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Where do I find intelligent men to date?

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I’m abv average intelligence but not too crazy so the math shouldn’t be this insane, but it feels like every guy I talk to is actually mentally handicapped and i can’t have an interesting discussion about fucking anything. Where do I find men that are actually educated / intelligent and not debatebros or retards
 
irl at uni i mean not a tard online
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i’m not looking generically like around frats or something. Even my peers who seem smart in class are actually fucking retarded when i talk to them about anything else. it’s like almost all of them don’t read or talk outside of class.
Well what are you expecting realistically
 
I’m abv average intelligence but not too crazy so the math shouldn’t be this insane, but it feels like every guy I talk to is actually mentally handicapped and i can’t have an interesting discussion about fucking anything. Where do I find men that are actually educated / intelligent and not debatebros or retards
If these men are "smart", as you say, then your struggle to find them likely has more to do with thineself than them.
 
I’m abv average intelligence but not too crazy so the math shouldn’t be this insane, but it feels like every guy I talk to is actually mentally handicapped and i can’t have an interesting discussion about fucking anything. Where do I find men that are actually educated / intelligent and not debatebros or retards
Elaborate, what's your age and where do you pursue the men ?
 
Elaborate, what's your age and where do you pursue the men ?
to be vague, i am an undergraduate and around the average age for my class.
Some I talk sporadically with on instagram about whatever is happening / they posted, some I work out rarely with, others I am a direct peer with and hang around the lab a little when we talk or when we work together.

i want to add on another thing:
it is not really like i’m ignoring smart guys because they’re ugly. In my opinion the guys i talk to are pretty chopped. Not that I can talk as if i’m a stacy but i felt it was necessary.
 
If these men are "smart", as you say, then your struggle to find them likely has more to do with thineself than them.
the issue is he’s either plain stupid, or autistic. If he’s autistic it’s usually that he just has an immense knowledge in some niche subject or intense passions. Both of them can’t form an original thought though.
 
I’m abv average intelligence but not too crazy so the math shouldn’t be this insane, but it feels like every guy I talk to is actually mentally handicapped and i can’t have an interesting discussion about fucking anything. Where do I find men that are actually educated / intelligent and not debatebros or retards
So real like wdym you haven’t read a book since elementary bruv
 
So real like wdym you haven’t read a book since elementary bruv
all i want is a man i can actually talk with something on 💔. If I introduce a topic or give him some source to read it has to be beat over his head four times in a row or he won’t get it and then he just tries to kiss me on the first almost platonic study date or some bullshit
 
I’m abv average intelligence but not too crazy so the math shouldn’t be this insane, but it feels like every guy I talk to is actually mentally handicapped and i can’t have an interesting discussion about fucking anything. Where do I find men that are actually educated / intelligent and not debatebros or retards
Not here, that’s a start
Those educated men are probably working on themselves. You’ll find them either I’m at a gym in the morning or at a cafe too if they’re working on their laptop
 
to be vague, i am an undergraduate and around the average age for my class.
Some I talk sporadically with on instagram about whatever is happening / they posted, some I work out rarely with, others I am a direct peer with and hang around the lab a little when we talk or when we work together.

i want to add on another thing:
it is not really like i’m ignoring smart guys because they’re ugly. In my opinion the guys i talk to are pretty chopped. Not that I can talk as if i’m a stacy but i felt it was necessary.
I mean if you're 14 up to 20yo you're prob not find any guy of your taste especially in school
 
They're rare and reserved unless you're high value yourself. You won't find them in university unless it's medschool since any smart man realizes that university is pointless in 2025.
 
Not here, that’s a start
Those educated men are probably working on themselves. You’ll find them either I’m at a gym in the morning or at a cafe too if they’re working on their laptop
yes obv I would never edate here.

I run ppl u/l and i often go with some male friends but istg they’re meatheads. I can’t read if a guy is trying to play eye tag with me or just sticking his head in the sand and working out, so there’s a no go in cold opens at the gym.

