Yikes dude

[Luxe]

I never thought this could happen but my nihilistic world view came directly from my religion.

Ik nihilism and religion in the same sentence sounds retarded but it’s true. Why would I care about stupid earthly things when there is a higher power that is waiting for me

 

[Luxe]

This belief is called Christian platonism btw

 

[Deleted Member 118204]

There isn’t, you will die and that’s the end of your story.

 

[icnone]

Why would I care about stupid earthly things when there is a higher power that is waiting for me

Because that higher power tells you to live your life on earth non-nihilistically

 

[Luxe]

There isn’t, you will die and that’s the end of your story.

No there is an afterlife, even if there isn’t believing it is a good gamble

 

[Deleted Member 118204]

No there is an afterlife, even if there isn’t believing it is a good gamble

Whatever helps you cope, you subconsciously know there isn’t or why wouldn’t you just go to the better afterlife right now?

 

[Luxe]

Because that higher power tells you to live your life on earth non-nihilistically

No he doesn’t, I understand god created this earth but the only real things are perfect forms. For example, there is a “perfect tree” but the tree on earth is flawed and imperfect

I should focus on the afterlife so I can really start my life

 

[Luxe]

Whatever helps you cope, you subconsciously know there isn’t or why wouldn’t you just go to the better afterlife right now?

Bc if I kill myself I would be sinning and sin can’t be in heaven

I sound schizo but I have a relationship with god, so subconsciously I do know there is heaven

It may be faith but in the end it’s high ROI

 

[icnone]

No he doesn’t, I understand god created this earth but the only real things are perfect forms. For example, there is a “perfect tree” but the tree on earth is flawed and imperfect

I should focus on the afterlife so I can really start my life

There is a long time between now and the afterlife. Why not make the most of this life while you still are here?

 

[Away]

No he doesn’t,

he literally does, love is an important part of christianity, if your heart is empty of love for this earthly plane which God himself made WITH love and devotion, then you are not a proper christian.

 

[Luxe]

There is a long time between now and the afterlife. Why not make the most of this life while you still are here?

I would if I could, nothing is fun for me.

I like watching YouTube and working out so I’m kind of enjoying this life

But why work or go through hard times?

 

[Luxe]

he literally does, love is an important part of christianity, if your heart is empty of love for this earthly plane which God himself made WITH love and devotion, then you are not a proper christian.

I don’t need to love gods creation, I love him directly

You don’t need good acts to go to heaven you only need to believe. That’s how Protestant Christianity works

 

[Away]

That’s how Protestant Christianity works

I'm not a protestant, Orthodoxy is law

 

[icnone]

I would if I could, nothing is fun for me.

I like watching YouTube and working out so I’m kind of enjoying this life

But why work or go through hard times?

I think an implication of "don't suicide" is "live your life to the fullest that you can" otherwise why would God create this world if we all planned for the afterlife and did nothing here?

 

[Luxe]

I'm not a protestant, Orthodoxy is law

I respect that but no human will ever be close to god so to try is very humorous

 

[Trevor]

Don't stress yourself with religions

 

[Luxe]

I think an implication of "don't suicide" is "live your life to the fullest that you can" otherwise why would God create this world if we all planned for the afterlife and did nothing here?

Ok define “fullest”

Should I get a 9 to 5 and settle down at 40?

I think the best way to live fully is to travel the world and meet new people maybe a wife and some kids

 

[Luxe]

Don't stress yourself with religions

It’s what gives me meaning

If I didn’t believe in god I would kill myself right now so I can feel peace

 

[Away]

I respect that but no human will ever be close to god so to try is very humorous

Now I'm larping as an orthodox, but pretty sure the whole point is that you spend your life trying to adhere to the laws of god the best you can, of course you will fail, but its the intent and implementation of said intent that counts. You earn your spot in heaven not only through belief, but also through effort to be like Christ or something along those lines. It doesn't make sense to hate everything God created or find it pointless and then claim you love him directly, there's a good poem about this in my language but I doubt it has a translation so I can't show it to you

 

[icnone]

Ok define “fullest”

Should I get a 9 to 5 and settle down at 40?

I think the best way to live fully is to travel the world and meet new people maybe a wife and some kids

"fullest" is up to you to decide

 

[Luxe]

Now I'm larping as an orthodox, but pretty sure the whole point is that you spend your life trying to adhere to the laws of god the best you can, of course you will fail, but its the intent and implementation of said intent that counts. You earn your spot in heaven not only through belief, but also through effort to be like Christ or something along those lines. It doesn't make sense to hate everything God created or find it pointless and then claim you love him directly, there's a good poem about this in my language but I doubt it has a translation so I can't show it to you

“Earn” is where you lose me.

In my religion to go to heaven you need to accept the gift. Obviously you need to try and live good but if you mess up your fine

 

[Away]

In my religion to go to heaven you need to accept the gift. Obviously you need to try and live good but if you mess up your fine

I don't claim that you EARN your spot into heaven in the literal sense, nobody can go into heaven through their own merit, you earn the RIGHT to go there with the sacrifice christ made for you, which you obtain through true belief (IE not only "believing" he exists, but also by following his teachings your entire life and trying to live by the laws God made).

 

[chudlite67]

It’s what gives me meaning

If I didn’t believe in god I would kill myself right now so I can feel peace

What do u think of absurdism?

 

[Luxe]

Ok so essentially the same but Protestant is more about faith alone

I don't claim that you EARN your spot into heaven in the literal sense, nobody can go into heaven through their own merit, you earn the RIGHT to go there with the sacrifice christ made for you, which you obtain through true belief (IE not only "believing" he exists, but also by following his teachings your entire life and trying to live by the laws God made).

 

[Away]

Ok so essentially the same but Protestant is more about faith alone

Most denominations of christianty say the same. I don't think there's a single mainstream one that believes you can rightfully earn a spot in heaven without the help of chirst, it's just the way they go about doing that is a bit different.

 

[Luxe]

What do u think of absurdism?

I see myself as an Christian absurdist in the future, I just need to find what enjoy obviously without sinning

I don’t enjoy anything right now

 

[Trevor]

It’s what gives me meaning

If I didn’t believe in god I would kill myself right now so I can feel peace

Whatever helps you cope ig
I just don't get it how there's a hundred different religions how are we supposed to know which ones right

 

[Luxe]

Most denominations of christianty say the same. I don't think there's a single mainstream one that believes you can rightfully earn a spot in heaven without the help of chirst, it's just the way they go about doing that is a bit different.

I think Catholics believe saints can bring you to heaven

 

[chudlite67]

I see myself as an Christian absurdist in the future, I just need to find what enjoy obviously without sinning

I don’t enjoy anything right now

Ok
Fair enough
Hope u find some peace son

 

[Away]

I think Catholics believe saints can bring you to heaven

I'm pretty sure they don't, but they find praying to saints is fine instead of praying directly to christ/God for whatever reason. They still think the only way to salvation is through christ afaik

 

[Luxe]

Whatever helps you cope ig
I just don't get it how there's a hundred different religions how are we supposed to know which ones right

Yeah that’s real, the reason I believe in Christianity is the theological evidence but eventually i formed a relationship with god and the relationship is the main thing that helps me believe

It could be cope but it is a good gamble

 

[Luxe]

Ok
Fair enough
Hope u find some peace son

Thanks, you too

 

[Luxe]

I'm pretty sure they don't, but they find praying to saints is fine instead of praying directly to christ/God for whatever reason. They still think the only way to salvation is through christ afaik

Ohh ok, I heard they stopped praying to mary