Why are there so many non native brits here

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

Kill this thread

 

[Crazyrabbit67]

no one is truly native to England its not possible if we say English race is native then im 75% majority native can't even physically be native to England unlike America etc

Stop coping ape

 

[tjlfmz]

Stop coping ape

Ape

 

[Crazyrabbit67]

Ape

Irrelevant Image you're still 1/4 black

 

[tjlfmz]

Irrelevant Image you're still 1/4 black

but im whiter than u

 

[Crazyrabbit67]

but im whiter than u

Just aren't but ok

 

[eternal love]

this is sad but 80% of london population is brown

 

[eternal love]

deport all ethnics

 

[Deleted Member 107512]

deport all ethnics

Define "ethnic" n***a.

 

[eternal love]

Define "ethnic" n***a.

all non-whites. subhumans basically

 

[Deleted Member 107512]

all non-whites. subhumans basically

Define "white". This is not a scientific term and it is not used in genetic studies. Furthermore, "whiteness" is a meaningless category, a poorly defined category and cannot be measured. Only a handful of countries take statistics on "whiteness" and they differ with each other on its meaning.

What is used in genetic studies are "European" and "Middle Eastern" and "North African" and "Central Asian" but "Western Eurasian" is the correct term because there's little genetic differentiation between Western Eurasians. Most "Middle Easterners" are closer to Bulgarians than to Saudis and Italians are closer to Armenians than to Poles or Ukrainians. So "European" and "Middle Eastern" have no genetic meaning; FST values and ADMIXTURE are a things and they don't support these absurd binaries.

 

[Deleted Member 107512]

all non-whites. subhumans basically

Furthermore, genetics are clinal. For the most part, changes between areas and regions are smooth and gradual.

If you don't know what "clines" are, don't speak about genetics.

 

[eternal love]

Define "white". This is not a scientific term and it is not used in genetic studies. Furthermore, "whiteness" is a meaningless category, a poorly defined category and cannot be measured. Only a handful of countries take statistics on "whiteness" and they differ with each other on its meaning.

What is used in genetic studies are "European" and "Middle Eastern" and "North African" and "Central Asian" but "Western Eurasian" is the correct term because there's little genetic differentiation between Western Eurasians. Most "Middle Easterners" are closer to Bulgarians than to Saudis and Italians are closer to Armenians than to Poles or Ukrainians. So "European" and "Middle Eastern" have no genetic meaning; FST values and ADMIXTURE are a things and they don't support these absurd binaries.

science is shit, i don't care about "muh science proved"
"saar middle easterners are closer to italians than italians are closer to ukrainians" JFL at this cope, check it

 

[Adam2.0]

Nope, he was Italian mixed JFL.

My grands is only Italian I’m basically a native Brit

 

[Deleted Member 107512]

science is shit, i don't care about "muh science proved"
"saar middle easterners are closer to italians than italians are closer to ukrainians" JFL at this cope, check it
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Ah yes, using this edited PCA from outdated 2014 study as a last resort.

Firstly, these labels weren't included in the PCA; use the actual PCA.

2. There are Sicilian samples in that "Jewish cluster". Are Sicilians "Jews"? Are Maltese "Jews"? Where are the "North Africans" in the "Middle East and North African cluster? Are we talking about Maghrebi Jews? Those are quite distinct from the Muslims of those countries and they certainly don't cluster with Arabians.

3. Learn how to read:

"Two sets of European populations are poor fits for the model. Sicilians, Maltese, and Ashkenazi Jews have EEF estimates of >100% consistent with their having more Near Eastern ancestry than can be explained via EEF admixture (SI17). They also cannot be jointly fit with other Europeans (SI14), and they fall in the gap between European and Near Easterners (Fig. 1B). Finns, Mordovians and Russians (from the northwest of Russia) also do not fit (SI14; Extended Data Table 3) due to East Eurasian gene flow into the ancestors of these northeastern European populations. These populations (and Chuvash and Saami) are more related to East Asians than can be explained by ANE admixture (Extended Data Fig. 7), likely reflecting a separate stream of Siberian gene flow into northeastern Europe (SI14)."

4. Do you even know what a PCA is?

They are visual projections of variance, not literal distance maps.

Two big things people mess up constantly:
The axes are arbitrary rotations of variance.
Visual closeness ≠ exact genetic distance unless you compute it numerically (FST, outgroup f3, etc.).

