Serious What I think a true democracy should be like.

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

First of all voting shouldn’t be a right for everyone. I used to say women shouldn’t be able to vote but now I will say people who wanna qualify for voting should be able to vote

But there are 2 things they would need to qualify.

First of all 0 welfare assistance. Letting people who live off welfare vote is the dumbest thing someone could come up with yet it’s reality

And secondly being responsible for any potential war the politicians they vote for start. If they voted they should be the ones to go idc if it’s a foid or a man. Foids have been living in a world where they get all the rights and no consequences which is due to the simp society the west is

If this system was put in place the world would be a better place votes would actually mean something from ppl who actually participate in society and aren’t just LDRING

 

[Br4va]

First of all voting shouldn’t be a right for everyone. I used to say women shouldn’t be able to vote but now I will say people who wanna qualify for voting should be able to vote

that won’t work in current day 1st world societies

 

[Hector of Troy]

highly educated people could still be biased ideologically
the reason foids are not used at war, in the frontlines or as operators etc
is not bc there's some conspiracy against men
it's because they're not made for it, and will be a net negative

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

highly educated people could still be biased ideologically
the reason foids are not used at war, in the frontlines or as operators etc
is not bc there's some conspiracy against men
it's because they're not made for it, and will be a net negative

Ppl treat this war argument like a meaningless little thing but in truth it’s very serious since even tho it’s rare and might not happen in ur life time when u vote as a Man U are signing a contract that whoever u pick to represent ur state, whatever mess they make u will be fighting in it rather u like it or not Jfl

In the law of the current country u inhabit if a war starts and ur over 18 and healthy they will draft u and if they get desperate even unhealthy

So women should not be able to vote if they can mindlessly affect the outcome of a country without holding this responsibility since u are essentially as a man paying for someone else’s bad choice who is getting fucked by chad abroad while ur dying

This is why I think voting should be a choice most foids wouldn’t wanna risk being drafted and any guy who doesn’t wanna participate shouldn’t either but can’t ever vote

 

[Hector of Troy]

Ppl treat this war argument like a meaningless little thing but in truth it’s very serious since even tho it’s rare and might not happen in ur life time when u vote as a Man U are signing a contract that whoever u pick to represent ur state, whatever mess they make u will be fighting in it rather u like it or not Jfl

In the law of the current country u inhabit if a war starts and ur over 18 and healthy they will draft u and if they get desperate even unhealthy

So women should not be able to vote if they can mindlessly affect the outcome of a country without holding this responsibility since u are essentially as a man paying for someone else’s bad choice who is getting fucked by chad abroad while ur dying

i'm not against women voting, alot of the arguments used against them could be used for so much of the male population, emotional, not very educated on history and politics etc

and non of these are really relevant, previous western nation states are now mere economic zones

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

that won’t work in current day 1st world societies

Then in my opinion all men need to protest by striking on working

The current western democracy is extremely unfair for men

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

i'm not against women voting, alot of the arguments used against them could be used for so much of the male population, emotional, not very educated on history and politics etc

and non of these are really relevant, previous western nation states are now mere economic zones

It’s not just about education atp it’s about responsibility

If some low iq liberal twink wants to vote and make bad choices at least he’s willing to die for them women can just fuck around like living on easy mode

This is also why I think the welfare part is important ppl on welfare shouldn’t get the option to vote at all those 2 things alone would filter out most of the low iq men and women

 

[Br4va]

Then in my opinion all men need to protest by striking on working

The current western democracy is extremely unfair for men

I wouldn’t say so. I think you should also understand that not every man should be able to vote. Not even majority

 

[turkson]

Voting doesnt do shit. Voting made sense during the time of the Greeks and Romans when the rulers actually cared about there kingdoms , when they needed some way to accelerate the advancement of there societies. Voting was needed so there wouldnt be someone with too much power. Nowadays people vote and if they "win" what happens? Well... nothing because nothing ever happens. Why does nothing ever happen. Because of a certain group of people pulling the strings who already decided what was gonna happen way before anyone "won".

