Discussion Why women learning MMA for self defense is ppintless

[Preston_Real]

Although despite the size disadvantage a very skilled and strong woman can beat some guys up with below average builds. Skills and viciousness are more important than just raw size I agree with that but I don't want the foids here to get a false sense of security thinking they are going to beat guys up by learning MMA or going to the gym. It just doesn't happen in real life. You may be able to defeat guys on the judo mat but street fights are nastier. The standard advice of feinting, clinches, short uppercut, liver punches don't work in real life.

One slip and he gets hold of you it is over. Men are much stronger, faster and violent.Men's bones are also much thicker. A strong punch from even an average guy is enough to put a woman in a hospital. It's just biology. The odds are against you. Don't bother fighting. To all women reading instead of wasting time on MMA for self defense. If you are in danger make a lot of noise, scream, shout and run away. Avoid going out at night without the company of a man you can trust. If the push comes to shove carry a pepper spray or taser and use it. That is much better than engaging in a bare knuckles fight with a guy.

 

[Preston_Real]

@Brezel @pompompurino @RainbowDash @fable @d6rk.knight

 

[d6rk.knight]

fact skill wont save you against a 300 lb 6’7 pound line backer pinning your arms back with ease

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Although despite the size disadvantage a very skilled and strong woman can beat some guys up with below average builds. I don't want the foids here to get a false sense of security thinking they are going to beat guys up by learning MMA. It just doesn't happen in real life. You may be able to defeat guys on the judo mat but street fights are much nastier. The standard advice of feinting, clinches, short uppercut don't work in real life. One slip and he gets hold of you it is over. Men are much stronger, faster and violent.Men's bones are also much thicker. A strong punch from even an average guy is enough to put a woman in the hospital. Its just biology. The odds are against you. Don't bother fighting. To all women reading instead of wasting time on MMA for self defense. If you are in danger make a lot of noise, scream, shout and run away. Avoid going out at night without the company of a man you can trust. If the push comes to shove carry a pepper spray or taser and use it. That is much better than engaging in a bare knuckles fight with a guy.

Women need a high level of MMA to beat a regular guy. But in street fights dudes will grab your hair, low kick you etc, plus your hands will not be protected so you'll a high rish of hand fractures, just like boxers, unless you're familliar with knee and elbows strikes.

BJJ is a better alternatives. You have more chances to choke a dude into coma than knock him out cold, especially if they're on drugs, alcohol or any kind of medications.

Women should start to avoid dangerous places and if you can't, learn how to sprint, carry a gun if you're in the US, or carry a knife if you live in Europe.

My gf will carry a folding knife. I rather like she end up at the justice court than being r4ped and/or k!lled by a dude who will be free in 7 years

 

[Preston_Real]

fact skill wont save you against a 300 lb 6’7 pound line backer pinning your arms back with ease

You don't even need a guy of those proportions to dominate a woman. Even an average 5'10 175lbs guy can dominate most women unless she has years of MMA experience and has been in street fights before.

 

[Preston_Real]

Women need a high level of MMA to beat a regular guy. But in street fights dudes will grab your hair, low kick you etc, plus your hands will not be protected so you'll a high rish of hand fractures, just like boxers, unless you're familliar with knee and elbows strikes.

BJJ is a better alternatives. You have more chances to choke a dude into coma than knock him out cold, especially if they're on drugs, alcohol or any kind of medications.

Women should start to avoid dangerous places and if you can't, learn how to sprint, carry a gun if you're in the US, or carry a knife if you will in Europe.

My gf will carry a folding knife. I rather like she end up at the justice court than being r4ped and/or k!lled by a dude who will be free in 7 years

I agree BJJ uses leverages but in street fight type situation you do not want to go to the ground to engage with them. Unless the woman exactly knows how to get in thr position of a choke without being dominated. Choking a guy is impossible.