You can literally:

Change the populations included
Change sample sizes
Change scaling
Crop the plot
Rotate the axes
…and the visual impression changes dramatically.
That’s why using a cropped PCA to make civilizational arguments is… unserious.

Besides, there's a clear cline and Ukraine is far west whilst the Italians from Tuscany and Bergamo are quite a bit east of them and Sicilians and Southern Italians are east of those. Use your fingers to cover the distance.

5. That same study has admixture from

Ukrainian
EEF: 0.462
WHG: 0.387
ANE: 0.151

Bergamo
EEF: 0.715
WHG: 0.177
ANE: 0.108

Tuscan
EEF: 0.746
WHG: 0.136
ANE: 0.118

Sicilian
EEF: 0.903
WHG: 0
ANE: 0.097

6. Again, outdated study from 2014 is irrelevant. Why 2014? Why just that one? Why didn't you use Kovacevic's study from the same year with her PCA/FST?

Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers

Contemporary inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula belong to several ethnic groups of diverse cultural background. In this study, three ethnic groups from Bosnia and Herzegovina - Bosniacs, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs - as well as the populations of Serbians, Croatians, Macedonians from the...

journals.plos.org

"Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers" by Kovacevic et al 2014

Why not 2016 from the same Lazaridis?

Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East - PMC

We report genome-wide ancient DNA from 44 ancient Near Easterners ranging in time between ~12,000-1,400 BCE, from Natufian hunter-gatherers to Bronze Age farmers. We show that the earliest populations of the Near East derived around half their ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East" by Lazaridis et al 2016.

"We computed squared allele frequency differentiation between all pairs of ancient West Eurasians<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5003663/#R28">28</a> (Methods; Fig. 3; Extended Data Fig. 2b; Extended Data Fig. 4), and found that the populations at the four corners of the quadrangle had differentiation of FST=0.08-0.15, comparable to the value of 0.09-0.13 seen between present-day West Eurasians and East Asians (Han) (Supplementary Data Table 3). In contrast, by the Bronze Age, genetic differentiation between pairs of West Eurasian populations had reached its present-day low levels (Fig. 3): today, FST is ≤0.025 for 95% of the pairs of West Eurasian populations and ≤0.046 for all pairs (Fig. 3). These results point to a demographic process that established high differentiation across West Eurasia and then reduced this differentiation over time."

But if you wanna squarely compare Ukraine and Russia to Italian populations vs various Near Eastern populations, there is an FST table located.

Ukrainian-Italian North-0.005
Ukrainian-Sicilian: 0.008
Ukrainian-Sardinian: 0.016
Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.007
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.01

Russian-Italian North-0.009
Russian-Sicilian: 0.01
Russian-Sardinian: 0.02


Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.01
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.013

Since I mentioned Armenians specifically, I'll talk about Armenians specifically.

Armenian-Italian North-0.006
Armenian-Sicilian: 0.004
Armenian-Sardinian: 0.015


Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.005
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.008

What about "Genetic affinities of the Jewish populations of India" by Chaubey et al 2016 with its FST tables?

Genetic affinities of the Jewish populations of India - PMC

Due to the lack of written records or inscription, the origin and affiliation of Indian Jewish populations with other world populations remain contentious. Previous genetic studies have found evidence for a minor shared ancestry of Indian Jewish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ukranians-Northern Italians: 0.006
Ukranians-Tuscans: 0.007
Ukranians-Sardinians: 0.016

Value without Sardinia: ~0.007
Value with Sardinia: ~0.01

Russians-Northern Italians: 0.009
Russians-Tuscans: 0.01
Russians-Sardinians: 0.02

Value without Sardinia: ~0.01
Value with Sardinia: 0.013

Armenians-Northern Italians: 0.006
Armenians-Tuscans: 0.005
Armenians-Sardinians: 0.014

Value wthout Sardinia: ~0.006
Value with Sardinia: ~0.008

Let's not stop there. What about Tamm et al 2019?

Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy - PMC

Despite being the fourth largest island in the Mediterranean basin, the genetic variation of Corsica has not been explored as exhaustively as Sardinia, which is situated only 11 km South. However, it is likely that the populations of the two islands ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy" by Tamm et al 2019

Also, we can bring up FST values with Ukrainians vs Italians vs Armenians AGAIN to see if this is just a fluke

Armenians-Northern Italians: 0.008
Armenians-Piedmont: 0.005
Armenians-Tuscany: 0.005
Armenians-Abruzzo: 0.004
Armenians-Sicilians: 0.003
Armenians-Sardinians: 0.015

Value without Sardinia: 0.005
Value with Sardinia: ~0.007

Ukranians-Northern Italians: 0.005
Ukrainians-Piedmont: 0.006
Ukrainians-Tuscany: 0.006
Ukranians-Abruzzo: 0.007
Ukranians-Sicilians: 0.008
Ukranians-Sardinians: 0.015

Value without Sardinia: ~0.006
Value with Sardinia: 0.008

Three separate studies with different samples and different FST values showing the same thing. Which makes sense; Italians as a whole received Caucasus Hunter Gatherer ancestry independent of Steppe_EMBA so that structures them towards.....well......what we call the "Caucasus". And since I specifically mentioned Armenia, I'm stopping there, but you can check out other values.

That dumb edited Lazaridis PCA WON'T work on me. You don't know what a PCA is; PCAs can show anything you want it. If we compare humans to chimps, all humans bundle up in a single sample. If we compare Cretans with Ashkenazim with Palestinians with Druze, Cretans and Ashkenazim bunch up because Cretans and Ashkenazim share more variance (this also debunks Zionist crap too). However, when we look at Cretans and Ashkenazim by themselves, they're separate.

Similarly when WESTERN EURASIANS are compared to other groups on a WORLDWIDE BASIS, then WESTERN EURASIANS (not "European" or "Middle Eastern" nonsense categories) then this happens.

On a related note:

PS: Don't ever talk about Ukraine again you Russian piece of shit. Your nation, now, but also in the past, has harmed Ukraine more than Turkey ever could. So much for "European/Slavic brotherhood". Don't talk about affairs you don't know about. Speak with knowledge or shut up.

 

[drchad]

Kill this thread

keep seeing this shit pop up

 

[drchad]

Yo mods BAN this n***a

Ah yes, using this edited PCA from outdated 2014 study as a last resort.

Firstly, these labels weren't included in the PCA; use the actual PCA.

View attachment 291496

2. There are Sicilian samples in that "Jewish cluster". Are Sicilians "Jews"? Are Maltese "Jews"? Where are the "North Africans" in the "Middle East and North African cluster? Are we talking about Maghrebi Jews? Those are quite distinct from the Muslims of those countries and they certainly don't cluster with Arabians.

3. Learn how to read:

"Two sets of European populations are poor fits for the model. Sicilians, Maltese, and Ashkenazi Jews have EEF estimates of >100% consistent with their having more Near Eastern ancestry than can be explained via EEF admixture (SI17). They also cannot be jointly fit with other Europeans (SI14), and they fall in the gap between European and Near Easterners (Fig. 1B). Finns, Mordovians and Russians (from the northwest of Russia) also do not fit (SI14; Extended Data Table 3) due to East Eurasian gene flow into the ancestors of these northeastern European populations. These populations (and Chuvash and Saami) are more related to East Asians than can be explained by ANE admixture (Extended Data Fig. 7), likely reflecting a separate stream of Siberian gene flow into northeastern Europe (SI14)."

4. Do you even know what a PCA is?

They are visual projections of variance, not literal distance maps.

Two big things people mess up constantly:
The axes are arbitrary rotations of variance.
Visual closeness ≠ exact genetic distance unless you compute it numerically (FST, outgroup f3, etc.).

You can literally:

Change the populations included
Change sample sizes
Change scaling
Crop the plot
Rotate the axes
…and the visual impression changes dramatically.
That’s why using a cropped PCA to make civilizational arguments is… unserious.

Besides, there's a clear cline and Ukraine is far west whilst the Italians from Tuscany and Bergamo are quite a bit east of them and Sicilians and Southern Italians are east of those. Use your fingers to cover the distance.

5. That same study has admixture from

Ukrainian
EEF: 0.462
WHG: 0.387
ANE: 0.151

Bergamo
EEF: 0.715
WHG: 0.177
ANE: 0.108

Tuscan
EEF: 0.746
WHG: 0.136
ANE: 0.118

Sicilian
EEF: 0.903
WHG: 0
ANE: 0.097

6. Again, outdated study from 2014 is irrelevant. Why 2014? Why just that one? Why didn't you use Kovacevic's study from the same year with her PCA/FST?

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Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers

Contemporary inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula belong to several ethnic groups of diverse cultural background. In this study, three ethnic groups from Bosnia and Herzegovina - Bosniacs, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs - as well as the populations of Serbians, Croatians, Macedonians from the...

journals.plos.org

"Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers" by Kovacevic et al 2014

Why not 2016 from the same Lazaridis?

Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East - PMC

We report genome-wide ancient DNA from 44 ancient Near Easterners ranging in time between ~12,000-1,400 BCE, from Natufian hunter-gatherers to Bronze Age farmers. We show that the earliest populations of the Near East derived around half their ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East" by Lazaridis et al 2016.

"We computed squared allele frequency differentiation between all pairs of ancient West Eurasians<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5003663/#R28">28</a> (Methods; Fig. 3; Extended Data Fig. 2b; Extended Data Fig. 4), and found that the populations at the four corners of the quadrangle had differentiation of FST=0.08-0.15, comparable to the value of 0.09-0.13 seen between present-day West Eurasians and East Asians (Han) (Supplementary Data Table 3). In contrast, by the Bronze Age, genetic differentiation between pairs of West Eurasian populations had reached its present-day low levels (Fig. 3): today, FST is ≤0.025 for 95% of the pairs of West Eurasian populations and ≤0.046 for all pairs (Fig. 3). These results point to a demographic process that established high differentiation across West Eurasia and then reduced this differentiation over time."

But if you wanna squarely compare Ukraine and Russia to Italian populations vs various Near Eastern populations, there is an FST table located.

Ukrainian-Italian North-0.005
Ukrainian-Sicilian: 0.008
Ukrainian-Sardinian: 0.016
Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.007
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.01

Russian-Italian North-0.009
Russian-Sicilian: 0.01
Russian-Sardinian: 0.02


Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.01
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.013

Since I mentioned Armenians specifically, I'll talk about Armenians specifically.

Armenian-Italian North-0.006
Armenian-Sicilian: 0.004
Armenian-Sardinian: 0.015


Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.005
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.008

What about "Genetic affinities of the Jewish populations of India" by Chaubey et al 2016 with its FST tables?

Genetic affinities of the Jewish populations of India - PMC

Due to the lack of written records or inscription, the origin and affiliation of Indian Jewish populations with other world populations remain contentious. Previous genetic studies have found evidence for a minor shared ancestry of Indian Jewish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ukranians-Northern Italians: 0.006
Ukranians-Tuscans: 0.007
Ukranians-Sardinians: 0.016

Value without Sardinia: ~0.007
Value with Sardinia: ~0.01

Russians-Northern Italians: 0.009
Russians-Tuscans: 0.01
Russians-Sardinians: 0.02

Value without Sardinia: ~0.01
Value with Sardinia: 0.013

Armenians-Northern Italians: 0.006
Armenians-Tuscans: 0.005
Armenians-Sardinians: 0.014

Value wthout Sardinia: ~0.006
Value with Sardinia: ~0.008

Let's not stop there. What about Tamm et al 2019?

Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy - PMC

Despite being the fourth largest island in the Mediterranean basin, the genetic variation of Corsica has not been explored as exhaustively as Sardinia, which is situated only 11 km South. However, it is likely that the populations of the two islands ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy" by Tamm et al 2019


View attachment 291516

Also, we can bring up FST values with Ukrainians vs Italians vs Armenians AGAIN to see if this is just a fluke

Armenians-Northern Italians: 0.008
Armenians-Piedmont: 0.005
Armenians-Tuscany: 0.005
Armenians-Abruzzo: 0.004
Armenians-Sicilians: 0.003
Armenians-Sardinians: 0.015

Value without Sardinia: 0.005
Value with Sardinia: ~0.007

Ukranians-Northern Italians: 0.005
Ukrainians-Piedmont: 0.006
Ukrainians-Tuscany: 0.006
Ukranians-Abruzzo: 0.007
Ukranians-Sicilians: 0.008
Ukranians-Sardinians: 0.015

Value without Sardinia: ~0.006
Value with Sardinia: 0.008

Three separate studies with different samples and different FST values showing the same thing. Which makes sense; Italians as a whole received Caucasus Hunter Gatherer ancestry independent of Steppe_EMBA so that structures them towards.....well......what we call the "Caucasus". And since I specifically mentioned Armenia, I'm stopping there, but you can check out other values.

That dumb edited Lazaridis PCA WON'T work on me. You don't know what a PCA is; PCAs can show anything you want it. If we compare humans to chimps, all humans bundle up in a single sample. If we compare Cretans with Ashkenazim with Palestinians with Druze, Cretans and Ashkenazim bunch up because Cretans and Ashkenazim share more variance (this also debunks Zionist crap too). However, when we look at Cretans and Ashkenazim by themselves, they're separate.

