Discussion Why anabolic steroids and testosterone could be halal MUSLIMS GTFIH

[foidslayer]

@1894 @kys @Histy

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.​

There are several cases where it's allowed:

• If your looks causes you unideal levels of stress
• If you aren't what's supposed to be normal, a defect. (For example extremely low T is a defect which is why it's halal to take TRT if you have low T)

And that is what I'm gonna be building upon in this thread.

We all know our ancestors had much more testosterone than us.​

We're supposed to have the skull on the left but due to the low testosterone in this day and age (mainly cause of the infamous billionaires and Jews feeding us goyslop), we have the skull on the right.

What does this mean?​

Since we are considered a defect shouldn't it be halal to take anabolic steroids and testosterone coupled with peptides to increase the hormonal production in our system to match that of our ancestors (the supposed normal)?

Correct me if I'm wrong.​

 

[chuu]

Great thread foidslayer, I dont even have to read it to know you cooked

 

[catlady]

@1894 @kys @Histy

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.​

There are several cases where it's allowed:

• If your looks causes you unideal levels of stress
• If you aren't what's supposed to be normal, a defect. (For example extremely low T is a defect which is why it's halal to take TRT if you have low T)

And that is what I'm gonna be building upon in this thread.

We all know our ancestors had much more testosterone than us.​

View attachment 354604

We're supposed to have the skull on the left but due to the low testosterone in this day and age (mainly cause of the infamous billionaires and Jews feeding us goyslop), we have the skull on the right.

What does this mean?​

Since we are considered a defect shouldn't it be halal to take anabolic steroids and testosterone coupled with peptides to incrase the hormonal production in our system to match that of our ancestors (the supposed normal)?

Correct me if I'm wrong.​

Technically you’re not allowed to change anything using exogenous substances. Same goes for any body modification.

 

[foidslayer]

Great thread foidslayer, I dont even have to read it to know you cooked

This has been on my mind for ages i finally formulated it into words

 

[foidslayer]

Technically you’re not allowed to change anything using exogenous substances. Same goes for any body modification.

Yes, that's true IF you're completely normal and dont suffer from any defects. Low T in modern day and age IS a defect

 

[Inanimate Pragmatist]

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:90–91)
“O you who believe! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and divining arrows are an abomination from Satan’s handiwork, so avoid them that you may be successful.”

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:195)
“And do not throw yourselves with your own hands into destruction.”

Every intoxicant is khamr, and every khamr is forbidden.

 

[foidslayer]

Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:90–91)
“O you who believe! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and divining arrows are an abomination from Satan’s handiwork, so avoid them that you may be successful.”

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:195)
“And do not throw yourselves with your own hands into destruction.”

Every intoxicant is khamr, and every khamr is forbidden.

What does this have to do with my point?

 

[catlady]

Yes, that's true IF you're completely normal and dont suffer from any defects. Low T in modern day and age IS a defect

This is not how it works buddy

 

[icnone]

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.

I thought the ban was on plastic surgery and fillers

 

[foidslayer]

This is not how it works buddy

Again that's how it works because a person that suffers from low Testosterone is allowed to take test in islam.

 

[foidslayer]

I thought the ban was on plastic surgery and fillers

it's on anything cosmetic

 

[Roxas]

@1894 @kys @Histy

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.​

There are several cases where it's allowed:

• If your looks causes you unideal levels of stress
• If you aren't what's supposed to be normal, a defect. (For example extremely low T is a defect which is why it's halal to take TRT if you have low T)

And that is what I'm gonna be building upon in this thread.

We all know our ancestors had much more testosterone than us.​

View attachment 354604

We're supposed to have the skull on the left but due to the low testosterone in this day and age (mainly cause of the infamous billionaires and Jews feeding us goyslop), we have the skull on the right.

What does this mean?​

Since we are considered a defect shouldn't it be halal to take anabolic steroids and testosterone coupled with peptides to increase the hormonal production in our system to match that of our ancestors (the supposed normal)?

Correct me if I'm wrong.​

Interesting

 

[icnone]

it's on anything cosmetic

I thought skinmaxxing was halal

 

[foidslayer]

I thought skinmaxxing was halal

taking care of yourself is encouraged just anything non natural like cosmetic surgery and pinning is haram if it's for cosmetic reasons only

Except for the cases i listed in the thread

 

[splanky]

omg wait i started being muslim like a couple weeks ago then i forgot abt it this made me remmeber oh no

 

[foidslayer]

omg wait i started being muslim like a couple weeks ago then i forgot abt it this made me remmeber oh no

it's okay splanky

 

[houcine]

bro is the forum's imam

 

[splanky]

it's okay splanky

will it still be okay in hell or
am i supposed to start it again will god even gaf be honest

 

[foidslayer]

will it still be okay in hell or
am i supposed to start it again will god even gaf be honest

I can't decide if you're going to hell or not as it's not my place but god is forgiving

Again immense stress caused by facial appearance is a valid reason to have cosmetic surgery from what I've researched.

