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Why do women want to feel included in everything?

i guess bro, i was just using it as an example

if surgery isn’t physical self enhancement then what even is it

i do agree it’s not even logical for women to self improve because shit will be handed to them regardless
Hyperreal simulacrum, learn what this means
 
No, you don’t want a KHHV man just because he’s KHHV.

The type of KHHV you’re talking about is someone who’s good-looking and is KHHV willingly or simply hasn’t pursued relationships yet.


The KHHV men on looksmaxxing forums are there because they’re unattractive.
I don't have a problem with most unattractive men. I probably wouldn't go for anyone sub3 (which, by the way, is incredibly rare) but I've definitely liked ltns for aspects such as intelligence or emotional compatibility. I'm not too great myself, hltb-lmtb on any given day according to the site. I'm not going to be overly picky.
No.
Stupid analogy


The “ask the fisherman, not the fish” analogy only works if your fisherman is representative of fishermen in general. A niche looksmaxxing forum full of balding incels isn’t. The men there are disproportionately obsessed with appearance, misogynistic often unsuccessful in dating, quite unnattractive and have biases that the average guy doesn’t.

And judging by the type of man you’ve described, I don’t think your fisherman analogy applies to this forum at all.
I don't deal with just anyone on the forum regarding looks, there are moderators and highly knowledgeable users my age I can go to. I've never posted a rating thread publicly because there are always trolls and simps and men like you've described. you could make an argument that the mods and skilled users are overly obsessed with appearance, but since I plan on getting advice from them and not dating them, I can take the looks advice and maybe cast aside dating advice or leave it to other people to fulfill. And you're right, most males aren't suitable for dating advice. I take mostly female opinions in dating advice, but my point was that male input is still useful to me sometimes.
So if anything, you're just proving me right
You're right about some things, but I'm not just here to date or get attention. I'm here to improve my looks.
 
We incels are like commies in a way, we hate you foids slaying every day while we rot khhv, it's sad rly but normal in today's hyperreal simulacrum on these forums, it's sad rly, the top 1% as Bernie used to say
I'm khhv still
 
I'm khhv still
Ur 18 and khhv as a female ?

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I don't have a problem with most unattractive men. I probably wouldn't go for anyone sub3 (which, by the way, is incredibly rare) but I've definitely liked ltns for aspects such as intelligence or emotional compatibility. I'm not too great myself, hltb-lmtb on any given day according to the site. I'm not going to be overly picky.

I don't deal with just anyone on the forum regarding looks, there are moderators and highly knowledgeable users my age I can go to. I've never posted a rating thread publicly because there are always trolls and simps and men like you've described. you could make an argument that the mods and skilled users are overly obsessed with appearance, but since I plan on getting advice from them and not dating them, I can take the looks advice and maybe cast aside dating advice or leave it to other people to fulfill. And you're right, most males aren't suitable for dating advice. I take mostly female opinions in dating advice, but my point was that male input is still useful to me sometimes.

You're right about some things, but I'm not just here to date or get attention. I'm here to improve my looks.
What?

At first you were arguing that you wanted male input because “asking the fisherman” was better than asking women. Now you’re saying you ignore most of the men there, avoid the trolls and incels, take female advice for dating, and only listen to a handful of experienced users for looks advice????


So we’ve gone from “the male perspective is important” to “I only trust a very small subset of users in a small, niche community” That’s a completely different argument.


If your goal is simply improving your appearance, then sure, experienced users may or may not have useful advice. But that doesn’t make the forum representative of what men generally find attractive, nor does it make it a better source than female beauty communities at all. It just means you’ve found a few knowledgeable individuals in a small, niche community.


That’s a much narrower claim than where we started, and it’s basically the point I was making from the beginning.

So basically, you just accepted the fact that,
women would generally be better off in female-focused beauty communities, using male opinions as a supplement if they want them, not entering and ruining a male-dominated looksmaxxing forum their primary source of advice, just because they're jealous and want to feel apart of everything men have.
 
What?

At first you were arguing that you wanted male input because “asking the fisherman” was better than asking women. Now you’re saying you ignore most of the men there, avoid the trolls and incels, take female advice for dating, and only listen to a handful of experienced users for looks advice????


So we’ve gone from “the male perspective is important” to “I only trust a very small subset of users in a small, niche community” That’s a completely different argument.


If your goal is simply improving your appearance, then sure, experienced users may or may not have useful advice. But that doesn’t make the forum representative of what men generally find attractive, nor does it make it a better source than female beauty communities at all. It just means you’ve found a few knowledgeable individuals in a small, niche community.