 

[Hector of Troy]

It’s not just about education atp it’s about responsibility

If some low iq liberal twink wants to vote and make bad choices at least he’s willing to die for them women can just fuck around like living on easy mode

This is also why I think the welfare part is important ppl on welfare shouldn’t get the option to vote at all those 2 things alone would filter out most of the low iq men and women

what makes you think a liberal twink would be willing to die for his choices?
the most diehard conscious nationalists, are still too docile to take action against the things they dislike
responsibility is a spectrum, perhaps men are on average better, but there's alot of intersection

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

what makes you think a liberal twink would be willing to die for his choices?
the most diehard conscious nationalists, are still too docile to take action against the things they dislike
responsibility is a spectrum, perhaps men are on average better, but there's alot of intersection

n***a I think u don’t get it

On current society only women get that choice to run away if a man makes a bad decision he gotta go anyway look at Ukraine I have much more respect for his shitty vote once he gets forced into the front lines than the same women who made that vote and flees to Dubai to suck millionaire dick

It’s a simple concept idc how dumb the man or woman is as long as they are obligated to pay the consequences of their actions if they choose to qualify for voting (in my hypothetical democracy) than they get to be as dumb and liberal as they want and I won’t complain

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

what makes you think a liberal twink would be willing to die for his choices?
the most diehard conscious nationalists, are still too docile to take action against the things they dislike
responsibility is a spectrum, perhaps men are on average better, but there's alot of intersection

My problem isn’t only with the state of low iq ppl voting it’s more the unfairness of it all

U have 3rd generation immigrants who glaze their shithole live on welfare and get to vote and u have foids who won’t go to war and get to vote

That’s why the solution to 90% of the problem is

-no ppl on welfare vote

-ppl who vote have to participate in war

-citizens living abroad can’t vote

 

[Hector of Troy]

n***a I think u don’t get it

On current society only women get that choice to run away if a man makes a bad decision he gotta go anyway look at Ukraine I have much more respect for his shitty vote once he gets forced into the front lines than the same women who made that vote and flees to Dubai to suck millionaire dick

It’s a simple concept idc how dumb the man or woman is as long as they are obligated to pay the consequences of their actions if they choose to qualify for voting (in my hypothetical democracy) than they get to be as dumb and liberal as they want and I won’t complain

you're saying voting should be restricted to people who would be drafted at war time, that's why you originally said women should be drafted too, so thry would pay the consequences of their votes

i'm saying this is outdated, modern struggles are mostly not war

 

[turkson]

My problem isn’t only with the state of low iq ppl voting it’s more the unfairness of it all

U have 3rd generation immigrants who glaze their shithole live on welfare and get to vote and u have foids who won’t go to war and get to vote

That’s why the solution to 90% of the problem is

-no ppl on welfare vote

-ppl who vote have to participate in war

-citizens living abroad can’t vote

Wait but where is this democracy? Is it in a real country? Is it in 2026? In this hypothetical scenario would you be the founder of this democracy? Is it the usa? Ancient Rome? Bananaland?

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

you're saying voting should be restricted to people who would be drafted at war time, that's why you originally said women should be drafted too, so thry would pay the consequences of their votes

i'm saying this is outdated, modern struggles are mostly not war

Ok so this is what I think: ppl should be able to choose to vote if they want

And they could only qualify if they don’t get government money and sign a contract to go to war if they vote

That way 90% of foids would be willingly out and even the small % of 2nd generation immigrants who did qualify for this would be much more respected if they are contributing to the country and willing to die for it so they deserve their citizenship and right to vote

It would be perfect this is true democracy I need a Nobel prize for this shit

 

[Hector of Troy]

Ok so this is what I think: ppl should be able to choose to vote if they want

And they could only qualify if they don’t get government money and sign a contract to go to war if they vote

That way 90% of foids would be willingly out and even the small % of 2nd generation immigrants who did qualify for this would be much more respected if they are contributing to the country and willing to die for it so they deserve their citizenship and right to vote

It would be perfect this is true democracy I need a Nobel prize for this shit

okay, but why do you want such a large percentage of women to not vote

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

Wait but where is this democracy? Is it in a real country? Is it in 2026? In this hypothetical scenario would you be the founder of this democracy? Is it the usa? Ancient Rome? Bananaland?

