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What would you guys consider hard maxing

Would you consider stuff like roids/peptides maybe Aqualyx hard maxing or would you only consider hard maxing surgery etc
Peptide are not hardmax
 
Just surgery, fillers too
Yeah i agree im going to get fillers soon so hopefully im not stuck in mtn hell once I hard max I think I should get htn im already close i think
 
Peptide are not hardmax
Yeah I agree would you consider hdac indicators a hard maxing since they alter genetics
 
roids and peptides are in that weird grey area
"yeah bro im gonna go take 6 ius of hgh and some other peptides to grow taller" doesn't sound like soft maxxing
Hgh and any peptide won’t break your maximum potential in everything (bone mass, height …) I mean in your late teen not your early one..
 
roids and peptides are in that weird grey area
"yeah bro im gonna go take 6 ius of hgh and some other peptides to grow taller" doesn't sound like soft maxxing
your not really changing genetics or anything your just boosting what your body already produces
 
Hgh and any peptide won’t break your maximum potential in everything (bone mass, height …)
the height part was a meme but abusing synthetic hgh will give you acromegaly like symptoms
 

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