That’s a much narrower claim than where we started, and it’s basically the point I was making from the beginning.
I was getting off track, I apologize.
So basically, you just accepted the fact that,
women would generally be better off in female-focused beauty communities, using male opinions as a supplement if they want them, not entering and ruining a male-dominated looksmaxxing forum their primary source of advice, just because they're jealous and want to feel apart of everything men have.
I don't think this forum is a male-dominated forum, though. Had I snuck into org and started asking for advice there I think your words would have more weight, but there's a very big percentage of females here. I look for input from both genders. I'm not "entering and ruining" the forum, the forum allowed me here to begin with. It would be an issue if I came here to fish for compliments and not do anything about my looks, but I've gotten substantially better-looking because of the advice I've been given. I actively participate and try to help others out, I'm not here because of some grudge against males.
 
I don't think this forum is a male-dominated forum, though. Had I snuck into org and started asking for advice there I think your words would have more weight, but there's a very big percentage of females here. I look for input from both genders. I'm not "entering and ruining" the forum, the forum allowed me here to begin with. It would be an issue if I came here to fish for compliments and not do anything about my looks, but I've gotten substantially better-looking because of the advice I've been given. I actively participate and try to help others out, I'm not here because of some grudge against males.
No, there are definitely still more males here. The entire concept of looksmaxxing originated from a male-dominated online space and was primarily designed around male experiences, insecurities, and standards.

The fact that you’ve improved from the advice doesn’t necessarily prove women should be allowed. People can get useful information from almost anywhere if they filter enough. The question is whether women-focused beauty communities would provide more relevant and balanced advice.


So, again my point is women don't belong in a forum originating from a male concept, and it would be better for both men and women to keep to their own forums.
 
No, there are definitely still more males here. The entire concept of looksmaxxing originated from a male-dominated online space and was primarily designed around male experiences, insecurities, and standards.

The fact that you’ve improved from the advice doesn’t necessarily prove women should be allowed. People can get useful information from almost anywhere if they filter enough. The question is whether women-focused beauty communities would provide more relevant and balanced advice.


So, again my point is women don't belong in a forum originating from a male concept, and it would be better for both men and women to keep to their own forums.
your argument is valid and I see why you see it that way, but I am going to remain on here because in this instance I am allowed to, and it is both useful and fun.
 
yeah I was rejected 5 times and then gave up
Fuck man, then u must have pretty high standards or sumthing, I'm sure like 99% of males ur age in this forum would Date you
 
Fuck man, then u must have pretty high standards or sumthing, I'm sure like 99% of males ur age in this forum would Date you
I have mental issues and have an extremely hard time falling in love. I tend to like people who display indifference or disdain for me for whatever reason. they were all pretty much my looksmatches.
 
I have mental issues and have an extremely hard time falling in love. I tend to like people who display indifference or disdain for me for whatever reason. they were all pretty much my looksmatches.
Fuck man, ngl every foid in here seems to have their own issues now that I think abt, u have these masochistic tendencies and people like me have schizophrenia and autism, sad shi in this hyperreal simulacrum innit, tbh I'm lowkey mirin being khhv at 18 as a female, that's sum peak shit
 
Fuck man, ngl every foid in here seems to have their own issues now that I think abt, u have these masochistic tendencies and people like me have schizophrenia and autism, sad shi in this hyperreal simulacrum innit, tbh I'm lowkey mirin being khhv at 18 as a female, that's sum peak shit
I appreciate it. I was insanely lonely and depressed for a while in highschool (I had options, but wasn't willing to date someone I wasn't in love with) but second semester senior year I stopped giving a fuck, gave up, and now I don't plan on romantic pursuits until I get my degree.
 
I appreciate it. I was insanely lonely and depressed for a while in highschool (I had options, but wasn't willing to date someone I wasn't in love with) but second semester senior year I stopped giving a fuck, gave up, and now I don't plan on romantic pursuits until I get my degree.
Ur 18 right? So I'm judging u have 1 year left, baking it off an eu school system
 
I graduated in May, going to college this august
Never forget to not indulge in reality denial or a hyperreal simulacrum if you will, yk u foids shouldn't do drugs like me to cope
 
I'm waiting till I get my college degree, wish me luck when I'm 22 haha
That's sum dedication ngl, even I will proly fuck an escort by then
 
idk we'll see how it goes. my virginity is paywalled by marriage and I only date to marry
Tbf better than being a slut like 99% of foids nowadays, I'm admiring you mate, a true symbol of .comes virtue
 
Because it's a male-dominating concept, designed to make men attract woman, you can receive "looks advice", in other forums, including but not limited to reddit...

There's absolutely zero reason for you to be here, other then coming here for the opposite gender
women are the og looksmaxxers its just very sugar coated but there nonetheless
 

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