Bro this is literally the best idea of all time unfortunately not in any country

I just hate the fact women get to vote and have no responsibility if a war breaks out, and that immigrants and lazy ppl with citizenship live off welfare and are able to vote

A woman and even a 2nd generation immigrants who gets no help from the government and is willing to participate in a war would be more than welcome to vote and they would earn it

Most of the high iq ppl are the ones who would wanna vote in this hypothetical scenario

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

okay, but why do you want such a large percentage of women to not vote

Its because they tend to vote opposite to men with most men being conservative leaning and women voting liberal

And while I don’t have anything against the diverging opinion between genders I think it’s unfair that men have to pay the hypothetical consequences for the women’s majority vote when they get to flee

It’s as simple as that it’s about fairness. And since in modern society we can’t realistically remove women from voting anymore I think this idea would be the next best thing, if a woman was willing to fight and also worked for a living she is more than welcome to making opposing votes as men

Basically most women and migrant vote feel undeserved currently

 

[turkson]

Bro this is literally the best idea of all time unfortunately not in any country

I just hate the fact women get to vote and have no responsibility if a war breaks out, and that immigrants and lazy ppl with citizenship live off welfare and are able to vote

A woman and even a 2nd generation immigrants who gets no help from the government and is willing to participate in a war would be more than welcome to vote and they would earn it

Most of the high iq ppl are the ones who would wanna vote in this hypothetical scenario

But what kinda people would be in power? Would it be like a leaderless democracy whede one group of the people organises things? Or would there be elections for a leader every so often? And how often would there be new elections for leader? Or would there be no elections? Would 1 person be emperor until death? Or would there be like 2 leaders like how the Romans had 2 senates and 1 election per year?

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

But what kinda people would be in power? Would it be like a leaderless democracy whede one group of the people organises things? Or would there be elections for a leader every so often? And how often would there be new elections for leader? Or would there be no elections? Would 1 person be emperor until death? Or would there be like 2 leaders like how the Romans had 2 senates and 1 election per year?

It would be like it is now citizens who want to join politics

The problem is currently many politicians appeal to minority votes by giving them welfare and easy citizenship that’s why the worse politicians keep importing a bunch of ppl from the 3rd world and handing them passports

It’s a very unfair society type beat

Jfl I’m not changing the vote just the ppl who can qualify any citizen willing to do those 2 things

 

[Hector of Troy]

Its because they tend to vote opposite to men with most men being conservative leaning and women voting liberal

And while I don’t have anything against the diverging opinion between genders I think it’s unfair that men have to pay the hypothetical consequences for the women’s majority vote when they get to flee

It’s as simple as that it’s about fairness. And since in modern society we can’t realistically remove women from voting anymore I think this idea would be the next best thing, if a woman was willing to fight and also worked for a living she is more than welcome to making opposing votes as men

instead of trying to restrict their voting, wouldn't it be better to de radicalize them or the next generations?
European women were voting more conservative compared to men in the 50s and 60s, it's not like women are hardwired to vote liberal
and you're exaggerating the gender divide in voting patterns
at least in the anglo saxon world, people are way more divided by racial lines than by gender
white men and women have both voted around the same 5% margin of each other in the last 5 elections
black woman and men always vote 80% or more liberal
same for other groups

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

instead of trying to restrict their voting, wouldn't it be better to de radicalize them or the next generations?
European women were voting more conservative compared to men in the 50s and 60s, it's not like women are hardwired to vote liberal
and you're exaggerating the gender divide in voting patterns
at least in the anglo saxon world, people are way more divided by racial lines than by gender
white men and women have both voted around the same 5% margin of each other in the last 5 elections
black woman and men always vote 80% or more liberal
same for other groups

I mean sure but my idea is so good and easy to maintain it would also be good for the men and women who don’t wanna die in war

Since ur not forced to vote but if u do wanna vote then u have to be aware of the responsibility both by working a job and having to serve

This is basically the best system and no need to keep radicalising women and messing with their nature in general since that can keep changing

The current vote loophole also allows politicians to import a bunch of 3rd worlders to live off welfare get a passport and vote for them to continue sucking money from the system

 

[turkson]

It would be like it is now citizens who want to join politics

The problem is currently many politicians appeal to minority votes by giving them welfare and easy citizenship that’s why the worse politicians keep importing a bunch of ppl from the 3rd world and handing them passports

It’s a very unfair society type beat

Jfl I’m not changing the vote just the ppl who can qualify any citizen willing to do those 2 things

So everything would be the same , people running for president , a senate or house of commons or whatever , the only difference is that whoever votes will be drafted for war and forced to go if there president wins and goes to war?