 

[choripan]

To be honest no one should get into a street fight. Your opponent could have
-friends nearby
-hidden sharp object
-gun
-enhanced by drug like cocaine ruta make him feel no pain and a lot of adrenaline

 

[Preston_Real]

To be honest no one should get into a street fight. Your opponent could have
-friends nearby
-hidden sharp object
-gun
-enhanced by drug like cocaine ruta make him feel no pain and a lot of adrenaline

Indeed the most high IQ thing you can do is a walk away. Picking up random fights and ending up with injuries and consequences from authorities that can be easily avoided by just keeping your male ego in check is stupid. I've seen many people ruining their lives because they couldn't control their impulses. One punch homicides are not a rare occurance. Rusticated from uni, police cases for assault, getting jumped on by gangs etc etc

You never know thr kind of person you picked a fight with. He could be gangster with weapons for all you know. It's best to walk away from it or just run. Only fight if there's really no other option. Anyone who does MMA would also tell you do the same. You win 100% of all thr fights that you don't fight

 

[lemonpie]

Although despite the size disadvantage a very skilled and strong woman can beat some guys up with below average builds. Skills and viciousness are more important than just raw size I agree with that but I don't want the foids here to get a false sense of security thinking they are going to beat guys up by learning MMA or going to the gym. It just doesn't happen in real life. You may be able to defeat guys on the judo mat but street fights are much nastier. The standard advice of feinting, clinches, short uppercut, liver punches don't work in real life.

One slip and he gets hold of you it is over. Men are much stronger, faster and violent.Men's bones are also much thicker. A strong punch from even an average guy is enough to put a woman in the hospital. Its just biology. The odds are against you. Don't bother fighting. To all women reading instead of wasting time on MMA for self defense. If you are in danger make a lot of noise, scream, shout and run away. Avoid going out at night without the company of a man you can trust. If the push comes to shove carry a pepper spray or taser and use it. That is much better than engaging in a bare knuckles fight with a guy.

This has been proven many times. For example, in 1998, Karsten Braasch competed against the William sisters in tennis. The sisters were both top ranking female athletes whilst Karsten was below rank 200, yet he won both matches. This is just one of many similar tests.

Ive heard alot of personal experiences from female sprinters who admit that, against a man, they do not stand a chance.

Your post points out a good point and i agree. Your same arguments could also be used to forbit trannies from competing in the wrong places. Its truly sad to see when a woman spends her whole life training to compete, only to have some deformed shemale win because of biological reasons.

 

[Clone]

Women should learn to master weapons but mma is also good because alot of guys in modern day think they are stronger than the average women but idk at my mma gym the are some women mid 20s they are strong asf they would destroy the average guy and put him the hospital

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

I agree BJJ uses leverages but in street fight type situation you do not want to go to the ground to engage with them. Unless the woman exactly knows how to get in thr position of a choke without being dominated. Choking a guy is impossible.

I'm a former brown belt, you need at least purple belt level to be able to handle a crazy man. And this is the optimal scenario, if the back of your head didn't hit the concrete or the aggressor didn't landed strikes

 

[choripan]

Indeed the most high IQ thing you can do is a walk away. Picking up random fights and ending up with injuries and consequences from authorities that can be easily avoided by just keeping your male ego in check is stupid. I've seen many people ruining their lives because they couldn't control their impulses. One punch homicides are not a rare occurance. Rusticated from uni, police cases for assault, getting jumped on by gangs etc etc

You never know thr kind of person you picked a fight with. He could be gangster with weapons for all you know. It's best to walk away from it or just run. Only fight if there's really no other option. Anyone who does MMA would also tell you do the same. You win 100% of all thr fights that you don't fight

I think the best self-defense thing is pepper spray, since drugged people could or could not be affected by taser
You can use it if the aggressor comes too close and gives you time and advantage to run away since they can't see well

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Women should learn to master weapons but mma is also good because alot of guys in modern day think they are stronger than the average women but idk at my mma gym the are some women mid 20s they are strong asf they would destroy the average guy and put him the hospital

it's not the majority of women

 

[Preston_Real]

I'm a former brown belt, you need at least purple belt level to be able to handle a crazy man. And this is the optimal scenario, if the back of your head didn't hit the concrete or the aggressor didn't landed strikes

If your head hits the concrete you are dead on the spot. Most one punch homicide are because of the head hitting the concrete after they get knocked out not the punch itself.

