Discussion Why women learning MMA for self defense is ppintless

[Clone]

keep barking

"Natual fighter" after entering a mma gym

 

[Preston_Real]

worst take i ever heard. Surprising how you dont see how this intensifies haltered and violence in the longrun. Whats best for "your kind" right now isnt always whats best for "your kind" in the future.

False. Conflicts like these have happened since centuries. Human beings are by nature selfish, greedy and opportunistic. What happens now always decides what will happen to you in the future. Just look at the fall and rise of empires through out history. War is how conflicts have always been settled. Violence is part of who we are as species.

 

[Brezel]

Facts my father always wanted me to do muay thai to defend myself but track makes way more sense tbh

 

[lemonpie]

What happens now always decides what will happen to you in the future.

you should ponder on this

War is how conflicts have always been settled.

war has never been settled. Once a war is done, according to your logic, revenge is in order. Have you forgotten what we were talking about ?
Take isis for example. In what way has their revenge on the us benefitted them in the long run?
War is the main source for the revenge in question in many cases.

If your point is correct and violence can truly not end by not taking revenge, it still does not help your point. It does not make revenge a better option. Revenge will only hurt more people and begin and endless cycle of suffering.

Violence is part of who we are as species.

and so is pride. You are putting pride over the safety of innocents. Some of those innocent people are "your people"

 

[try2bechad]

I would say women need guns but i doubt they will use them properly

 

[damiankater]

I agree BJJ uses leverages but in street fight type situation you do not want to go to the ground to engage with them. Unless the woman exactly knows how to get in thr position of a choke without being dominated. Choking a guy is impossible.

This a retarded take bro

 

[Preston_Real]

This a retarded take bro

Why's that?

 

[damiankater]

Why's that?

You bring a point how a women has to know which positions she has to get in to choke someone. This is literally the whole point of bjj and she'd learn within 6 months of doing bjj if she went regularly this isn't any different from a man. Also the whole point of this thread is retarded I have personal experience that this isn't the case and I've seen with my own eyes this is what someone who doesn't train thinks and I see it everytime a new guy trains with an experienced female, he thinks he'll crush her with muh strength and aggression (just see red bro) and he gets utterly fucked up the whole time.

 

[damiankater]

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Cope

 

[Preston_Real]

You bring a point how a women has to know which positions she has to get in to choke someone. This is literally the whole point of bjj and she'd learn within 6 months of doing bjj if she went regularly this isn't any different from a man.

Also the whole point of this thread is retarded I have personal experience that this isn't the case and I've seen with my own eyes this is what someone who doesn't train thinks and I see it everytime a new guy trains with an experienced female, he thinks he'll crush her with muh strength and aggression (just see red bro) and he gets utterly fucked up the whole time.

In BJJ you generally train with someone similar in size. Someone much stronger and bigger than you is significantly harder to get hold of like @TonyTheLooksmaxxDR said. It's very hard you need a lot of experience and I already train in boxing. I even said I wasn't talking about in an official match I'm talking about a street fight with 0 rules. There's even a video of a woman with orange belt in taekwondo I think getting assaulted by some street thug.

 

[damiankater]

In BJJ you generally train with someone similar in size. Someone much stronger and bigger than you is significantly harder to get hold of like @TonyTheLooksmaxxDR said. It's very hard you need a lot of experience and I already train in boxing. I even said I wasn't talking about in an official match I'm talking about a street fight with 0 rules. There's even a video of a woman with orange belt in taekwondo I think getting assaulted by some street thug.

1. No you train with many people of different sizes
2. Yes you need more experience but tell me how that means women shouldn't train ?
3.dont Compare taekwo doe to bjj

 

[James Othy]

Although despite the size disadvantage a very skilled and strong woman can beat some guys up with below average builds. Skills and viciousness are more important than just raw size I agree with that but I don't want the foids here to get a false sense of security thinking they are going to beat guys up by learning MMA or going to the gym. It just doesn't happen in real life. You may be able to defeat guys on the judo mat but street fights are nastier. The standard advice of feinting, clinches, short uppercut, liver punches don't work in real life.

One slip and he gets hold of you it is over. Men are much stronger, faster and violent.Men's bones are also much thicker. A strong punch from even an average guy is enough to put a woman in a hospital. It's just biology. The odds are against you. Don't bother fighting. To all women reading instead of wasting time on MMA for self defense. If you are in danger make a lot of noise, scream, shout and run away. Avoid going out at night without the company of a man you can trust. If the push comes to shove carry a pepper spray or taser and use it. That is much better than engaging in a bare knuckles fight with a guy.

Guns baby! Guns guns guns! Fuck a tazer. One of the first things I did when coming to the States was have my wife get a concealed pistol permit. And bought her a Glock 19 and a 6 shot 38 revolver.

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

In BJJ you generally train with someone similar in size. Someone much stronger and bigger than you is significantly harder to get hold of like @TonyTheLooksmaxxDR said. It's very hard you need a lot of experience and I already train in boxing. I even said I wasn't talking about in an official match I'm talking about a street fight with 0 rules. There's even a video of a woman with orange belt in taekwondo I think getting assaulted by some street thug.

You're right it's too much training for hazardous results. Most women aren't committed to martial arts like the few female pro fighters. There is zero rules in the streets. Every sane woman in the U.S should have a gun carry & training like @James Othy said. For europe, my gf will have an One hand opening knife and a pepper spray

 

[TonyTheLooksmaxxDR]

You bring a point how a women has to know which positions she has to get in to choke someone. This is literally the whole point of bjj and she'd learn within 6 months of doing bjj if she went regularly this isn't any different from a man. Also the whole point of this thread is retarded I have personal experience that this isn't the case and I've seen with my own eyes this is what someone who doesn't train thinks and I see it everytime a new guy trains with an experienced female, he thinks he'll crush her with muh strength and aggression (just see red bro) and he gets utterly fucked up the whole time.

BJJ is useful but not that useful in IRL fight with no rules. For example i've explained to a woman a guillotine choke will be easily stopped by an aggressive man if he decide to strike your ribs with a sharp object, or if decide to get up, put his forearm on your head and slam you on the concrete floor, you're basically dead.

Martial arts are good, but not enough. If you can sprint and carry a knife, you'll be good

 

[damiankater]

BJJ is useful but not that useful in IRL fight with no rules. For example i've explained to a woman a guillotine choke will be easily stopped by an aggressive man if he decide to strike your ribs with a sharp object, or if decide to get up, put his forearm on your head and slam you on the concrete floor, you're basically dead.

Martial arts are good, but not enough. If you can sprint and carry a knife, you'll be good

Nig you're acting like she can't let go, also none is trying to stay on bottom in a street fight