sex even if it’s not with their long term partner if they’re not married and religious.
it basically saying to a woman she’s worthless if she’s not a virgin

 

[vespertine]

why does "coming from misogyny" make it bad?

 

[Ghoultune]

Purity culture but I think hookup culture is more prevalent today or in 1st world countries

 

[kimothy]

both

 

[SILVER]

They’re pushing purity down people’s throat , sewing a woman do her husband can “rip her at marriage” .
Comes from misogyny and makes People not feel comfortable about having sex even if it’s not with their long term partner if they’re not married and religious.
it basically saying to a woman she’s worthless if she’s not a virgin

meh tbh if youre having sex out of wedlock you will be sent to the devil

 

[Garce]

why does "coming from misogyny" make it bad?

Wouldn’t except much from someone who puts a r4pe bible verse in their profile.

 

[vespertine]

Wouldn’t except much from someone who puts a r4pe bible verse in their profile.

sounds like you're just upset that your gender is unable to obtain power due to their own inadequacies

 

[sociopath]

Wouldn’t except much from someone who puts a r4pe bible verse in their profile.

burn him at the stake queen, flip the narrative and write your own history

anyways hookup culture is obviously worse

 

[Garce]

sounds like you're just upset that your gender is unable to obtain power due to their own inadequacies

That’s a strange thing to say out loud , didn’t address my point at all - just blamed an entire gender.
Do you usually replace thinking with contempt or was today special?
You sound like the type of person to steal your wife’s works to make yourself famous when women didn’t have rights.

 

[vespertine]

That’s a strange thing to say out loud , didn’t address my point at all - just blamed an entire gender.
Do you usually replace thinking with contempt or was today special?
You sound like the type of person to steal your wife’s works to make yourself famous when women didn’t have rights.

maybe if women didn't whine about "misogyny" all the time they'd have more say in society

 

[Garce]

burn him at the stake queen, flip the narrative and write your own history

anyways hookup culture is obviously worse

Flip the narrative
He just said misogyny is good what am i supposed to say? Isn’t it obvious that nothing I will argue about her will change this stupid mindset

 

[vespertine]

Flip the narrative
He just said misogyny is good what am i supposed to say? Isn’t it obvious that nothing I will argue about her will change this stupid mindset

when did i say misogyny was good? all i asked for was an explanation of how exactly misogyny makes purity culture bad

 

[Garce]

maybe if women didn't whine about "misogyny" all the time they'd have more say in society

You’re so uneducated it hurts my soul genuinely.
If women didn’t argue and fight misogyny they wouldn’t even have any rights till this day, you can go read some history before spreading an opinion you’re uneducated about

 

[Garce]

when did i say misogyny was good? all i asked for was an explanation of how exactly misogyny makes purity culture bad

Because misogyny is bad in general , anything driven by misogyny isn’t good to an entire gender or half of the world population.

 

[Garce]

misogyny is women's own fault....would you believe me if i said this......

You can try to explain .
But history shows different

 

[Deleted Member 99084]

sounds like you're just upset that your gender is unable to obtain power due to their own inadequacies

js curious, why did u put that exact verse

 

[vespertine]

You’re so uneducated it hurts my soul genuinely.
If women didn’t argue and fight misogyny they wouldn’t even have any rights till this day, you can go read some history before spreading an opinion you’re uneducated about

women have gotten rights due to the motivations of elites. bringing women into formal labor doubled the available workforce. it reduced bargaining power of labor as a whole. increased total taxable income. its less due to women whining that they have power and more due to economic returns.

 

[vespertine]

women have gotten rights due to the motivations of elites. bringing women into formal labor doubled the available workforce. it reduced bargaining power of labor as a whole. increased total taxable income. its less due to women whining that they have power and more due to economic returns.

sorry

 

[fashist]

You’re so uneducated it hurts my soul genuinely.
If women didn’t argue and fight misogyny they wouldn’t even have any rights till this day, you can go read some history before spreading an opinion you’re uneducated about

maybe they dont need rights

 

[Chifuyu]

Hookup culture by far. It’s scientifically proven that having sex alters pair-bonding. People with worse pair-bonding ability (those who have sex with different people) have unstable marriages and a much higher divorce rate. I don’t see a problem with purity culture nor do I see how that leads to “misogyny”? Purity is gender-neutral, it applies to both men and women. Not only women.

 

[Starlet]

hookup culture imo

 

[Deleted Member 99084]

hookup culture

 

[TonyDr]

Personally I think purity culture because it comes from misogyny but I hate both

Complicated to say. There is depth and nuances.
Purity culture is outdated because it was an obligation for women to be virgin because no men wanted to take care of an another man's child back then (because there wasn't any birth control methods).

