white people always be like

[Deleted Member 80486]

"but if the roles were reversed", the roles HAVE been reversed bro, anything you could think of, you guys have already done it to ethnics

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

@Koji @RAD

 

[Sammy]

dont be mean milkjar

 

[TonyDr]

"but if the roles were reversed", the roles HAVE been reversed bro, anything you could think of, you guys have already done it to ethnics

Not me, not even my ancestors as they were poor farmercels in the middle of french nowhere.
The "muh whites" was a small elite, the rich families

 

[Vampi]

Not me, not even my ancestors as they were poor farmercels in the middle of french nowhere.
The "muh whites" was a small elite, the rich families

Exactly, there were barely any slaves in europe, my family comes from all over europe and they never had the power to own one anyway

 

[Vampi]

"but if the roles were reversed", the roles HAVE been reversed bro, anything you could think of, you guys have already done it to ethnics

Here before a „but i had breakfast“ n*****s come in

 

[</3]

Here before a „but i had breakfast“ n*****s come in

...but i didnt have breakfast???

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

Not me, not even my ancestors as they were poor farmercels in the middle of french nowhere.
The "muh whites" was a small elite, the rich families

I'm not talking about slavery alone btw also the "my ancestors had nothing to do with it" argument doesn't work for frenchcels, France colonized many nations, therefore the average French citizen living there at that time would've still benefited from the improved quality of life the nation had from exploiting those countries even if they didn't have no direct involvement

 

[emeraldpill]

I hope my ancestors had slaves that’s lowkey aura

 

[Vampi]

I'm not talking about slavery alone btw also the "my ancestors had nothing to do with it" argument doesn't work for frenchcels, France colonized many nations, therefore the average French citizen living there at that time would've still benefited from the improved quality of life the nation had from exploiting those countries even if they didn't have no direct involvement

As a german im fine thought right?

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

I hope my ancestors had slaves that’s lowkey aura

wait why does everyone think i'm talking about just slavery?

I mean more like any instance of oppression or discrimination that white people face from ethnics they will say "but if the roles were reversed it'd be all over the news" etc

 

[trueceljester]

As a german im fine thought right?

yea i dont think germany has ever done anything bad in history

 

[Vampi]

yea i dont think germany has ever done anything bad in history

Only good

 

[trueceljester]

Only good

u get it

 

[TonyDr]

I'm not talking about slavery alone btw also the "my ancestors had nothing to do with it" argument doesn't work for frenchcels, France colonized many nations, therefore the average French citizen living there at that time would've still benefited from the improved quality of life the nation had from exploiting those countries even if they didn't have no direct involvement

Again, this is historically not true. My ancestors never benefited from the french elites benefits who colonized nations. My ancestors was poor farmers who got taxes r***d by the monarchy on their own soil, taxing foods they produced and lands, hence why my father, my grand father, through the traumas of their owen great grand fathers, never wanted a King again as a french leader.

You prob mistake it with the First & Second estate alongside the bourgeoisie, who was small religious and powergul entities leading the country, with the third french estate, where most majority of french people was peasants and never benfited of all of these

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

Again, this is historically not true. My ancestors never benefited from the french elites benefits who colonized nations. My ancestors was poor farmers who got taxes r***d by the monarchy on their own soil, taxing foods they produced and lands, hence why my father, my grand father, through the traumas of their owen great grand fathers, never wanted a King again as a french leader.

You prob mistake it with the First & Second estate alongside the bourgeoisie, who was small religious and powergul entities leading the country, with the third french estate, where most majority of french people was peasants and never benfited of all of these

well fair game

but, my point in OP wasn't really about slavery which I said here

wait why does everyone think i'm talking about just slavery?

I mean more like any instance of oppression or discrimination that white people face from ethnics they will say "but if the roles were reversed it'd be all over the news" etc

 

[Anna]

Not me, not even my ancestors as they were poor farmercels in the middle of french nowhere.
The "muh whites" was a small elite, the rich families

This exactly

My ancestors were not responsible for ANYTHING bad that happened to black people in the past

Matter of fact my grandma was like 10 before she had even SEEN a black person before

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

This exactly

My ancestors were not responsible for ANYTHING bad that happened to black people in the past

Matter of fact my grandma was like 10 before she had even SEEN a black person before

what is your heritage?

 

[Duchess]

"but if the roles were reversed", the roles HAVE been reversed bro, anything you could think of, you guys have already done it to ethnics

Nah but hearing this pisses me off. You guys don't know the definition of racism. Even though they've been reversed the people who did it are dead and even the white people of today hate them. If people of color were so hurt by this then why put it on white people who got nothing to do with it? Personally I'm french canadian and english canadians still see us as lesser because of a language we speak. We experience prejudice. We litteraly helped black ppl escape slavery back then, and now we get shit on for that?

White european women were kidnapped and enslaved by the middle eastern arabs back then, does that mean I should be out here insulting every middle eastern person because someone who looked similar did something to some ancestor of mine I don't know? Sounds kinda racist.

 

[Anna]

what is your heritage?

