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Yep, people these days lack outrospection. Put yourself in the hands of the unborn even if it's difficult, imagine havign a whole life ahead of you and getting that ruined because of someone else's carelessness/mistakes
 
This isnt cause of Trump lol. Taking a human life is just filthy & wrong
So giving babies a helpless life worth it? What if the baby in the womb has down syndrome?

It is not painful unless you abort very late. Just imagine a 14 yo girl managing a baby which came out of rapist.
 
Living with down syndrome means living a life full of hell. It will be punishment for them to be alive. We can identify the problem in the womb itself.
what makes their life a living hell
 
So giving babies a helpless life worth it? What if the baby in the womb has down syndrome?

It is not painful unless you abort very late. Just imagine a 14 yo girl managing a baby which came out of rapist.
Eugenics
 
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Living with down syndrome means living a life full of hell. It will be punishment for them to be alive. We can identify the problem in the womb itself.
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@cut The first thought that pops up in this guys head when he sees this is, "Better off dead", "Put it out of its misery", "Its life must be Hell"
 
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@cut The first thought that pops up in this guys head when he sees this is, "Better off dead", "Put it out of its misery", "Her life must be Hell"
The same people who are statistically happier on average and immune to caring about lookism or any sort of social ladders have miserable lives and should kick the stool over
 
are you against hookup culture and casual sex as well? i think the two connect clearly
 
are you against hookup culture and casual sex as well? i think the two connect clearly
Yeah I'm against both. Pornography & all other kinds of sexual immorality
Ik you have this idea of me being weird but I really hate that part of me
 
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@cut The first thought that pops up in this guys head when he sees this is, "Better off dead", "Put it out of its misery", "Its life must be Hell"

I am a college educated student. I know more about down syndrome than you. There is a technology to find out down syndrome even before fetus develops feelings.

Women must stop having kids after 40 otherwise it will increase probability. People with down syndrome have a very hard life. They remain dependent on others. Parents have to manage them all the time.
 
I am a college educated student. I know more about down syndrome than you. There is a technology to find out down syndrome even before fetus develops feelings.

Women must stop having kids after 40 otherwise it will increase probability. People with down syndrome have a very hard life. They remain dependent on others. Parents have to manage them all the time.
So again, they should die. That child in the image should die. Your first thought; is in fact is, "This should die."
 
Theres no point in arguing with a demented r*tard who thinks its permissible to kill a literal toddler
Just for the simple fact that they are dependent on their parents.

We ought to value a person with down syndrome over you In all honesty. If you actually believe this to be true
 
So again, they should die. That child in the image should die. Your first thought; is in fact is, "This should die."
Once they are born, let them live. Don't tell them to procreate.

Aborting them is just like aborting babies born out of r**e. Pain happens in later stages of abortion.

I am not a liberal. I have disagreements with both sides. It is better for women to have kids at young age. Sadly, modern world is not letting women and men to start family early. My great grandparents married at 16-20. They had lots of babies.

If we had time machine, lots of criminals, rapists, dictators would have been aborted. If I could go back in time, I would have told moms of Trump, Putin, Weinstein, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Andrew Tate, Thunberg, Genghiz Khan to abort their babies.
 
Once they are born, let them live. Don't tell them to procreate.
Once born, let them live? Why cant you just let him as in in utero?
There is no significant moral distinction between baby in utero @ 9 Months vs Out of Utero. Location isn't a moral distinction.

@cut And yeah this guy 100% Supports Eugenics. This debate is going nowhere

Aborting them is just like aborting babies born out of r**e.
Not at all in the slightest. Both of these cases of abortion are wrong.
Pain happens in later stages of abortion.
It dosen't matter whether or not this baby can feel pain or not. If a person is unable to feel pain it still isnt permissible to take their lives.
I am not a liberal. I have disagreements with both sides. It is better for women to have kids at young age. Sadly, modern world is not letting women and men to start family early. My great grandparents married at 16-20. They had lots of babies.