Now we could argue nowadays that wanting a woman with no dating traumas could be ideal to start a new relationship fresh.
I think i'm one of the many guys who wouldn't want to fight for a girl who is still stuck in the past, suffer from mental health issues from choosing the wrong ex-bf/ons.

For me i think the worst of the worsts is hookup culture, because it's an invention of the Patriarchy (as an entity who want to use and abuse women).
Think about it : They haven't found a cure to endometriosis BUT they found a cure to temporarily sterilize women to have sex consequences-free (for men, let's not talk about BC's side effects), gaslighted them through medias, social medias and culture that letting men getting what they want (sex) WITHOUT any sign of respect, commitment and genuine interest toward women as a person, someone with feelings, personality, depth, while having a skyrocketting amount of sexual frustration because yes, those men don't care about you & your pleasure they'll care about them first, alongside a skyrocketting amount of sexual traumas, who lead to mental health issues.

 

[Starlet]

Complicated to say. There is depth and nuances.
Purity culture is outdated because it was an obligation for women to be virgin because no men wanted to take care of an another man's child back then (because there wasn't any birth control methods).

Now we could argue nowadays that wanting a woman with no dating traumas could be ideal to start a new relationship fresh.
I think i'm one of the many guys who wouldn't want to fight for a girl who is still stuck in the past, suffer from mental health issues from choosing the wrong ex-bf/ons.

For me i think the worst of the worsts is hookup culture, because it's an invention of the Patriarchy (as an entity who want to use and abuse women).
Think about it : They haven't found a cure to endometriosis BUT they found a cure to temporarily sterilize women to have sex consequences-free (for men, let's not talk about BC's side effects), gaslighted them through medias, social medias and culture that letting men getting what they want (sex) WITHOUT any sign of respect, commitment and genuine interest toward women as a person, someone with feelings, personality, depth, while having a skyrocketting amount of sexual frustration because yes, those men don't care about you & your pleasure they'll care about them first, alongside a skyrocketting amount of sexual traumas, who lead to mental health issues.

thank you for explaining shit more in depth when I don’t feel like it, also @Gengar

 

[Chifuyu]

Complicated to say. There is depth and nuances.
Purity culture is outdated because it was an obligation for women to be virgin because no men wanted to take care of an another man's child back then (because there wasn't any birth control methods).

Now we could argue nowadays that wanting a woman with no dating traumas could be ideal to start a new relationship fresh.
I think i'm one of the many guys who wouldn't want to fight for a girl who is still stuck in the past, suffer from mental health issues from choosing the wrong ex-bf/ons.

For me i think the worst of the worsts is hookup culture, because it's an invention of the Patriarchy (as an entity who want to use and abuse women).
Think about it : They haven't found a cure to endometriosis BUT they found a cure to temporarily sterilize women to have sex consequences-free (for men, let's not talk about BC's side effects), gaslighted them through medias, social medias and culture that letting men getting what they want (sex) WITHOUT any sign of respect, commitment and genuine interest toward women as a person, someone with feelings, personality, depth, while having a skyrocketting amount of sexual frustration because yes, those men don't care about you & your pleasure they'll care about them first, alongside a skyrocketting amount of sexual traumas, who lead to mental health issues.

Since you mentioned medicinal stuff… I want them to bring out a male version of the pill. I’d take that.

 

[Chifuyu]

thank you for explaining shit more in depth when I don’t feel like it, also @Gengar

Thanks yeah @TonyDr did a great job at it.

Ngl I was expecting people to say purity culture is worse because hookup culture is praised in circles like .org

I’ve gotten into arguments w dudes online even in religious circles because they somehow think it’s only bad when women have premarital sex. They’re so hypocritical. They have premarital sex themselves but demonize women for doing the same thing.

I have rejected hookup culture but being ugly helps because that stops me from getting unwanted attention

 

[iletheile]

Both nromal is ok both ate like wmextremes and that's extreme like that eS extreme one extrem yes one extreme

 

[iletheile]

Personally I think purity culture because it comes from misogyny but I hate both

Is Garce really a concomyt

 

[Garce]

Thanks yeah @TonyDr did a great job at it.

Ngl I was expecting people to say purity culture is worse because hookup culture is praised in circles like .org

I’ve gotten into arguments w dudes online even in religious circles because they somehow think it’s only bad when women have premarital sex. They’re so hypocritical. They have premarital sex themselves but demonize women for doing the same thing.

I have rejected hookup culture but being ugly helps because that stops me from getting unwanted attention

That’s why I said purity is worse imo, because mostly people take it as only for women.
If it was for women and men in society then easily hookup culture would’ve been my answer.
I do think both are Terrible

 

[Garce]

Is Garce really a concomyt

What does it mean

 

[TonyDr]

I want them to bring out a male version of the pill. I’d take that.

We already had that convo if i remember correctly, rn the male pill has side effects like ED, libido loss and fertility reboost issues... like the womens pill, we just can't see it.