I was talking about my English side

Hmmmm you are right if we look at the Ecuadorian side things get a bit shaky

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

Nah but hearing this pisses me off. You guys don't know the definition of racism. Even though they've been reversed the people who did it are dead and even the white people of today hate them.

I never said that people should hate the white people of today or that the white people of today were responsible btw, that's an entirely different topic

the basis of my point is the whole "if the roles were reversed" argument is pointless because they make it seem as if the roles haven't been reversed before

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

I was talking about my English side

Hmmmm you are right if we look at the Ecuadorian side things get a bit shaky

@TonyDr bro thought he was part of the team

 

[Anna]

@TonyDr bro thought he was part of the team

But my grandma and grandad were literally just in the country in the middle of onowhere in England

The other side MAY have been colonisers but who knows

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

But my grandma and grandad were literally just in the country in the middle of onowhere in England

The other side MAY have been colonisers but who knows

you're a filthy mutt, this isn't for you brown boi

 

[Anna]

you're a filthy mutt, this isn't for you brown boi

Wow racist

a-at least I’m not BLACK

 

[Duchess]

I never said that people should hate the white people of today or that the white people of today were responsible btw, that's an entirely different topic

the basis of my point is the whole "if the roles were reversed" argument is pointless because they make it seem as if the roles haven't been reversed before

I mean usually people say this meaning in the current day if the roles were reversed. For example if we take the george floyd incident people instantly rioted without really knowing more or following the investigation, because they assumed it was race based and cause outrage. Maybe it was maybe it's not I'm not gonna pretend like I know the cop's thoughts.

But even though situations where it's a black on white crime which is statistically more common than white on black crime, even if it's unfair there is no outrage or public demonstration. Like for the case of that Ukrainian girl on the train, it took ages for people to notice because the media didn't air it, which is the part that eventually caused outrage. Usually this is the case because less white people see race, so they don't see a black on white crime, they see a person on person crime like any other, which is why there is no assumption the guy was targeting her for her race. But black on white hate does exist.

So when I say if the roles were reversed, I'm not using it to deny they have been, I'm using it in a okay, imagine if this incident happened in our current political climate, how would people react? It's not in a hateful way it's to provoke thoughts.

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

So when I say if the roles were reversed, I'm not using it to deny they have been, I'm using it in a okay, imagine if this incident happened in our current political climate, how would people react? It's not in a hateful way it's to provoke thoughts.

perhaps when you use it that's the case, but most of the time when the line used it's just a senseless cliche attempt of a "gotcha" moment

another reason why I dislike the "if the roles were reversed argument" is, people only realize something is an issue when it happens it happens to white people, like recently with the lady getting killed by ICE for no reason, people are only now coming out to say that there is a brutality issue and an abuse of power with government authorities, like NOW you're realizing that?

 

[2ANA]

my girlfriend is blasian so it would be wrong to disagree

ig bro

 

[Duchess]

perhaps when you use it that's the case, but most of the time when the line used it's just a senseless cliche attempt of a "gotcha" moment

another reason why I dislike the "if the roles were reversed argument" is, people only realize something is an issue when it happens it happens to white people, like recently with the lady getting killed by ICE for no reason, people are only now coming out to say that there is a brutality issue and an abuse of power with government authorities, like NOW you're realizing that?

Honestly most of the people that are freaking out about this lady getting killed are the left wing liberals who claim to be super anti racist but just want to use anything to make Trump look bad. Personally I've seen them calling ICE racist a lot of times though even before this happened.

But a lot of times the thing is that, ICE is there to deport illegals who do crimes. Obviously they make mistakes sometimes and it's horrible. But a lot of illegals who do crimes come from from predominantly POC countries with a lot of crime. While they don't do the crime because of their race, they get arrested for these crimes by ICE, which makes ICE look racist.

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

Honestly most of the people that are freaking out about this lady getting killed are the left wing liberals who claim to be super anti racist but just want to use anything to make Trump look bad. Personally I've seen them calling ICE racist a lot of times though even before this happened.

But a lot of times the thing is that, ICE is there to deport illegals who do crimes. Obviously they make mistakes sometimes and it's horrible. But a lot of illegals who do crimes come from from predominantly POC countries with a lot of crime. While they don't do the crime because of their race, they get arrested for these crimes by ICE, which makes ICE look racist.

there were also conservatives complaining about it

btw I don't really care about the ethics of ICE, my country has an immigrant issue too so I don't see a issue with it

I just mentioned what happened to her as an example

 

[Thebird]

I hope my ancestors had slaves that’s lowkey aura

Ily

 

[Deleted Member 80486]

Ily

you little whore

 

[Thebird]

you little whore

What

 

[RAJ GHRANDHICK]

if ethnics conquered the world it would be a deeper shittier hell

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

"but if the roles were reversed", the roles HAVE been reversed bro, anything you could think of, you guys have already done it to ethnics

I do not care. I am Hungarian, we never had dealt with ethnics except Mongols and Turkish people who invaded us first. Now it is the third world invading us and the weak traitors. If someone enters my household without my consent, I will have them dragged out dead or alive.

 

[Deleted Member 103414]

Zee Irish have done nothing but defend their homeland.