If we had time machine, lots of criminals, rapists, dictators would have been aborted. If I could go back in time, I would have told moms of Trump, Putin, Weinstein, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Andrew Tate, Thunberg, Genghiz Khan to abort their babies.
"Capital Punishment is just if inflicted on terrible people!" -> "So Capital Punishment is justified on innocent people!"

Your such a deranged r*tard lol
 
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Once born, let them live? Why cant you just let him as in in utero?
There is no significant moral distinction between baby in utero @ 9 Months vs Out of Utero. Location isn't a moral distinction.

@cut And yeah this guy 100% Supports Eugenics. This debate is going nowhere


Not at all in the slightest. Both of these cases of abortion are wrong.

It dosen't matter whether or not this baby can feel pain or not. If a person is unable to feel pain it still isnt permissible to take their lives.

"Capital Punishment is just if inflicted on terrible people!" -> "So Capital Punishment is justified on innocent people!"

Your such a deranged r*tard lol
You don't seem to understand the pain of parents.

If you are a vegan, I can agree with you. Even let disabled to live. If you eat meat and eggs, you are hypocrite.
 
That gets complicated cuz the amount of unwanted babies and overpopulation. That being said abortion should have some exeptions if the baby or mother was gonna die if the child was born, abort it, if its incest, abort it, if the child would have a bad quality of life (extreme disability), abort it.
 
You don't seem to understand the pain of parents.

If you are a vegan, I can agree with you. Even let disabled to live. If you eat meat and eggs, you are hypocrite.
On Value;

Yeah if I said value is only based on levels of sentience & conscious experience. But I don't.
Being simply Human gives you inherent value. Yet it is in conjunct with sentience & conscious experience of course. Not equal, just in conjuct
Human Identity > Consciousness >= Sentience/Sapience

Am I going to give a Fetus - a living member of the Human species Moral value despite not being consciousness or having a (albeit) "low level" of sentience? Yes, as I give a person in comotose them same ( MVS or PVS ); or a person of equivalent sentience or cognitive ability/structure to a fetus ( In Cases of Anencephaly ) ; or one even in death the same. ( Desecration of graves/tombs/burials/corpse is Unjust & Immoral. )
Well, not the SAME - SAME in Death; But you understand I'd still morally value this over an animal. Living / Dead is a big distinction

ONE Human life is worth more than a 1000 Cows, 1000 Sheep, 1000 Mules, 1000 Donkeys, 1000 Horses, & So-on
Not that Animal rights don't exist, For ex. Do I think its permissible to torture these being of other species beings? No.
Now we're going to get into Veganism ->

On Veganism;

We have take their lives humanely for the continuation & prosperity of our species.
On a Vegan diet your missing Vitamin B12, Vitamin D3, Heme Iron, DHA/EPA, Taurine, Creatine, Carnosine, Anserine, and Vitamin K2 (MK-4). Risk defincity in Iron, Zinc, Iodine, Selenium, Calcium, Riboflavin (B2), Retinol (Vitamin A), and Protein Quality. All of these Essential Micro-nutrients/Macronutrients missing -> Malnourishment. What do you think itd gonna happen to your health?

Lets apply this to a greater societal framework. What do you think is going to happen if a given community adopted & practiced this diet for generations?

Malnourished Parents given Birth ( Miraculously ) to Malnoruished Children; Malnourish them. And they live ( Miraculously ) to Give birth ( Miraculously ) Malnourish their Children.

I missed a point here where along ~ 3rd Generation the child is born with ( And miraculously survives )
  • Neural Defects (e.g., spina bifida, anencephaly)
  • Severe Brain Underdevelopment (leading to cognitive disabilities, intellectual impairment)
  • Premature Birth (leading to underdeveloped organs, particularly the lungs and brain)
  • Intrauterine Growth Restriction (IUGR) (low birth weight, organ underdevelopment)
  • Severe Stunting (permanent low height for age, indicating chronic malnutrition)
  • Severe Cognitive Impairment (intellectual disabilities, low IQ, learning disabilities)
  • Severe Immune Dysfunction (high susceptibility to infections, failure to thrive)
  • Permanent Motor Skill Impairments (e.g., cerebral palsy, lack of motor coordination)
  • Chronic Health Conditions (e.g., type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases)
  • Epigenetic Damage (leading to transgenerational health issues)

I'm joking. Their Dead. So, are you 100% Okay with Ending the Human species over the wellbeing of some r*tarded animal that would murder YOU for a second if it was for the wellbeing of THEIR young.