Similarly when WESTERN EURASIANS are compared to other groups on a WORLDWIDE BASIS, then WESTERN EURASIANS (not "European" or "Middle Eastern" nonsense categories) then this happens.

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On a related note:

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PS: Don't ever talk about Ukraine again you Russian piece of shit. Your nation, now, but also in the past, has harmed Ukraine more than Turkey ever could. So much for "European/Slavic brotherhood". Don't talk about affairs you don't know about. Speak with knowledge or shut up.

 

[eternal love]

Ah yes, using this edited PCA from outdated 2014 study as a last resort.

Firstly, these labels weren't included in the PCA; use the actual PCA.

View attachment 291496

2. There are Sicilian samples in that "Jewish cluster". Are Sicilians "Jews"? Are Maltese "Jews"? Where are the "North Africans" in the "Middle East and North African cluster? Are we talking about Maghrebi Jews? Those are quite distinct from the Muslims of those countries and they certainly don't cluster with Arabians.

3. Learn how to read:

"Two sets of European populations are poor fits for the model. Sicilians, Maltese, and Ashkenazi Jews have EEF estimates of >100% consistent with their having more Near Eastern ancestry than can be explained via EEF admixture (SI17). They also cannot be jointly fit with other Europeans (SI14), and they fall in the gap between European and Near Easterners (Fig. 1B). Finns, Mordovians and Russians (from the northwest of Russia) also do not fit (SI14; Extended Data Table 3) due to East Eurasian gene flow into the ancestors of these northeastern European populations. These populations (and Chuvash and Saami) are more related to East Asians than can be explained by ANE admixture (Extended Data Fig. 7), likely reflecting a separate stream of Siberian gene flow into northeastern Europe (SI14)."

4. Do you even know what a PCA is?

They are visual projections of variance, not literal distance maps.

Two big things people mess up constantly:
The axes are arbitrary rotations of variance.
Visual closeness ≠ exact genetic distance unless you compute it numerically (FST, outgroup f3, etc.).

You can literally:

Change the populations included
Change sample sizes
Change scaling
Crop the plot
Rotate the axes
…and the visual impression changes dramatically.
That’s why using a cropped PCA to make civilizational arguments is… unserious.

Besides, there's a clear cline and Ukraine is far west whilst the Italians from Tuscany and Bergamo are quite a bit east of them and Sicilians and Southern Italians are east of those. Use your fingers to cover the distance.

5. That same study has admixture from

Ukrainian
EEF: 0.462
WHG: 0.387
ANE: 0.151

Bergamo
EEF: 0.715
WHG: 0.177
ANE: 0.108

Tuscan
EEF: 0.746
WHG: 0.136
ANE: 0.118

Sicilian
EEF: 0.903
WHG: 0
ANE: 0.097

6. Again, outdated study from 2014 is irrelevant. Why 2014? Why just that one? Why didn't you use Kovacevic's study from the same year with her PCA/FST?

View attachment 291515



View attachment 291513

Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers

Contemporary inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula belong to several ethnic groups of diverse cultural background. In this study, three ethnic groups from Bosnia and Herzegovina - Bosniacs, Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs - as well as the populations of Serbians, Croatians, Macedonians from the...

journals.plos.org

"Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and Haploid Markers" by Kovacevic et al 2014

Why not 2016 from the same Lazaridis?

Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East - PMC

We report genome-wide ancient DNA from 44 ancient Near Easterners ranging in time between ~12,000-1,400 BCE, from Natufian hunter-gatherers to Bronze Age farmers. We show that the earliest populations of the Near East derived around half their ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Genomic insights into the origin of farming in the ancient Near East" by Lazaridis et al 2016.

"We computed squared allele frequency differentiation between all pairs of ancient West Eurasians<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5003663/#R28">28</a> (Methods; Fig. 3; Extended Data Fig. 2b; Extended Data Fig. 4), and found that the populations at the four corners of the quadrangle had differentiation of FST=0.08-0.15, comparable to the value of 0.09-0.13 seen between present-day West Eurasians and East Asians (Han) (Supplementary Data Table 3). In contrast, by the Bronze Age, genetic differentiation between pairs of West Eurasian populations had reached its present-day low levels (Fig. 3): today, FST is ≤0.025 for 95% of the pairs of West Eurasian populations and ≤0.046 for all pairs (Fig. 3). These results point to a demographic process that established high differentiation across West Eurasia and then reduced this differentiation over time."