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

So everything would be the same , people running for president , a senate or house of commons or whatever , the only difference is that whoever votes will be drafted for war and forced to go if there president wins and goes to war?

Bro yall n*****s just rage bating me atp not even reading my thread and making me repeat myself

Not only go to war no welfare to qualify also

These 2 things alone would make 90% of the low iqs leave voting to the ppl who actually care

Such a simple concept u acting like it’s rocket science

 

[Hector of Troy]

I mean sure but my idea is so good and easy to maintain it would also be good for the men and women who don’t wanna die in war

Since ur not forced to vote but if u do wanna vote then u have to be aware of the responsibility

This is basically the best system and no need to keep radicalising women and messing with their nature in general since that can keep changing

The current vote loophole also allows politicians to import a bunch of 3rd worlders to live off welfare get a passport and vote for them to continue sucking money from the system

it's not terrible, but changing the voting system of any western nation that has been set for decades
is not within the realistic reach
politicians would import 3rd worlders anyways, the British always voted against mass migration and never wanted them
yet they're like the least white region in europe

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

it's not terrible, but changing the voting system of any western nation that has been set for decades
is not within the realistic reach
politicians would import 3rd worlders anyways, the British always voted against mass migration and never wanted them
yet they're like the least white region in europe

atp the whole system is fucked and I think it’s being done on purpose there’s basically 0 patriotism left from the guys in most western countries and they know exactly why

The reason I’m making this war thing so important now is because we are potentially close to a WW3 it’s not far fetched now but I don’t think ppl will be as excited as they were in ww2 to defend the shit in the US and Europe

 

[Br4va]

Bro this is literally the best idea of all time unfortunately not in any country

I just hate the fact women get to vote and have no responsibility if a war breaks out, and that immigrants and lazy ppl with citizenship live off welfare and are able to vote

Nah I agree with this. But tbf no war is happening any time soon

A woman and even a 2nd generation immigrants who gets no help from the government and is willing to participate in a war would be more than welcome to vote and they would earn it

Bro women wouldn’t do good in war tho?

Most of the high iq ppl are the ones who would wanna vote in this hypothetical scenario

I suppose

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

Nah I agree with this. But tbf no war is happening any time soon

Bro women wouldn’t do good in war tho?

I suppose

Ww3 isn’t that far fetched and at the end of the day it’s fairness since I assume most women would be too scared of a potential war to even wanna vote so it’s kinda a subtle way to remove them from politics overall

Which proves my point of this unfairness since war comes directly from politics so ppl who don’t have to participate shouldn’t be voting

Idk how u simps can’t see how unfair this is

 

[Br4va]

Ww3 isn’t that far fetched and at the end of the day it’s fairness since I assume most women would be too scared of a potential war to even wanna vote so it’s kinda a subtle way to remove them from politics overall

Yea women wouldn’t go to war.

Honestly your take makes more and more sense to me. If you can’t serve your country why should you vote ??? That’s not even taking into account iq , networth, and your career

Which proves my point of this unfairness since war comes directly from politics so ppl who don’t have to participate shouldn’t be voting

Idk how u simps can’t see how unfair this is

Yes

 

[unfortunate_interacter]

low iq ramblings

 

[Br4va]

low iq ramblings

Shhh

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

Yea women wouldn’t go to war.

Honestly your take makes more and more sense to me. If you can’t serve your country why should you vote ??? That’s not even taking into account iq , networth, and your career

Yes

Jfl this seems to be forgotten for most ppl but originally the only reason men could vote and women and children couldn’t is because the men were the ones that would go to war

After the era of mostly peace ppl forgot this and take voting as this meh thing just for the country but in the law rn if a war breaks in ur country and ur a man they will put u in the front lines u get no choice even if military is optional

 

[Br4va]

Jfl this seems to be forgotten for most ppl but originally the only reason men could vote and women and children couldn’t is because the men were the ones that would go to war

After the era of mostly peace ppl forgot this and take voting as this meh thing just for the country but in the law rn if a war breaks in ur country and ur a man they will put u in the front lines u get no choice even if military is optional

Peace made western civilization cucked

Like the saying

Hard times create strong men , strong men create easy times , easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times