 

[Clone]

it's not the majority of women

Ik imo everyone should do mma because of punchers chance

 

[Preston_Real]

Women should learn to master weapons but mma is also good because alot of guys in modern day think they are stronger than the average women but idk at my mma gym the are some women mid 20s they are strong asf they would destroy the average guy and put him the hospital

In MMA with a rules and refree sure but in a street wirh no rules. Those chances are non existent.

 

[lemonpie]

I rather like she end up at the justice court than being r4ped and/or k!lled by a dude who will be free in 7 years

7 years... My country literally put an immigrant who r***d and murdered his gf in for only 2 years.

Another time a an immigrant r***d 2 women in a HOSPITAL, whilst he was on trial from this crime he was granted citizenship.
Another man r***d multiple women. Got put in prison for some time and when he got out, he was granted 100k dollars for having spend 1 month extra in prison than he was supposed to.

 

[Clone]

In MMA with a rules and refree sure but in a street wirh no rules. Those chances are non existent.

No they kick the bag which is pretty heavy and you can see the power they also spar pretty hard the average guy has a chance but it's very low

 

[Preston_Real]

No they kick the bag which is pretty heavy and you can see the power they also spar pretty hard the average guy has a chance but it's very low

In real life scenario a man would just throw himself over the woman or just try to punch her in the head from behind because of more reach. Like I said in the post if you are highly trained with experience it can be done but it's better to carry a weapon. Do MMA as a hobby, for physical fitness. That is fine but self defence is meh.

 

[Slicer]

7 years... My country literally put an immigrant who r***d and murdered his gf in for only 2 years.

Another time a an immigrant r***d 2 women in a HOSPITAL, whilst he was on trial from this crime he was granted citizenship.
Another man r***d multiple women. Got put in prison for some time and when he got out, he was granted 100k dollars for having spend 1 month extra in prison than he was supposed to.

What country? Probably in Europe is my guess, they are an extremely wicked continent for the most part, way worse than the United States

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

7 years... My country literally put an immigrant who r***d and murdered his gf in for only 2 years.

Another time a an immigrant r***d 2 women in a HOSPITAL, whilst he was on trial from this crime he was granted citizenship.
Another man r***d multiple women. Got put in prison for some time and when he got out, he was granted 100k dollars for having spend 1 month extra in prison than he was supposed to.

Yeah it's the same thing here in France. We have now feminists and the left who tried to bury the "Philipine case" because the man who r***d & killed this 2nd girl was an immigrant, who was asked to leave the country asap. He has done 7 years and r***d & killed this 2nd girl. The judges are out of their mind, or they hate women idk

 

[Clone]

In real life scenario a man would just throw himself over the woman or just try to punch her in the head from behind because of more reach. Like I said in the post if you are highly trained with experience it can be done but it's better to carry a weapon. Do MMA as a hobby, for physical fitness. That is fine but self defence is meh.

The good thing about mma is that you can use different martial arts for every scenario so if a guy was going to punch a female mma fighter she would shoot for the take down and choke him out

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

No they kick the bag which is pretty heavy and you can see the power they also spar pretty hard the average guy has a chance but it's very low

But can they avoid strikes ? are they good in sparring or on the pads ?

 

[lemonpie]

What country? Probably in Europe is my guess

sweden lmao

way worse than the United States

are you being ironic

Yeah it's the same thing here in France

 

[Slicer]

sweden lmao

are you being ironic

No, I'm saying that Europe is like 15 years ahead of the USA, but in a bad way not a good way. Alot more liberal and they care more about the criminal than the victim there

 

[Clone]

But can they avoid strikes ? are they good in sparring or on the pads ?

