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Why do women get mad when I say clubbing makes them lower value

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It is a mutual thing, in a clubbing setting

For a woman: You are going to an area with intoxicated men willingly (which is inherently supposed to be unsafe) who have intentions of hooking up. You are then intoxicating yourself which then lowers your standards and gives these random men an easier time in taking you. It is an active form of self devaluation.

For men: You are going to the club so you have an easier time with women, you may struggle with women normally, or be too lazy to establish a basis of meaningful connection (hints to your hollowness) so you go clubbing to wait for women to be intoxicated so you can have an easier time trying to get them. It is quite a low thing to do.

Addition for the woman: A man who found you at a club and started dating you will 99% have the predisposed belief that you are not a long term material, and he may see you as replaceable. Remember, the only reason he went there was to find a physically attractive intoxicated girl. He is not going to take you as seriously as someone else. He is always going to know you willingly went there to get picked up on by random men while intoxicated, so the relationship basis has no chivalry to begin with.

Mutual: There is no relationship history in these settings, it is much different than drinking with a mixed gendered group you know (e.g a party with friends or just a hangout) as there is already a concrete interpersonal connection between you all.

For events though, there is a different main motive as to why people go there, it is for the event. My words are not applicable here at all, going to events are for limited time entertainment you may miss, it is very understandable, and being intoxicated can enhance the experience of the event.

Still, clubbing doesn’t ruin a person, people can be much deeper than just a blank judgement, but most people are also quite blank.
 
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It is a mutual thing, in a clubbing setting

For a woman: You are going to an area with intoxicated men willingly (which is inherently supposed to be unsafe) who have intentions of hooking up. You are then intoxicating yourself which then lowers your standards and gives these random men an easier time in taking you. It is an active form of self devaluation.

For men: You are going to the club so you have an easier time with women, you may struggle with women normally, or be too lazy to establish a basis of meaningful connection (hints to your hollowness) so you go clubbing to wait for women to be intoxicated so you can have an easier time trying to get them. It is quite a low thing to do.

Addition for the woman: A man who found you at a club and started dating you will 99% have the predisposed belief that you are not a long term material, and he may see you as replaceable. Remember, the only reason he went there was to find a physically attractive intoxicated girl. He is not going to take you as seriously as someone else. He is always going to know you willingly went there to get picked up on by random men while intoxicated, so the relationship basis has no chivalry to begin with.

Mutual: There is no relationship history in these settings, it is much different than drinking with a mixed gendered group you know (e.g a party with friends or just a hangout) as there is already a concrete interpersonal connection between you all.

For events though, there is a different main motive as to why people go there, it is for the event. My words are not applicable here at all, going to events are for limited time entertainment you may miss, it is very understandable, and being intoxicated can enhance the experience of the event.

Still, clubbing doesn’t ruin a person, people can be much deeper than just a blank judgement, but most people are also quite blank.
I don’t enjoy clubs for this reason tbh. The whole point is getting girls in so they attract more men willing to spend money on the girls. You’re lowkey selling yourself by going there. Bars are more fun as you can just chill with your friends without getting kissed without wanting to cause a guy let you on his table.
 
ur reading too much into it not everyone is going to the club to hook up, but i get where u are coming from. the only answer is men and women have different values and moral standings
Majority of people go to clubs to hook up, especially talk to any fucking guy before they go clubbing they go with the intent to hook up, women know this. To deny this is kinda retarded, but yes you are right, people value different things
 
Majority of people go to clubs to hook up, especially talk to any fucking guy before they go clubbing they go with the intent to hook up, women know this. To deny this is kinda retarded, but yes you are right, people value different things
lowkey i should rephrase what i said cause ya ur right a majority of people do use the club to hook up. i mean moreso my perspective as a woman myself is i’d go to drink and have fun dancing with female friends but ya tldr; ppl value different things and women in 2026 are very liberal about everything
 

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