They do the same. We do the same. Diffrence? We know their value. We are still more valuable.
 
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Heres an Explanation of my Entire View on this;

Yeah if I said value is only based on levels of sentience & conscious experience. But I don't.
Being simply Human gives you inherent value. Yet it is in conjunct with sentience & conscious experience of course.

Am I going to give a Fetus - a living member of the Human species Moral value despite not being consciousness or having a low level of sentience? Yes, as I give a person in comotose them same ( MVS or PVS ); or a person of equal sentience to a fetus ( In Cases of Anencephaly ) ; or one even in death the same. ( Desecration of graves/tombs/burials/corpse is Unjust & Immoral. )

ONE Human life is worth more than a 1000 Cows, 1000 Sheep, 1000 Mules, 1000 Donkeys, 1000 Horses, & So-on
Not that Animal rights don't exist, For ex. Do I think its permissible to torture these being of other species beings? No.


On Veganism;

We take their lives humanely for the benefit for our own prospering.
On a Vegan diet your missing Vitamin B12, Vitamin D3, Heme Iron, DHA/EPA, Taurine, Creatine, Carnosine, Anserine, and Vitamin K2 (MK-4). Risk defincity in Iron, Zinc, Iodine, Selenium, Calcium, Riboflavin (B2), Retinol (Vitamin A), and Protein Quality. All of these Essential Micro-nutrients/Macronutrients missing -> Malnourishment. What do you think itd gonna happen to your health?

Lets apply this to a greater societal framework. What do you think is going to happen if a given community adopted & practiced this diet for generations?

Malnourished Parents given Birth ( Miraculously ) to Malnoruished Children; Malnourish them. And they live ( Miraculously ) to Give birth ( Miraculously ) Malnourish their Children.

I missed a point here where alone ~ 3rd Generation the child is born with ( And miraculously survives )
  • Neural Tube Defects (e.g., spina bifida, anencephaly)
  • Severe Brain Underdevelopment (leading to cognitive disabilities, intellectual impairment)
  • Premature Birth (leading to underdeveloped organs, particularly the lungs and brain)
  • Intrauterine Growth Restriction (IUGR) (low birth weight, organ underdevelopment)
  • Severe Stunting (permanent low height for age, indicating chronic malnutrition)
  • Severe Cognitive Impairment (intellectual disabilities, low IQ, learning disabilities)
  • Severe Immune Dysfunction (high susceptibility to infections, failure to thrive)
  • Permanent Motor Skill Impairments (e.g., cerebral palsy, lack of motor coordination)
  • Chronic Health Conditions (e.g., type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases)
  • Epigenetic Damage (leading to transgenerational health issues)

I'm joking. Their Dead. So, are you 100% Okay with Ending the Human species over the wellbeing of some r*tarded animal that would murder YOU for a second if it was for the wellbeing of THEIR young.

They do the same. We do the same. Diffrence? We know their value. We are still more valuable.
I am not vegan. Atleast lacto-vegetarianism is acceptable.

There is no point in arguing with a Trump supporter/MAGA/cuckservative. Kids with down syndrome have a painful life. How many fetuses have down syndrome? Are all parents millionaires who will afford staff for caring for them? Fortunately, babies with down syndrome cannot feel how painful is life when they are in womb.

Abortion is acceptable in some cases. You have no degree like other MAGA people.
 
