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Scaled by how difficult they are, and they stack on top of each other. So , if you would go to 3, you likely would go to 1&2 as well. But not necessarily. It's in scales of difficult you might skip them might not
  1. Basic Frauding
  2. Basic softmaxxing
  3. Supplements
  4. High effort frauding
  5. Full dietary change
  6. Supplement megadosing
  7. High effort softmaxxing
  8. Peptides
  9. Low risk procedures
  10. Low risk actual surgeries
  11. Roids
  12. medium risk surgeries , could go wrong but likely to go right if you know what you're doing
  13. High risk surgery (lefort , OBO, LL)
 
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Scaled by how difficult they are, and they stack on top of each other. So , if you would go to 3, you likely would go to 1&2 as well. But not necessarily. It's in scales of difficult you might skip them might not
  1. Basic Frauding
  2. Basic softmaxxing
  3. Supplements
  4. High effort frauding
  5. Full dietary change
  6. Supplement megadosing
  7. High effort softmaxxing
  8. Peptides
  9. Low risk procedures
  10. Low risk actual surgeries
  11. Roids
  12. medium risk surgeries , could go wrong but likely to go right if you know what you're doing
  13. High risk surgery (lefort , OBO, LL)
all of them
 
-Looksmaxx

-Makes you age 10 times faster
-Makes you unattractive ogre for all females under 25
-Destroys your health completely (You can die from a heart attack at 35 y.o)
-Useless after 18 y.o
-Can lead to asymmetrical face bones (Yeah, not all roiders ascend their face bones. Some of them become even uglier)
 
-Looksmaxx

-Makes you age 10 times faster
-Makes you unattractive ogre for all females under 25
-Destroys your health completely (You can die from a heart attack at 35 y.o)
-Useless after 18 y.o
-Can lead to asymmetrical face bones (Yeah, not all roiders ascend their face bones. Some of them become even uglier)
Just use them strategically, and intelligently. These all happen if you misuse them
 
-Looksmaxx

-Makes you age 10 times faster
-Makes you unattractive ogre for all females under 25
-Destroys your health completely (You can die from a heart attack at 35 y.o)
-Useless after 18 y.o
-Can lead to asymmetrical face bones (Yeah, not all roiders ascend their face bones. Some of them become even uglier)
1) take ghk cu
2) not true look at loox jb experiemnt
3) doesn’t unless u use abusive doses for extended periods, look at arnold and many others who are fine
4) gives u muscles
5) wtf r u talking about
 
You don't know what are you doing yourself. You get information from online articles and online forums. You don't have a medical degree
so u need a medical degree to read studies and anecdotes bro it’s not that difficult to just take ghk cu, fin/dut, telmasartin and caber for tren
 
so u need a medical degree to read studies and anecdotes bro it’s not that difficult to just take ghk cu, fin/dut, telmasartin and caber for tren
So you trust some random studies you find on the internet? Talk to a narcologist who has decades of experience rather than knowledge of random articles from Google.
1) take ghk cu
Ok mr. Doctor
2) not true look at loox jb experiemnt
Do you really think this ogre would attract more female attention than someone like young johnny depp or sergi cabrer? Just because some young mtbs were attracted to him it doesn't mean that he has broad jb appeal. + You're not loox. Your situation can be completely different.
3) doesn’t unless u use abusive doses for extended periods, look at arnold and many others who are fine
Yeah use it for decades! Your body will thank you later
4) gives u muscles
Useless
5) wtf r u talking about
Bigger bones are not a solution to everyone's appearance problems. Steroids do not work as a panacea for an incel face. It can also make some people even uglier.

+ Look at loox before and after roids. Yeah he became more attractive but his face looks less symmetrical
 
So you trust some random studies you find on the internet? Talk to a narcologist who has decades of experience rather than knowledge of random articles from Google.
"random studies" Critically evaluate them all + narcologists have better things to do than talking to incels. Anyone can interpret studies and put in the effort to draw conclusions from them.
Ok mr. Doctor

Do you really think this ogre would attract more female attention than someone like young johnny depp or sergi cabrer? Just because some young mtbs were attracted to him it doesn't mean that he has broad jb appeal. + You're not loox. Your situation can be completely different
He looks far better than before, what a shit point
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Yeah use it for decades! Your body will thank you later
Exaggeration
Depends
Bigger bones are not a solution to everyone's appearance problems. Steroids do not work as a panacea for an incel face. It can also make some people uglier.
But theres success stories of people abusing test and hgh for more dimorphism and looking ebtter. It depends on the scenario and requires nuance
Pure denialism
 
  1. Basic Frauding
  2. Basic softmaxxing
  3. Supplements
  4. High effort frauding
  5. Full dietary change
  6. Supplement megadosing
  7. High effort softmaxxing
  8. Peptides
  9. Low risk procedures
  10. Low risk actual surgeries
  11. Roids
  12. medium risk surgeries , could go wrong but likely to go right if you know
This
 
I'll get jaw implants maybe that's a a strong maybe probably won't it won't really add to my appeal I also have a decent lower third I also might get an eyebrow transplant since it's no risk
 
"random studies" Critically evaluate them all. Anyone can interpret studies and put in the effort to draw conclusions from them.
"Critically evalute them" based on what? I doubt that you friends are winners in school biology and chemistry Olympiads or are studying at a medical school. You can't judge it critically. You judge based on the information that you found on the Internet or information that you heard from other people who found it from the same Internet. Do you really think that this is enough to not get fucked up?
+ narcologists have better things to do than talking to incels.
So, you admit that it is better to use the information you have than to contact a competent specialist.:kekw::kekw::kekw: You are such a genius. You can judge the effect of anabolic steroids on the body better than any graduate of a medical university.

You can make an appointment for a paid consultation with a doctor at any time you want. You can talk to him about steroids if they are legal in your country.

But if you get them illegally, then jfl at you. Illegal steroids have an unknown composition. All anabolic steroids that are banned are always on the black market. As with drugs, you don't know what you're injecting yourself with.
He looks far better than before, what a shit point
And for what cost? He destroyed his endocrine system completely. He will age like an utter shit. He will die early and will be zero jb appeal ogre in 5-7 years. My health is more important for me than attracting some ltb club sluts.
Exaggeration
Ofc! Do it! You will be very healthy
Most of the time muscles are cope. Height and face are law. Other things are cope
But theres success stories of people abusing test and hgh for more dimorphism and looking ebtter. It depends on the scenario and requires nuance
Pure denialism
It may help some people, but not everyone. You just admitted what I said.
 
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I meant that using roids after 18 y.o for improving facial bones is useless. You need to use it for years to see any changes in your facial structure when you're an adult. Your health will be completely destroyed by that time. Only Youngcels can use short cycles and achieve drastic facial changes.

Muscles are cope
 
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