Hence why it's sad that girls use it to entertain hook-up culture

And that's why my fiancée isn't on the pill anymore and i rather have a rubber, me losing a bit of sensation isn't a bad thing, while she no longer suffer from side effects

 

[iletheile]

What does it mean

Is garce a xoconut brand

 

[rand anon]

culture because it comes from misogyny

Elab

 

[Garce]

Is garce a xoconut brand

Someone once posted a coconut water bottle that was written grace on as the brand so I guess so yeah , it was funny they tagged me I don’t remember who did this.

 

[Chifuyu]

That’s why I said purity is worse imo, because mostly people take it as only for women.
If it was for women and men in society then easily hookup culture would’ve been my answer.
I do think both are Terrible

Ohhhh! Okay, yeah now I get where you’re coming from, looks like I misunderstood it. Now I get why you think it’s misogynistic. If purity culture is defined as “women should be pure, but men can do what they want” then that’s inherently misogynistic because it discriminates against women. Personally, I thought purity culture came down to the idea that people should refrain from premarital sex. And that applies to everyone, regardless of gender. I’m a dateless 30 year old virgin myself. I am unbothered by it because I’m saving myself for marriage, yet the irony is that I’m uninterested in anyone at the same time. I’m a walking contradiction.

 

[Chifuyu]

Elab

I misunderstood it as well. Purity culture, in OP’s view, is seen as a culture where women are demonized for having sex, whereas the rule doesn’t apply to men. In hookup culture, women aren’t demonized for having sex. That’s why she thinks hookup culture is better and purity culture comes from misogyny. That’s what I concluded after speaking to her just now.

 

[Chifuyu]

We already had that convo if i remember correctly, rn the male pill has side effects like ED, libido loss and fertility reboost issues... like the womens pill, we just can't see it.

Hence why it's sad that girls use it to entertain hook-up culture

And that's why my fiancée isn't on the pill anymore and i rather have a rubber, me losing a bit of sensation isn't a bad thing, while she no longer suffer from side effects

I would still take that pill even if it comes at costs like that, but I’m in the minority of people who doesn’t want kids. I’m open to adopting though but idk if I should adopt someone when I’m single. Maybe I should stick to keeping a pet or something.

Btw your fiancée is lucky to have you, you’re a good partner for thinking that way and “sacrificing” yourself so she doesn’t have to deal with negative consequences.

 

[Garce]

Ohhhh! Okay, yeah now I get where you’re coming from, looks like I misunderstood it. Now I get why you think it’s misogynistic. If purity culture is defined as “women should be pure, but men can do what they want” then that’s inherently misogynistic because it discriminates against women. Personally, I thought purity culture came down to the idea that people should refrain from premarital sex. And that applies to everyone, regardless of gender. I’m a dateless 30 year old virgin myself. I am unbothered by it because I’m saving myself for marriage, yet the irony is that I’m uninterested in anyone at the same time. I’m a walking contradiction.

You can just die virgin if that’s your wish, all your choice.
I don’t save myself for marriage and I’m not a virgin, lost it to my partner of 2.5 years.
But I do value intimacy and sex and wouldn’t have had it with someone I don’t love and in a long term relationship with .

 

[Garce]

I would still take that pill even if it comes at costs like that, but I’m in the minority of people who doesn’t want kids. I’m open to adopting though but idk if I should adopt someone when I’m single. Maybe I should stick to keeping a pet or something.

Btw your fiancée is lucky to have you, you’re a good partner for thinking that way and “sacrificing” yourself so she doesn’t have to deal with negative consequences.

Adopt a parrot , a pet for life

 

[TonyDr]

I’m a dateless 30 year old virgin myself. I am unbothered by it because I’m saving myself for marriage

Are you aware that at our age, we will most likely only find women who dated, so why preserving yourself and not like experimenting having a girlfriend, having sex, at least to know. In your case it would just frustrates me

 

[Chifuyu]

You can just die virgin if that’s your wish, all your choice.
I don’t save myself for marriage and I’m not a virgin, lost it to my partner of 2.5 years.
But I do value intimacy and sex and wouldn’t have had it with someone I don’t love and in a long term relationship with .

I don’t know what’s gonna happen to me, I will see haha. But yeah, each to their own. Keep in mind, my opinions are largely followed by religion. Like you say, it’s all your own choice. It only becomes bad when others try to guilt trip you for your choices. There are women in my (religious) circles who will try to guilt trip men like me, for example. Instead of respecting my choices.

 

[Chifuyu]

Adopt a parrot , a pet for life

Don’t parrots copy what they hear? I think for their own good it’s best they don’t repeat what I say.

 

[Garce]

Don’t parrots copy what they hear? I think for their own good it’s best they don’t repeat what I say.

buy one that’s speaking ability is low , most parrots don’t speak to much , or more correctly mimic.