I am not vegan. Atleast lacto-vegetarianism is acceptable.
Still R*tarded & Obliterated by me
There is no point in arguing with a Trump supporter/MAGA/cuckservative.
This isnt cause of Trump lol. Taking a human life is just filthy & wrong
Are you genuinely R*tarded? When are you going to start engaging with my argument
Ad-homimen = Arugment
Kids with down syndrome have a painful life. How many fetuses have down syndrome? Are all parents millionaires who will afford staff for caring for them? Fortunately, babies with down syndrome cannot feel how painful is life when they are in womb.

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99% PERCENT OF PEOPLE W/ DOWN SYNDROME LOVE THEIR LIVES
YOUR A FUCKING R*TARD HOLYYY SHIT LMAOOOOOO


On Cost;

Given the case that this baby w/ Down Syndrome has no health complications ( Excluding the Syndrome ) which is mostly the case. Cost & nurturing is relatively exactly the same as a normal baby. They eat the same food, drink the same water, breath the same air, shit the same poop, learn the same curriculum ( Diff. levels ), & so on. There are some elective services (physical, occupational, speech therapy) but that cost is low. Coming from a person who went through speech therapy. You don't need to be a millionaire. And again, Its elective.
 
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That gets complicated cuz the amount of unwanted babies and overpopulation.
Unwanted baby = Wanted baby.
And Overpopulation isn't an issue especially here in the U.S. Our GDP far exceeds or population growth. We can sustain Millions more.
That being said abortion should have some exeptions if the baby or mother was gonna die if the child was born,
Cases of a life-threatening pregnancy are answered via C-Section.

Ex. Sepsis, Sepsis is a life-threatening infection that can spread throughout the body, leading to organ failure and shock; The Sepsis is treated via anti-bodies, fluids, & medication. Baby is still delivered or C-section is given to avoid infection or speed up medical assessment & focus on the Sepsis itself rather than the baby. No need to take its life.

if its incest, abort it, if the child would have a bad quality of life (extreme disability), abort it.
Again Eugenics. Whats with Pro-choicers & Eugenics?
 
They do the same. We do the same. Diffrence? We know their value. We are still more valuable.
Fetuses have potential to become humans and it's likely that they will become one this is water
 
I'm feeling so fucking good right now fuck. Obliterating a r*tarded libtard boosts my Vitality
 
On Value;

Yeah if I said value is only based on levels of sentience & conscious experience. But I don't.
Being simply Human gives you inherent value. Yet it is in conjunct with sentience & conscious experience of course. Not equal, just in conjuct

Am I going to give a Fetus - a living member of the Human species Moral value despite not being consciousness or having a low level of sentience? Yes, as I give a person in comotose them same ( MVS or PVS ); or a person of equal sentience to a fetus ( In Cases of Anencephaly ) ; or one even in death the same. ( Desecration of graves/tombs/burials/corpse is Unjust & Immoral. )
Well, not the SAME - SAME in Death; But you understand I'd still morally value this over an animal. Living / Dead is a big distinction

ONE Human life is worth more than a 1000 Cows, 1000 Sheep, 1000 Mules, 1000 Donkeys, 1000 Horses, & So-on
Not that Animal rights don't exist, For ex. Do I think its permissible to torture these being of other species beings? No.
Now we're going to get into Veganism ->

On Veganism;

We have take their lives humanely for the continuation & prosperity of our species.
On a Vegan diet your missing Vitamin B12, Vitamin D3, Heme Iron, DHA/EPA, Taurine, Creatine, Carnosine, Anserine, and Vitamin K2 (MK-4). Risk defincity in Iron, Zinc, Iodine, Selenium, Calcium, Riboflavin (B2), Retinol (Vitamin A), and Protein Quality. All of these Essential Micro-nutrients/Macronutrients missing -> Malnourishment. What do you think itd gonna happen to your health?

Lets apply this to a greater societal framework. What do you think is going to happen if a given community adopted & practiced this diet for generations?

Malnourished Parents given Birth ( Miraculously ) to Malnoruished Children; Malnourish them. And they live ( Miraculously ) to Give birth ( Miraculously ) Malnourish their Children.

