Discussion Women have lower (and easier to achieve) beauty standerds then men.

[RedishH3ro]

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[paulyune]

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In my experience it’s the opposite

 

[TheHouseThatJackBuilt]

In my experience it’s the opposite

LOLLLLLLL

 

[foidslayer]

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water

 

[MoidSlayer10000]

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Not at all

 

[RedishH3ro]

Not at all

Explain

 

[RedishH3ro]

In my experience it’s the opposite

How?

 

[foidslayer]

In my experience it’s the opposite

why ru denying the hypergamy like its not the most water shit out there

 

[paulyune]

why ru denying the hypergamy like its not the most water shit out there

Well ur a guy obviously ur gonna think u have it worse but there’s more beauty standards for women than men…. Like for women everything has to be perfect if a guy has a flaw its considered cute bc yk aw cute flaws but if a girl has one she’s considered ugly and lame, if she’s pretty she’s a whore. I could go on and on

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

In my experience it’s the opposite

literally how

take physique for example, peak attractive woman physique is easily naturally attainable

peak attractive physique for men often requires PED use and/or extreme dieting and training (genetics play a huge factor here too with frame/insertions)

 

[paulyune]

literally how

take physique for example, peak attractive woman physique is easily naturally attainable

peak attractive physique for men often requires PED use and/or extreme dieting and training

well most women aren’t into peak attractive physique that “men” think r good ur stuff is kinda male gaze focused

 

[TheHouseThatJackBuilt]

literally how

take physique for example, peak attractive woman physique is easily naturally attainable

peak attractive physique for men often requires PED use and/or extreme dieting and training (genetics play a huge factor here too with frame/insertions)

https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/members/zyzzreincarnate.42

 

[RedishH3ro]

Well ur a guy obviously ur gonna think u have it worse but there’s more beauty standards for women than men…. Like for women everything has to be perfect if a guy has a flaw its considered cute bc yk aw cute flaws but if a girl has one she’s considered ugly and lame, if she’s pretty she’s a whore. I could go on and on

This is just straight up bullshit bruh. You litteraly have 10 pounds of makeup on to fix all your flaws in your pfp

 

[foidslayer]

Well ur a guy obviously ur gonna think u have it worse but there’s more beauty standards for women than men…. Like for women everything has to be perfect if a guy has a flaw its considered cute bc yk aw cute flaws but if a girl has one she’s considered ugly and lame, if she’s pretty she’s a whore. I could go on and on

there's legit countless studies i can link rn that back me up. It's not about opinion men have it worse when it comes to beauty standards.

 

[paulyune]

This is just straight up bullshit bruh. You litteraly have 10 pounds of makeup on to fix all your flaws in your pfp

Not me in my pfp

 

[foidslayer]

This is just straight up bullshit bruh. You litteraly have 10 pounds of makeup on to fix all your flaws in your pfp

that's not her in her pfp

 

[paulyune]

there's legit countless studies i can link rn that back me up. It's not about opinion men have it worse when it comes to beauty standards.

Well I’m not gonna argue with you because you’ll always think you’re right.

 

[RedishH3ro]

well most women aren’t into peak attractive physique that “men” think r good ur stuff is kinda male gaze focused

"Male gaze focused"🫩🫩

 

[paulyune]

"Male gaze focused"🫩🫩

It is I fear

 

[foidslayer]

well most women aren’t into peak attractive physique that “men” think r good ur stuff is kinda male gaze focused

 

[foidslayer]

Well I’m not gonna argue with you because you’ll always think you’re right.

I don't think i know im right because im backed by countless studies over the years.

 

[RedishH3ro]

that's not her in her pfp

Sorry mb

 

[paulyune]

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It’s an example and not all women want the same thing u can’t put a genders opinion in a box

 

[foidslayer]

It’s an example and not all women want the same thing u can’t put a genders opinion in a box

yes its an example of what women think is an average physique paulyune.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

well most women aren’t into peak attractive physique that “men” think r good ur stuff is kinda male gaze focused

my physique is way far past peak attractive physique lol i wasnt talking about myself

The model physique in this photo is what I meant by peak male attractive physique

 

[RedishH3ro]

It is I fear

Litteraly all girls have to do is not be fat or have a severe disability. The rest is easily fixable. Theres a girl with servere rescession on tiktok but she has big boobs and alot of makeup and guys are thirsting for her.

 

[foidslayer]

my physique is way far past peak attractive physique lol i wasnt talking about myself

The model physique in this photo is what I meant by peak male attractive physique
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they'll just tell you its easily attainable lmfao

 

[necrotic]

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Objectively in a normal social setting, men are just expected to not be dirty and have minimum hygiene and an athletic built.
But in lm there are definitely more things that men could improve on than women.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

they'll just tell you its easily attainable lmfao

nah i highly doubt the women here are that delusional. if you're a girl here then you definitely understand the brutality of attaining a physique

 

[foidslayer]

Objectively in a normal social setting, men are just expected to not be dirty and have minimum hygiene and an athletic built.
But in lm there are definitely more things that men could improve on than women.

What men are actually expected to have:

its the reason lm forums exist.

 

[foidslayer]

nah i highly doubt the women here are that delusional. if you're a girl here then you definitely understand the brutality of attaining a physique

you'd be surprised

 

[paulyune]

Men will say it's men, and women will say it's women. Men dont feel the pressure that women feel, and women dont feel the pressure that men feel. As a woman, I feel like its us, but I've never been a man so I can't know what it's like.
I think the most important thing, is that men and women have largely different views on what it means to work towards looking attractive or desirable, so it doesn't quite make sense to compare the two, in terms of who's "putting in more effort towards it".

