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What’s your opinion on having kids

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Forcing existence into a world that you hate
Don't plan to ever have kids in this moment, from what I've heard and seen most women want to have a kid so preferably just one is enough for me. I kinda have that fear of not being responsible enough to raise another human being from scratch.
 
I get the argument of it can’t be immoral cause a person that doesn’t exist doesn’t have a consent right cause he doesn’t exist but still you get brought into life without consenting
I dont mind that

Would be worse to never be given a chance
 
You guys don’t think it’s kind of immoral
it is not immoral. it’s an essential part of life, the argument of ‘consent’ is entirely flawed
they have no will, there is no concept of consent for a fetus
you could argue so many things as immoral, you could say, why bring a child into this earth, if death is guaranteed?
why bring a child into this earth, given the state of the world?
that’s just the cycle of life, there’s no workaround, you shall do what you are inclined to as a human being
 
Even tho suffering is promised but pleasure isn’t
Even if most things, I would only not have kids if I wasn’t able to support them or I was guaranteed to bear children with some crippling condition

Even then for the second one, it’s mostly selfish
 
it is not immoral. it’s an essential part of life, the argument of ‘consent’ is entirely flawed
they have no will, there is no concept of consent for a fetus
you could argue so many things as immoral, you could say, why bring a child into this earth, if death is guaranteed?
why bring a child into this earth, given the state of the world?
that’s just the cycle of life, there’s no workaround, you shall do what you are inclined to as a human being
I know that’s literally what I said 2 replies above, but wouldn’t it make more sense to just not do it I mean I don’t see the point tbh both of you are going to die anyways after suffering most likely and you’re responsible for this

I can’t imagine bringing a human being into earth and then just tell him go work and get married or whatever and keep filling your life with shit even tho none of it will matter anyways just to repeat the cycle
 
I know that’s literally what I said 2 replies above, but wouldn’t it make more sense to just not do it I mean I don’t see the point tbh both of you are going to die anyways after suffering most likely and you’re responsible for this

I can’t imagine bringing a human being into earth and then just tell him go work and get married or whatever and keep filling your life with shit even tho none of it will matter anyways just to repeat the cycle
or the opposite, why not make what you can of life, even though pleasure is not guaranteed
do what you can to create it in your circumstances
 
or the opposite, why not make what you can of life, even though pleasure is not guaranteed
do what you can to create it in your circumstances
All of that is just some bs to fill your free time and to fulfill your biological needs in a life you didn’t even choose at the end of the day we are all just keeping ourselves busy until we die
 
All of that is just some bs to fill your free time and to fulfill your biological needs in a life you didn’t even choose at the end of the day we are all just keeping ourselves busy until we die
this mindset is what leads to depression, nihilistic depression
neglecting your biological needs is the ultimate suffering.
stop looking for a deeper meaning in life, there is none
do what you desire
 
this mindset is what leads to depression, nihilistic depression
neglecting your biological needs is the ultimate suffering.
stop looking for a deeper meaning in life, there is none
do what you desire
That’s literally what I tell everyone in other words “ just gaslight yourself into happiness “
 

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