And wtf am I meant to do at a cafe..? I mean there’s a large study area but it’s ridiculously aggressive to sit next to some guy if 90% of the tables are free.
 
Go to the math/physics department, they have the highest average IQ.
 
They're rare and reserved unless you're high value yourself. You won't find them in University unless it's medschool since any smart man realizes that University is pointless in 2025.
two ludicrous points here but i’ll only acknowledge the first:

Living / Studying / “Working” in such a dense space means constant mass social interaction. It’s kind of silly to say there’s no openings for anyone above a certain class unless i’m a stacy.
 
You'll find such a man, yet.
Say I name a place, what then? Libraries are obviously places that attract men interested in the arts (be it literature or philosophy), will you, from now on go to libraries with the intention of being a pick up artist?
The true connection you seek, has to be authentic, for all you know - you might find him in a party, and he just happens to have the same interests as you, feelings as you (I'd much rather be having a deeper conversation with someone than be at this party)
Just let life come to you, and talk to people.
 
Go to the math/physics department, they have the highest average IQ.
and do what… it isn’t the 60s anymore where I could smoke in front of the law school to get a lawyer husband
 
You won't find them in university unless it's medschool since any smart man realizes that university is pointless in 2025.
insane dopamine rush from reading this
 
two ludicrous points here but i’ll only acknowledge the first:

Living / Studying / “Working” in such a dense space means constant mass social interaction. It’s kind of silly to say there’s no openings for anyone above a certain class unless i’m a stacy.
I made two points which were: you being high value is a prerequisite and this doesn't only encompass looks since things as not being ran through are also imperative. Secondly you totally ignored the notion that university is pointless and thus you're in the wrong place to find an intelligent man.
 
and do what… it isn’t the 60s anymore where I could smoke in front of the law school to get a lawyer husband
Talk to them, lol. Those people are sex deprived af, they're studying with 80-20 gender split.
 
You'll find such a man, yet.
Say I name a place, what then? Libraries are obviously places that attract men interested in the arts (be it literature or philosophy), will you, from now on go to libraries with the intention of being a pick up artist?
The true connection you seek, has to be authentic, for all you know - you might find him in a party, and he just happens to have the same interests as you, feelings as you (I'd much rather be having a deeper conversation with someone than be at this party)
Just let life come to you, and talk to people.
i try to fully embrace the philosophy to interact with as many people as i can, but like it’s a little ridiculous at this point. The only men I meet share one thing in common with me and that’s what we were doing when we met.

I don’t go to parties for various reasons but it seems like there’s not many general third spaces left to properly meet people that haven’t been consumed by modern isolationism
 
Talk to them, lol. Those people are sex deprived af, they're studying with 80-20 gender split.
I don’t have any of those classes rn.. Am I meant to cold approach men in the hallways?? I understand your point but there’s just not a shared space
 
i try to fully embrace the philosophy to interact with as many people as i can, but like it’s a little ridiculous at this point. The only men I meet share one thing in common with me and that’s what we were doing when we met.

I don’t go to parties for various reasons but it seems like there’s not many general third spaces left to properly meet people that haven’t been consumed by modern isolationism
Stop being so childish for a second.
I'd wager you're no older than 20, by your immature understanding of the philosophical topics you espouse to argue for.
You were, yesterday, in your father's balls.
"fuark my life I have no connections"
Just have patience don't pmo
 
I made two points which were: you being high value is a prerequisite and this doesn't only encompass looks since things as not being ran through are also imperative. Secondly you totally ignored the notion that university is pointless and thus you're in the wrong place to find an intelligent man.
Firstly, I think that perhaps a relationship won’t spark unless i’m “high value” but before then there needs to be a shared connection or some kind of platform for our potential relationship which is kind of the whole point of this thread. Not asking on how to land men. It just feels like anyone who shares a romantic spark with me is always retarded.