Yeah they are good in sparing they train muay thai and wrestling probably other things but idk

 

[Preston_Real]

sweden lmao

are you being ironic

It's not just muslims that do this tho.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Yeah unfortunately, the most majority of aggressions on women come from extra europeean men who want pure virgin trad wives but would r4pe a white girl as a side hustle

 

[Slicer]

Honestly I believe people should carry firearms, especially women

 

[lemonpie]

No, I'm saying that Europe is like 15 years ahead of the USA, but in a bad way not a good way. Alot more liberal and they care more about the criminal than the victim there

well this is just simply not true.
Immigration is indeed a real problem and i agree with you about the system caring more about the immigrants than their victims. However, the citizens of europe are typically against this. Europe is more traditional than the us and not only on the immigration problem. Though the leaders of our country might respect a trans person for example, that person is not likely to fit in well in society due to transphobia. In the us on the other hand, theres probably a dozen rallies they can attend, multiple friends to befriend and many wrong bathrooms to enter. Many such examples can be made.

 

[Preston_Real]

Yeah unfortunately, the most majority of aggressions on women come from extra europeean men who want pure virgin trad wives but would r4pe a white girl as a side hustle

Most men that seem to r**e these white girls seem to do it not out of sexual frustration but to prove some kind of point. They see it like as a form of retaliation to the west bombing their countries. The russian shootings last year was because Russia mercilessly carpet bombed their homes for years. They do it out of spite.

 

[lemonpie]

Yeah unfortunately, the most majority of aggressions on women come from extra europeean men who want pure virgin trad wives but would r4pe a white girl as a side hustle

its so sad

 

[lemonpie]

It's not just muslims that do this tho.

true but stereotypically

 

[lemonpie]

Most men that seem to r**e these white girls seem to do it not out of sexual frustration but to prove some kind of point. They see it like as a form of retaliation to the west bombing their countries. The russian shootings last year was because Russia mercilessly carpet bombed their homes for years. They do it out of spite.

revenge only continues the cycle of evil

 

[Preston_Real]

revenge only continues the cycle of evil

Keeping quite against injustice is just as much of a crime.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

Most men that seem to r**e these white girls seem to do it not out of sexual frustration but to prove some kind of point. They see it like as a form of retaliation to the west bombing their countries. The russian shootings last year was because Russia mercilessly carpet bombed their homes for years. They do it out of spite.

It's dumb because white women are not responsible of that. Only politicians

well this is just simply not true.
Immigration is indeed a real problem and i agree with you about the system caring more about the immigrants than their victims. However, the citizens of europe are typically against this. Europe is more traditional than the us and not only on the immigration problem. Though the leaders of our country might respect a trans person for example, that person is not likely to fit in well in society due to transphobia. In the us on the other hand, theres probably a dozen rallies they can attend, multiple friends to befriend and many wrong bathrooms to enter. Many such examples can be made.

Europe turn more far-right since the last elections. People are tired of politicians bs

its so sad

IDK why women continue to defend their executioners

 

[Slicer]

well this is just simply not true.
Immigration is indeed a real problem and i agree with you about the system caring more about the immigrants than their victims. However, the citizens of europe are typically against this. Europe is more traditional than the us and not only on the immigration problem. Though the leaders of our country might respect a trans person for example, that person is not likely to fit in well in society due to transphobia. In the us on the other hand, theres probably a dozen rallies they can attend, multiple friends to befriend and many wrong bathrooms to enter. Many such examples can be made.

From everything I heard they are more liberal. That's why the Olympics held in Paris started with a mockery of the last supper. Also alot of those countries have easier abortion laws than us no?

 

[lemonpie]

Keeping quite against injustice is just as much of a crime.

not at all. Revenge triggers more revenge, especially when they are taking out their revenge on people who didnt directly do the revegable offence. It will cause way more damage than just swallowing your pride or finding a non violent solution to what has been done to you.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

From everything I heard they are more liberal. That's why the Olympics held in Paris started with a mockery of the last supper. Also alot of those countries have easier abortion laws than us no?