I missed a point here where alone ~ 3rd Generation the child is born with ( And miraculously survives )
  • Neural Defects (e.g., spina bifida, anencephaly)
  • Severe Brain Underdevelopment (leading to cognitive disabilities, intellectual impairment)
  • Premature Birth (leading to underdeveloped organs, particularly the lungs and brain)
  • Intrauterine Growth Restriction (IUGR) (low birth weight, organ underdevelopment)
  • Severe Stunting (permanent low height for age, indicating chronic malnutrition)
  • Severe Cognitive Impairment (intellectual disabilities, low IQ, learning disabilities)
  • Severe Immune Dysfunction (high susceptibility to infections, failure to thrive)
  • Permanent Motor Skill Impairments (e.g., cerebral palsy, lack of motor coordination)
  • Chronic Health Conditions (e.g., type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases)
  • Epigenetic Damage (leading to transgenerational health issues)

I'm joking. Their Dead. So, are you 100% Okay with Ending the Human species over the wellbeing of some r*tarded animal that would murder YOU for a second if it was for the wellbeing of THEIR young.

They do the same. We do the same. Diffrence? We know their value. We are still more valuable.
Still R*tarded & Obliterated by me


Are you genuinely R*tarded? When are you going to start engaging with my argument
Ad-homimen = Arugment


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99% PERCENT OF PEOPLE W/ DOWN SYNDROME LOVE THEIR LIVES
YOUR A FUCKING R*TARD HOLYYY SHIT LMAOOOOOO


Given the case that this baby w/ Down Syndrome has no health complications ( Excluding the Syndrome ) which is mostly the case. Cost & nurturing is relatively exactly the same as a normal baby. They eat the same food, drink the same water, breath the same air, shit the same poop, learn the same curriculum ( Diff. levels ), & so on. There are some elective services (physical, occupational, speech therapy) but that cost is low. Coming from a person who went through speech therapy. You don't need to be a millionaire.
@hannah Wdyt
 
Unwanted baby = Wanted baby

Cases of a life-threatening pregnancy are answered via C-Section.
Ex. Sepsis, Sepsis is a life-threatening infection that can spread throughout the body, leading to organ failure and shock; The Sepsis is treated via anti-bodies, fluids, & medication. Baby is still delivered or C-section is given to avoid infection or speed up medical assessment & focus on the Sepsis itself rather than the baby. No need to take its life.

Again Eugenics. Whats with Pro-choicers & Eugenics?
If you would be born completely paralyzed would you want that life? What about having to be hooked up to machines 24/7?

Not all life threatening pregnancy can be fixed via c-section such as Placental Abruption or eclampsia if it is caught to late


Unwanted isn't always wanted im talking about all the kids in foster care or abusive homes and kids who need more medical care are more likely to end up in those situations

I would also like to add i am not pro choice in the typical sense as I believe if there are no issues abortion shouldn't be an option
 
If you would be born completely paralyzed would you want that life? What about having to be hooked up to machines 24/7?
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Yes? Your characterizing a life like that like its the worst thing imaginable.
Paul Alexander - Diagnosed w/ Polio & subjected to live in an Iron Lung for the rest of his life at 6
This guy loved his life & was known for it. Dude even wrote a book, My Life in an Iron Lung
Not all life threatening pregnancy can be fixed via c-section such as Placental Abruption
Wait what? In Placental Abruption, Once the placenta detaches, the baby’s oxygen supply is compromised & The ONLY way to stop the bleeding and save the baby is to deliver. So emergency C-section is indicated. So yes, theres no need to kill the baby to access the bleeding.
or eclampsia if it is caught to late
Yeah, delivery of the placenta resolves Preeclampsia. If a mother cannot wait for delivery and it must be solved immediately - What do you think happens? A C-section. Again, theres no need to kill this baby. What dont you understand?
Unwanted isn't always wanted im talking about all the kids in foster care or abusive homes and kids who need more medical care are more likely to end up in those situations
Is your first thought when you see a child in foster care, abusive home, or a kid in need, "They should be put out of their misery"
It isn't. Their as human as you & when their in need you help them god-willing.
I would also like to add i am not pro choice in the typical sense as I believe if there are no issues abortion shouldn't be an option
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Yes? Your characterizing a life like that like its the worst thing imaginable.
Paul Alexander - Diagnosed w/ Polio & subjected to live in an Iron Lung for the rest of his life at 6
This guy loved his life & was known for it. Dude even wrote a book, My Life in an Iron Lung