 

[submissivechud]

omg wait i started being muslim like a couple weeks ago then i forgot abt it this made me remmeber oh no

ur joking right

 

[aquamarine1488]

Imagine still being muslim jfl

 

[catlady]

Again that's how it works because a person that suffers from low Testosterone is allowed to take test in islam.

Unless it’s a medical condition no. You’re not getting a free pass cause muh muh my skull isn’t developed enough

 

[foidslayer]

Imagine still being muslim jfl

still in this day and age not a single contradictions or mistake is in the Qur'an

 

[splanky]

I can't decide if you're going to hell or not as it's not my place but god is forgiving

Again immense stress caused by facial appearance is a valid reason to have cosmetic surgery from what I've researched.

i remember god being forgiving that’s why i wanted to be religious cuz i felt like a bad person and wanted to be forgiven

ur joking right

no like i went thru religious psychosis and experienced so many faiths but then i took the thing that makes u muslim and i prayed and read the quran and stuff like deadass

 

[foidslayer]

Unless it’s a medical condition no. You’re not getting a free pass cause muh muh my skull isn’t developed enough

If it reaches the level of a real medical or psychiatric condition (like diagnosed severe body dysmorphia), scholars consider exceptions

 

[catlady]

If it reaches the level of a real medical or psychiatric condition (like diagnosed severe body dysmorphia), scholars consider exceptions

So can any flaw in your appearance? These are not exceptions sorry

 

[foidslayer]

So can any flaw in your appearance? These are not exceptions sorry

what is your point here

im saying extreme body dysmorphia is an exception that makes cosmetic changes in your face and body halal

 

[catlady]

what is your point here

im saying extreme body dysmorphia is an exception that makes cosmetic changes in your face halal

Body dysmorphia is not an exception. Stop trying to find loop holes. Just do it knowing it’s not allowed. You’ll be fine.

 

[aquamarine1488]

still in this day and age not a single contradictions or mistake is in the Qur'an

JFL

 

[foidslayer]

Body dysmorphia is not an exception. Stop trying to find loop holes. Just do it knowing it’s not allowed. You’ll be fine.

Dealing with a state of unusual ugliness that causes physical or psychological hardship (Academy resolution 26 [1/4]).

Plastic Surgeries and their Shariah Rulings

In the Name of Allāh,the Entirely Merciful, the Especially MercifulPraise is due to Allāh, Lord of the worlds, may the blessings and peace be upon our master Muḥammad, the last of prophets, on his family, and all his companions.Resolution

iifa-aifi.org

 

[foidslayer]

JFLView attachment 354616

this has been debunked many times too

Back then they counted age by years AFTER puberty. Making Aisha around 18 (6 years after puberty)

Multiple other reasons too that put her at that age range

 

[catlady]

Dealing with a state of unusual ugliness that causes physical or psychological hardship (Academy resolution 26 [1/4]).

Plastic Surgeries and their Shariah Rulings

In the Name of Allāh,the Entirely Merciful, the Especially MercifulPraise is due to Allāh, Lord of the worlds, may the blessings and peace be upon our master Muḥammad, the last of prophets, on his family, and all his companions.Resolution

iifa-aifi.org

Can you find me the verse regarding this part, I have never read such a thing in the book

 

[foidslayer]

Can you find me the verse regarding this part, I have never read such a thing in the book
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It is a fiqh principle derived from multiple sources

“Harm must be removed” (الضرر يزال)
This comes from the hadith:
“There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.” (Reported in Ibn Majah and others)

Qur’an 22:78
“He has not placed upon you in religion any hardship.”
So scholars say if a physical feature causes real hardship, it can become treatable

combining it with medical reasoning so they define a category

“Not pure vanity, but not life-threatening”

Examples:

• severe facial deformity causing bullying or isolation
• abnormal features causing major psychological harm
• disfigurement affecting normal social functioning

That’s what the Academy is calling “unusual ugliness causing psychological or physical hardship"

 

[1894]

You’d have to ask a scholar

 

[catlady]

It is a fiqh principle derived from multiple sources

“Harm must be removed” (الضرر يزال)
This comes from the hadith:
“There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.” (Reported in Ibn Majah and others)

Qur’an 22:78
“He has not placed upon you in religion any hardship.”
So scholars say if a physical feature causes real hardship, it can become treatable

combining it with medical reasoning so they define a category

“Not pure vanity, but not life-threatening”

Examples:

• severe facial deformity causing bullying or isolation
• abnormal features causing major psychological harm
• disfigurement affecting normal social functioning

That’s what the Academy is calling “unusual ugliness causing psychological or physical hardship"

You interpretation doesn’t seem very accurate. And I personally don’t believe if hadiths as it could be a random n****r saying shit. Strictly by the book, you must return your body as it was given to you.

