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Lifefuel / Motivation why is nutrition the most misunderstood topic on this thread

-associative studies and epidimiology

u cant make this shit up

n***a make an argument wtf

mediterranean diet alwasy had meat

everyone knows it includes meat and some saturated fat. that doesn’t refute the point.

the studies show that plant-forward components (vegetables, fruits, legumes, olive oil, nuts) drive the cardiometabolic benefit, even when meat is present. you don’t have to avoid meat entirely to get protective effects.

saturated fats btw jfl

irrelevant.

mediterranean meat was mostly lean, grass-fed, and eaten in context of high MUFA/PUFA intake from olive oil and fish. the epidemiology shows total cardiovascular risk reduction, not total elimination of meat.

"muh they ate meat” weak fucking strawman.

japanese eat a lot of red meat and fat and fish btw

modern japanese red meat consumption ≠ ancestral intake.

centuries of largely plant-centric, fermented, and seafood-heavy diet are the protective factors. today’s increased red meat intake does not reverse all benefits, but historically, it was never the majority of calories.

+ you're cherry picking modern or culturally adapted diets. japanese and mediterranean populations historically consumed moderate meat, but massive plant and fiber intake, with high omega-3 intake from fish in japan. hence why these populations thrived. the protective effects come from plant and marine sources interacting with protein/fat instead of the absence of meat.

you have presented 0 fucking proof so far for these absurd claims btw
 
We'll discuss further there when I do

we can privately debate and just settle this shit instead of making countless of meaningless threads.
 
we can privately debate and just settle this shit instead of making countless of meaningless threads.
It's better to be public imo since ppl can understand and learn
I'll make sure to tag you when I do make the thread
 
. the epidemiology shows total cardiovascular risk reduction, not total elimination of meat.
are u a r****d???? epidemiology is not even a science, its just researchers interviewing people on their fucking experience, thats not science, people can lie u f****t oh my god u are raising my cortisol
 
are u a r****d???? epidemiology is not even a science, its just researchers interviewing people on their fucking experience, thats not science, people can lie u f****t oh my god u are raising my cortisol
Calm down g clam down
 
It's better to be public imo since ppl can understand and learn
I'll make sure to tag you when I do make the thread

we can debate privately, present the arguments, and then present it to the public once everything is settled. In the midst of the debate, I don't want to get side tracked and debate someone else.

I want to debate you.

there's no way you're deliberately ducking this.
 
are u a r****d???? epidemiology is not even a science, its just researchers interviewing people on their fucking experience, thats not science, people can lie u f****t oh my god u are raising my CORTISOL

stop sperging, son. debate me on this. even privately. idrc.
 

  • The Inuit of the Canadian Arctic thrived on fish, seal, walrus and whale meat.
  • The Chukotka of the Russian Arctic lived on caribou meat, marine animals and fish.
  • The Masai, Samburu, and Rendille warriors of East Africa survived on diets consisting primarily of milk and meat.
  • The steppe nomads of Mongolia ate mostly meat and dairy products.
  • The Sioux of South Dakota enjoyed a diet of buffalo meat.
  • The Brazilian Gauchos nourished themselves with beef.
keep coping boyo
@holy

debunk this
 
we can debate privately, present the arguments, and then present it to the public once everything is settled. In the midst of the debate, I don't want to get side tracked and debate someone else.

I want to debate you.

there's no way you're deliberately ducking this.
I don't like "debating" online and if you noticed I did not "debate" any moment of this thread, I am just responding , discussing. I will make a thread attacking epidemiology. You can respond in it's defense
Yes I am ducking this because I am too lazy to actively debate online and get bored while typing.
 
2 people ducking btw at the current moment. I fucking love this site.
 
2 people ducking btw at the current moment. I fucking love this site.
I literally explained why I don't want to "debate" . His reasons are more dogmatic but I did explain to you
 
how tf does that even correlate? @Nihilus let's be honest, debating private = scared????
I mean it might indicate so but it doesn't necessarily mean so
Why don't you just make a thread and debunk his last claim
 
Why don't you just make a thread and debunk his last claim

I get to organize my evidence, control my logic, and anticipate counterpoints without random retards derailing the argument. once we've settled the debate internally, we can THEN present a concise, fully supported case publicly without any misinterpretation, strawmen, and other shit.
 

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