Olympics is just leftist politicians fantasy, french never cared that much

Plus here abortions aren't used as contraceptives. The french healthcare allow for free birth control pills and condoms

 

[Preston_Real]

It's dumb because white women are not responsible of that. Only politicians


Europe turn more far-right since the last elections. People are tired of politicians bs


IDK why women continue to defend their executioners

You could say the same thing for the victims of those bombing attacks too. It's the politicians with their extremist policies that caused the conflict. Not the common man so why did Russia have to carpet bomb them? They could have sent troops and selectively destroyed the strategic points with missiles but it would be too expensive so they just bombed the entire place. If their people's lives has lesser value than a few thousand dollars fo Russia. Why should they value the lives of rusisan people?

 

[Whitepill]

women just need weapons or how to naturally fight. same for men tho

 

[Clone]

naturally fight

Won't work against a trained fighter

 

[Whitepill]

Won't work against a trained fighter

it literally does. trained fighters are forced to use manmade rules

 

[Preston_Real]

not at all. Revenge triggers more revenge, especially when they are taking out their revenge on people who didnt directly do the revegable offence. It will cause way more damage than just swallowing your pride or finding a non violent solution to what has been done to you.

These things only sound good on paper and Disney books. The truth is you need a strong deterrence to set boundaries and guard your sovereignty fearlessly for the welfare if your kind. This is hippie tier let's hold hands and sing together doesn't work in global politics. Eye for an eye and head for a head. That is how it always has been.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

You could say the same thing for the victims of those bombing attacks too. It's the politicians with their extremist policies that caused the conflict. Not the common man so why did Russia have to carpet bomb them? They could have sent troops and selectively destroyed the strategic points with missiles but it would be too expensive so they just bombed the entire place. If their people's lives has lesser value than a few thousand dollars fo Russia. Why should they value the lives of rusisan people?

It's an endless cycle with that logic. Women don't deserve to be r4ped because some politicians decided to nuke civilians in an another country. Plus you just add hate for your own nationality/race/religion, and other men will want to k!ll you or put you in a jail because you're a possible threat to their women. Endless circle

 

[lemonpie]

From everything I heard they are more liberal.

no

That's why the Olympics held in Paris started with a mockery of the last supper

Truly a disgusting thing of them. But had the Olympics been held in the us, the very same thing/something similar would occur. Many countries in europe are practicing Christians. My country however is very heretical. Mostly evangelic churches. The people in my country would not speak against this event because of the mockery of Christ. I doubt they would even recognise the reference to the last supper. However, they would speak against it because of the disgusting male strippers. Just because they arent religious doesnt mean that they are necessarily homosexual abortion freak liberals. I would say they are more centrist to rightwing.

Also alot of those countries have easier abortion laws than us no?

Totally agree on this one for the western part of Europe. However your abortion bans were only a recent development, and has faced more backlash than they would if they were european. But your point stands and i hope that my country takes after the us on this.

 

[Clone]

it literally does. trained fighters are forced to use manmade rules

No how it works they would kill the average person outside the ring

 

[Preston_Real]

It's an endless cycle with that logic. Women don't deserve to be r4ped because some politicians decided to nuke civilians in an another country. Plus you just add hate for your own nationality/race/religion, and other men will want to k!ll you or put you in a jail because you're a possible threat to their women. Endless circle

Yes there is no logical end to this topic. People from these countries are deeply religious, firmly convinced that they are doing the right thing, and view this as a holy war. The emotional and dramatic element stems from their faith. You are fighting an ideology not just a few people. You kill one 10 will pop up to come back to fight because they think it's the Nobel and the righteous thing to do. There's rationally no end to such conflicts.

 

[lemonpie]

These things only sound good on paper and Disney books. The truth is you need a strong deterrence to set boundaries and guard your sovereignty fearlessly for the welfare if your kind. This is hippie tier let's hold hands and sing together doesn't work in global politics. Eye for an eye and head for a head. That is how it always has been.

worst take i ever heard. Surprising how you dont see how this intensifies haltered and violence in the longrun. Whats best for "your kind" right now isnt always whats best for "your kind" in the future.

 

[Whitepill]

No how it works they would kill the average person outside the ring

keep barking