 

[foidslayer]

You interpretation doesn’t seem very accurate. And I personally don’t believe if hadiths as it could be a random n****r saying shit. Strictly by the book, you must return your body as it was given to you.

Hadiths aren't just random people saying stuff. You can search up and see the exact line of people the hadith came from and if they're trusted or not and how it connects to the prophet peace be upon him. That's why there's weak hadith and strong hadith

 

[foidslayer]

Hadiths aren't just random people saying stuff. You can search up and see the exact line of people the hadith came from and if they're trusted or not and how it connects to the prophet peace be upon him. That's why there's weak hadith and strong hadith

it's called علم الجرح والتعديل

 

[catlady]

Hadiths aren't just random people saying stuff. You can search up and see the exact line of people the hadith came from and if they're trusted or not and how it connects to the prophet peace be upon him. That's why there's weak hadith and strong hadith

I only believe in the Quran and hadiths make too much room for inaccuracies sorry

 

[catlady]

it's called علم الجرح والتعديل

I’ll check it out tho. Maybe my opinion will change thx

 

[chudlite67]

i remember god being forgiving that’s why i wanted to be religious cuz i felt like a bad person and wanted to be forgiven

no like i went thru religious psychosis and experienced so many faiths but then i took the thing that makes u muslim and i prayed and read the quran and stuff like deadass

wait what happened to u

 

[splanky]

wait what happened to u

wait what
like abt what

 

[chudlite67]

wait what
like abt what

the religious psychosis

 

[splanky]

the religious psychosis

so basically i remember everything and then i forget
like idk how to explain it
bur its like i get so worried that i am a bad person or smth
but i dont even care i think
i hope that when im older and smarter i can maybe be more religious

 

[chudlite67]

so basically i remember everything and then i forget
like idk how to explain it
bur its like i get so worried that i am a bad person or smth
but i dont even care i think
i hope that when im older and smarter i can maybe be more religious

oh interesting i think my friend had something similar except she thought demons were trying to eat her or something idk sounds scary

 

[Histy]

@1894 @kys @Histy

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.​

There are several cases where it's allowed:

• If your looks causes you unideal levels of stress
• If you aren't what's supposed to be normal, a defect. (For example extremely low T is a defect which is why it's halal to take TRT if you have low T)

And that is what I'm gonna be building upon in this thread.

We all know our ancestors had much more testosterone than us.​

View attachment 354604

We're supposed to have the skull on the left but due to the low testosterone in this day and age (mainly cause of the infamous billionaires and Jews feeding us goyslop), we have the skull on the right.

What does this mean?​

Since we are considered a defect shouldn't it be halal to take anabolic steroids and testosterone coupled with peptides to increase the hormonal production in our system to match that of our ancestors (the supposed normal)?

Correct me if I'm wrong.​

Bump

 

[Arya]

Bump

You are muslim? i dint know

 

[Deleted Member 121099]

I would’ve read it if I took steroids and were Muslim. here’s a gold though

 

[ecoli]

@1894 @kys @Histy

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.​

There are several cases where it's allowed:

• If your looks causes you unideal levels of stress
• If you aren't what's supposed to be normal, a defect. (For example extremely low T is a defect which is why it's halal to take TRT if you have low T)

And that is what I'm gonna be building upon in this thread.

We all know our ancestors had much more testosterone than us.​

View attachment 354604

We're supposed to have the skull on the left but due to the low testosterone in this day and age (mainly cause of the infamous billionaires and Jews feeding us goyslop), we have the skull on the right.

What does this mean?​

Since we are considered a defect shouldn't it be halal to take anabolic steroids and testosterone coupled with peptides to increase the hormonal production in our system to match that of our ancestors (the supposed normal)?

Correct me if I'm wrong.​

not allowed except for medical necessity

 

[ecoli]

You interpretation doesn’t seem very accurate. And I personally don’t believe if hadiths as it could be a random n****r saying shit. Strictly by the book, you must return your body as it was given to you.

I only believe in the Quran and hadiths make too much room for inaccuracies sorry

rejecting hadith is kufr

 

[mtren]

@1894 @kys @Histy

We all know that cosmetically and artificially changing your looks in islam is forbidden.​

There are several cases where it's allowed:

• If your looks causes you unideal levels of stress
• If you aren't what's supposed to be normal, a defect. (For example extremely low T is a defect which is why it's halal to take TRT if you have low T)

And that is what I'm gonna be building upon in this thread.

We all know our ancestors had much more testosterone than us.​

View attachment 354604

We're supposed to have the skull on the left but due to the low testosterone in this day and age (mainly cause of the infamous billionaires and Jews feeding us goyslop), we have the skull on the right.

What does this mean?​

Since we are considered a defect shouldn't it be halal to take anabolic steroids and testosterone coupled with peptides to increase the hormonal production in our system to match that of our ancestors (the supposed normal)?

Correct me if I'm wrong.​

mirin + finally someone talkin bout this