But if you wanna squarely compare Ukraine and Russia to Italian populations vs various Near Eastern populations, there is an FST table located.

Ukrainian-Italian North-0.005
Ukrainian-Sicilian: 0.008
Ukrainian-Sardinian: 0.016
Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.007
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.01

Russian-Italian North-0.009
Russian-Sicilian: 0.01
Russian-Sardinian: 0.02


Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.01
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.013

Since I mentioned Armenians specifically, I'll talk about Armenians specifically.

Armenian-Italian North-0.006
Armenian-Sicilian: 0.004
Armenian-Sardinian: 0.015


Averaged FST without Sardinia: ~0.005
Averaged FST with Sardinia: ~0.008

What about "Genetic affinities of the Jewish populations of India" by Chaubey et al 2016 with its FST tables?

Genetic affinities of the Jewish populations of India - PMC

Due to the lack of written records or inscription, the origin and affiliation of Indian Jewish populations with other world populations remain contentious. Previous genetic studies have found evidence for a minor shared ancestry of Indian Jewish ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ukranians-Northern Italians: 0.006
Ukranians-Tuscans: 0.007
Ukranians-Sardinians: 0.016

Value without Sardinia: ~0.007
Value with Sardinia: ~0.01

Russians-Northern Italians: 0.009
Russians-Tuscans: 0.01
Russians-Sardinians: 0.02

Value without Sardinia: ~0.01
Value with Sardinia: 0.013

Armenians-Northern Italians: 0.006
Armenians-Tuscans: 0.005
Armenians-Sardinians: 0.014

Value wthout Sardinia: ~0.006
Value with Sardinia: ~0.008

Let's not stop there. What about Tamm et al 2019?

Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy - PMC

Despite being the fourth largest island in the Mediterranean basin, the genetic variation of Corsica has not been explored as exhaustively as Sardinia, which is situated only 11 km South. However, it is likely that the populations of the two islands ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Genome-wide analysis of Corsican population reveals a close affinity with Northern and Central Italy" by Tamm et al 2019


View attachment 291516

Also, we can bring up FST values with Ukrainians vs Italians vs Armenians AGAIN to see if this is just a fluke

Armenians-Northern Italians: 0.008
Armenians-Piedmont: 0.005
Armenians-Tuscany: 0.005
Armenians-Abruzzo: 0.004
Armenians-Sicilians: 0.003
Armenians-Sardinians: 0.015

Value without Sardinia: 0.005
Value with Sardinia: ~0.007

Ukranians-Northern Italians: 0.005
Ukrainians-Piedmont: 0.006
Ukrainians-Tuscany: 0.006
Ukranians-Abruzzo: 0.007
Ukranians-Sicilians: 0.008
Ukranians-Sardinians: 0.015

Value without Sardinia: ~0.006
Value with Sardinia: 0.008

Three separate studies with different samples and different FST values showing the same thing. Which makes sense; Italians as a whole received Caucasus Hunter Gatherer ancestry independent of Steppe_EMBA so that structures them towards.....well......what we call the "Caucasus". And since I specifically mentioned Armenia, I'm stopping there, but you can check out other values.

That dumb edited Lazaridis PCA WON'T work on me. You don't know what a PCA is; PCAs can show anything you want it. If we compare humans to chimps, all humans bundle up in a single sample. If we compare Cretans with Ashkenazim with Palestinians with Druze, Cretans and Ashkenazim bunch up because Cretans and Ashkenazim share more variance (this also debunks Zionist crap too). However, when we look at Cretans and Ashkenazim by themselves, they're separate.

Similarly when WESTERN EURASIANS are compared to other groups on a WORLDWIDE BASIS, then WESTERN EURASIANS (not "European" or "Middle Eastern" nonsense categories) then this happens.

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too long to read that chatgpt bullshit, DNR.

On a related note:

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PS: Don't ever talk about Ukraine again you Russian piece of shit. Your nation, now, but also in the past, has harmed Ukraine more than Turkey ever could. So much for "European/Slavic brotherhood". Don't talk about affairs you don't know about. Speak with knowledge or shut up.

why shouldn't i talk about ukraine? And even if my nation did harm to them, what makes you think that I don't consider it good? Maybe I'm a sadist JFL. and ukrainians share history and genetics with us, so as we share east slavic language. we are brothers

 

[tjlfmz]

Just aren't but ok

damn ur pale asf go outside

 

[syrian_lily141]

It's like 75% of the forum

i speak british do i count