Why's there a "mewing" sub-forum here?

[ypertatos]

Mewing is a debunked pseudoscience peddled by subhuman jesters praying on retarded tiktok-kids; it's completely useless. It just smears the forums reputation, there's no reason to keep it up. What's the overall forum consensus on it too?

 

[Aryy]

so @TonyDr can mod it

 

[glamora]

mewing isnt necessarily retarted however its not gonna drastically change your looks past the age of 11ish.
although its not completely bullshit because its basic orthotropic knowledge that proper tounge posture in development years is drastic to maxillary and airway development.

 

[ypertatos]

so @TonyDr can mod it

Why would he want more work than he already has?

mewing isnt necessarily retarted however its not gonna drastically change your looks past the age of 11ish.
although its not completely bullshit because its basic orthotropic knowledge that proper tounge posture in development years is drastic to maxillary and airway development.

It's useless. No one here is under the age of 13, and mewing during early-childhood is still not proven affective by any credible means. Even in theory, children wouldn't maintain correct or consistent posture, so it's really just pointless

 

[glamora]

Why would he want more work than he already has?


It's useless. No one here is under the age of 13, and mewing during early-childhood is still not proven affective by any credible means. Even in theory, children wouldn't maintain correct or consistent posture, so it's really just pointless

Children in development directly benefit from proper tounge posture and theres been multiple studies on it. It is how we are supposed to be at rest and promotes healthy breathing habits. If the technique is taught during early development then children will adapt to it which will benefit them. Its common knowledge that mouth breathing leads to undeveloped profiles and collapsed airways. Proper tounge posture seals the lips and prevents that. If theres constant force on the upper palatal suture, wouldnt it be expected that the palate would naturally widen to compensate for the space?

However this is not by any means the only factor in childrens facial development, proper swallowing, posture, etc also contributes to it. The reason that subsection is likely still on here is because adults can benefit from it to. While it wont change current facial structure, it lifts the hyoid which contributes to aesthetics.

 

[ypertatos]

Children in development directly benefit from proper tounge posture and theres been multiple studies on it. It is how we are supposed to be at rest and promotes healthy breathing habits. If the technique is taught during early development then children will adapt to it which will benefit them. Its common knowledge that mouth breathing leads to undeveloped profiles and collapsed airways. Proper tounge posture seals the lips and prevents that. If theres constant force on the upper palatal suture, wouldnt it be expected that the palate would naturally widen to compensate for the space?

I'm not supporting mouth-breathing; that's retarded. Instructing your kids to nose-breathe is easy, however teaching them mewing techniques is far more complicated; it'd be a hassle to ensure "correct" posture. And what studies are you talking about? There's no credible instances that prove mewings effectiveness, only case-study's and anecdotes. Additionally, all the theory work is subject to fault given the inclusive data, and in multiple models can be shown to negatively effect development instead of aid

 

[glamora]

I'm not supporting mouth-breathing; that's retarded. Instructing your kids to nose-breathe is easy, however teaching them mewing techniques is far more complicated; it'd be a hassle to ensure "correct" posture. And what studies are you talking about? There's no credible instances that prove mewings effectiveness, only case-study's and anecdotes. Additionally, all the theory work is subject to fault given the inclusive data, and in multiple models can be shown to negatively effect development instead of aid

People subconsciously do it anyways. Everytime you swallow you're actively doing proper tounge posture, there would be no hassle in teaching them one other thing, same way you would always remind a child to fix their rounded shoulders or what not.
Ive done my own research on orthotropic and myofunctional habits and how they affect the palate and theyre fairly positive besides a few anecdotes which I dont think disprove the ideology as "mewing" is a relatively new thinking. Im not promoting hard mewing but its a given that if constant pressure is applied on an open suture, it will eventually expand to compensate for the space.

 

[ypertatos]

People subconsciously do it anyways. Everytime you swallow you're actively doing proper tounge posture, there would be no hassle in teaching them one other thing, same way you would always remind a child to fix their rounded shoulders or what not.
Ive done my own research on orthotropic and myofunctional habits and how they affect the palate and theyre fairly positive besides a few anecdotes which I dont think disprove the ideology as "mewing" is a relatively new thinking. Im not promoting hard mewing but its a given that if constant pressure is applied on an open suture, it will eventually expand to compensate for the space.

If you're talking about passive-tongue posture, it wouldn't be too hard, i was under the impression of so-called "hard mewing" as you mentioned. Though i still disagree on the importance; it's not researched enough to be conclusive, so it's up to interpretation method-by-method. Looksmaxings a science by nature and should remain as such, i don't see the point in bothering with theory's when there's other practical applications under the umbrella. It's an open-ended argument

 

[glamora]

If you're talking about passive-tongue posture, it wouldn't be too hard, i was under the impression of so-called "hard mewing" as you mentioned. Though i still disagree on the importance; it's not researched enough to be conclusive, so it's up to interpretation method-by-method. Looksmaxings a science by nature and should remain as such, i don't see the point in bothering with theory's when there's other practical applications under the umbrella. It's an open-ended argument

Thats exactly what im talking about. Hard mewing is unnatural and strains the facial muscles over time; not to mention no viable research. Regarding passive tounge-posture, the only studies really "debunking" it are undermining its effects on adults, which i agree with. However reinforcing it in children could be beneficial as it forces them to nasal breathe and doesnt cause much harm therefore i dont see a point in "not letting" them in a sense. Looksmaxxing is also very trial and error and relies a good amount of its information on anecdotes. However I appreciate this debate and hearing your input on things.