Secondly, for my particular major it is explicitly required to have a degree to join the workforce in what i am passionate about, and I myself have a long justification of why / what I want to get out of university.
 
i’m not looking generically like around frats or something. Even my peers who seem smart in class are actually fucking retarded when i talk to them about anything else. it’s like almost all of them don’t read or talk outside of class.
It does not help you're pretentious and so hostile, which is a masculine / abrasive trait, than a welcoming one
 
Stop being so childish for a second.
I'd wager you're no older than 20, by your immature understanding of the philosophical topics you espouse to argue for.
You were, yesterday, in your father's balls.
"fuark my life I have no connections"
Just have patience don't pmo
I said i’m an undergrad so great job genius.

Also attack my rationale all you want but I still can’t find a connection and it’s getting to a point where i’m desperate for an intimate connection with someone who isn’t mentally handicapped.
 
It does not help you're pretentious and so hostile, which is a masculine / abrasive trait, than a welcoming one
no use being submissive and allowing myself to be browbeaten with all the incel rhetoric / dismissive stuff
 
yes obv I would never edate here.

I run ppl u/l and i often go with some male friends but istg they’re meatheads. I can’t read if a guy is trying to play eye tag with me or just sticking his head in the sand and working out, so there’s a no go in cold opens at the gym.

And wtf am I meant to do at a cafe..? I mean there’s a large study area but it’s ridiculously aggressive to sit next to some guy if 90% of the tables are free.
I’ll be honest idk how you’re gonna be able to approach those guys without being a little pushy. If you’re under like 24-25 there are going to be basically no guys like that around since that mosy happens once the frontal lobe develops. And I couldn’t think of anywhere else to find intelligent guys
 
I said i’m an undergrad so great job genius.
I DNR'd
Also attack my rationale all you want but I still can’t find a connection and it’s getting to a point where i’m desperate for an intimate connection with someone who isn’t mentally handicapped.
I have a good understanding of your issues.
I do not know whether to invest in this conversation any further or not.
You are a woman after all.
Are you looking for a pragmatic and logical solution or just here to vent and sulk?
It's okay if it's the second option just tell us that in advance.
 
Firstly, I think that perhaps a relationship won’t spark unless i’m “high value” but before then there needs to be a shared connection or some kind of platform for our potential relationship which is kind of the whole point of this thread. Not asking on how to land men. It just feels like anyone who shares a romantic spark with me is always retarded.

Secondly, for my particular major it is explicitly required to have a degree to join the workforce in what i am passionate about, and I myself have a long justification of why / what I want to get out of university.
Oh well then you probably had a bad dice roll and landed only with less gifted people in your class if I should trust your experience. Despair will come raining over you unfortunately. Either you settle with someone who you perceive to be a midwit and get on various psychiatric medications to deal with misery or you try even harder and look in other places maybe even be so open-minded that you get in contact with @Clone.
 
I DNR'd

I have a good understanding of your issues.
I do not know whether to invest in this conversation any further or not.
You are a woman after all.
Are you looking for a pragmatic and logical solution or just here to vent and sulk?
It's okay if it's the second option just tell us that in advance.
It’s difficult to achieve an accurate solution from a third party without revealing my entire situation, but I believe I want pragmatic solutions that I can start on irl. I can handle myself once I get the ball rolling.
 
Oh well then you probably had a bad dice roll and landed only with less gifted people in your class if I should trust your experience. Despair will come raining over you unfortunately. Either you settle with someone who you perceive to be a midwit and get on various psychiatric medications to deal with misery or you try even harder and look in other places maybe even be so open-minded that you get in contact with @Clone.
what places do you suggest? Are there any oases left that aren’t full of performative males or single minded autists?
 
I’ll be honest idk how you’re gonna be able to approach those guys without being a little pushy. If you’re under like 24-25 there are going to be basically no guys like that around since that mosy happens once the frontal lobe develops. And I couldn’t think of anywhere else to find intelligent guys
I am willing to be a little pushy but there’s just a certain point. The furthest I go is eating dinner at the same table with total strangers or sharing a park bench in the middle of the day.
 
what places do you suggest? Are there any oases left that aren’t full of performative males or single minded autists?
I wouldn't know unfortunately. My guess is that most self-isolate or are company leaders.
 

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