People on both sides who are obsessed with achieving the ideal physique. Isn’t that true for women as well? Waist, hip and boob size cannot be altered without extensive and often dangerous plastic surgery (height, btw, can also be altered), and hair growth applies to women even more than to men. If you are a men and become fit, you will look at least half-decent, but if you are a women with a naturally masculine body type, there is almost nothing you can do in the gym to improve it, and muscles won’t make you more attractive in the eyes of most men. On the other hand, if you are an overall unattractive woman, you will have an easier time finding a partner, because men in general are less choosy.

 

[necrotic]

What men are actually expected to have:

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its the reason lm forums exist.

Come on you know that’s false.

 

[paulyune]

I think biologically it's easier for men to gain muscle and lose fat than it is for women. If you want to be fit, men have it easier.

 

[foidslayer]

Men will say it's men, and women will say it's women. Men dont feel the pressure that women feel, and women dont feel the pressure that men feel. As a woman, I feel like its us, but I've never been a man so I can't know what it's like.
I think the most important thing, is that men and women have largely different views on what it means to work towards looking attractive or desirable, so it doesn't quite make sense to compare the two, in terms of who's "putting in more effort towards it".

People on both sides who are obsessed with achieving the ideal physique. Isn’t that true for women as well? Waist, hip and boob size cannot be altered without extensive and often dangerous plastic surgery (height, btw, can also be altered), and hair growth applies to women even more than to men. If you are a men and become fit, you will look at least half-decent, but if you are a women with a naturally masculine body type, there is almost nothing you can do in the gym to improve it, and muscles won’t make you more attractive in the eyes of most men. On the other hand, if you are an overall unattractive woman, you will have an easier time finding a partner, because men in general are less choosy.

I'm not gonna argue with you because you're gender-biased. Read Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent (A woman)

Recounting an 18 month experiment where she pretended to be a man. Guess what happened? She became depressed and openly admits that men have it harder

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

People on both sides who are obsessed with achieving the ideal physique. Isn’t that true for women as well? Waist, hip and boob size cannot be altered without extensive and often dangerous plastic surgery (height, btw, can also be altered), and hair growth applies to women even more than to men. If you are a men and become fit, you will look at least half-decent, but if you are a women with a naturally masculine body type, there is almost nothing you can do in the gym to improve it, and muscles won’t make you more attractive in the eyes of most men. On the other hand, if you are an overall unattractive woman, you will have an easier time finding a partner, because men in general are less choosy.

 

[TonyDr]

In my experience it’s the opposite

With height and balding issues it's already harder for men imo.
Unless you want to follow the hollywood/elite ideal, women have it easier dating wise

 

[foidslayer]

Come on you know that’s false.

If that's false then why do looksmaxxing forums exist in the first place?

 

[paulyune]

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Both looks fine imo

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Men will say it's men, and women will say it's women. Men dont feel the pressure that women feel, and women dont feel the pressure that men feel. As a woman, I feel like its us, but I've never been a man so I can't know what it's like.
I think the most important thing, is that men and women have largely different views on what it means to work towards looking attractive or desirable, so it doesn't quite make sense to compare the two, in terms of who's "putting in more effort towards it".

I think the main issue lies within the fact that women who are arguably below average still have no shortage of access to attention and validation from the opposite sex

whereas a man who is legit completely average can legit go his entire life devoid of that completely

 

[necrotic]

If that's false then why do looksmaxxing forums exist in the first place?

Lm pushes it to another level. You’ll be fine without having a Neolithic skull trust.

 

[foidslayer]

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Most guys will never reach the physique of the guy on the left btw let alone the guy on the right

 

[foidslayer]

Lm pushes it to another level. You’ll be fine without having a Neolithic skull trust.

Except when I had a weak skull i was constantly bullied and viewed as lesser than others.

 

[paulyune]

With height and balding issues it's already harder for men imo.
Unless you want to follow the hollywood/elite ideal, women have it easier dating wise.

I don’t disagree but also height is a very touchy subject because guys think u needa be rlly tall to get a girl in general but to be honest some girls dgaf and most girls have a decent range. If they’re asking for taller than 6’3 I think that’s obscene. Also balding can be fixed

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

Most guys will never reach the physique of the guy on the left btw let alone the guy on the right

the guy on the left is peaked in terms of body composition most guys will never reach that

but he looks worse than people who've never trained and dont even diet that just have a good frame and good genetics

 

[necrotic]

Except when I had a weak skull i was constantly bullied and viewed as lesser than others.

Hum I never said that skulls are not important. You just showed an absurd picture.

 

[TonyDr]

Also balding can be fixed

Really depends on what type of alopecia is nuking you

 

[foidslayer]

the guy on the left is peaked in terms of body composition most guys will never reach that

but he looks worse than people who've never trained and dont even diet that just have a good frame and good genetics

This is the average male btw. Women consider this extremely ugly, and anything like this and below it are invisible to women which is why they think they have it harder.

 

[paulyune]

Really depends on what type of alopecia is nuking you

True

 

[foidslayer]

Hum I never said that skulls are not important. You just showed an absurd picture.

not absurd. Guys who you find attractive will probably have an 80% match to this skull.