Wait what? In Placental Abruption, Once the placenta detaches, the baby’s oxygen supply is compromised & The ONLY way to stop the bleeding and save the baby is to deliver. So emergency C-section is indicated. So yes, theres no need to kill the baby to access the bleeding.

Huh????? Yeah, delivery of the placenta resolves Preeclampsia. If a mother cannot wait for delivery and it must be solved immediately - What do you think happens? A C-section. Again, theres no need to kill this baby. What dont you understand?

Is your first thought when you see a child in foster care, abusive home, or a kid in need, "They should be put out of their misery"
It isn't. Their as human as you & when their in need you help them god-willing.

Good
1. I dont want ppl in foster care to die and I dont even think most of them should have been aborted

2. If its caught to late the child would have already died or will most likely die after delivery (yes even a dead child is an abortion)

3. Maybe its just preference but if I was born paralyzed id probably hate being alive
 
1. I dont want ppl in foster care to die and I dont even think most of them should have been aborted
So only kill those who live hard lives. Got it. So kill the ones that are abused, Got it.
2. If its caught to late the child would have already died or will most likely die after delivery (yes even a dead child is an abortion)
No, thats a miscarriage. Removal of the corpse of a child is simply that.
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3. Maybe its just preference but if I was born paralyzed id probably hate being alive
Well don't apply this view on everybody else lol.
 
Unjust, Immoral, & Retarded
Then what’s ur opinion on that Adriana smith woman who had her fuckin child harvested from her corpse, the doctors decided to save her unborn child and left her braindead
 
So only kill those who live hard lives. Got it. So kill the ones that are abused, Got it.

No, thats a miscarriage. Removal of the corpse of a child is simply that.
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Well don't apply this view on everybody else lol.
No??? I never said to abort abused kids either I think u misunderstood the beginning of what I said

2. Technically not i should've worded it better its 1 am and im tired af, they take the same meds and usually the fetus passes the same as it would in an abortion
 
Then what’s ur opinion on that Adriana smith woman who had her fuckin child harvested from her corpse, the doctors decided to save her unborn child and left her braindead
Doctors cant do anything for her shes braindead. Theres no point in killing this fetus literally at all - no reasoning to it.
Its either give his child a life or not. Life is better. Simple
 
Doctors cant do anything for her shes braindead. Theres no point in killing this fetus literally at all - no reasoning to it.
Its either give his child a life or not. Taking it would be a "just cause" no mother to attribute it to.
That’s not how it happened. She was alive and complained to the doctors about severe pain but they ignored her and she went brain dead. After that they abused her body forcing it to not decompose just so they could harvest that baby from her body
 
Okay so clarify
Idk how to clarify tbh, I think I kinda explained it already kids have a higher chance of neglect or abuse if they have extreme medical needs and normally will die either way
 
Doctors cant do anything for her shes braindead. Theres no point in killing this fetus literally at all - no reasoning to it.
Its either give his child a life or not. Life is better. Simple
It wasn't taking the child's life they kept her in life support even tho they knew she was dead just for the purpose to deliver the child naturally the child would have died when the mother did
 
Okay so clarify
there are tons of children who grew up in sick households who wish they weren’t born😂 let’s not act like that’s not the reality n***a
 
It wasn't taking the child's life they kept her in life support even tho they knew she was dead just for the purpose to deliver the child naturally the child would have died when the mother did
Any normal person pro life or not should be able to understand that this was wrong and violating to her corpse.
 
That’s not how it happened. She was alive and complained to the doctors about severe pain but they ignored her and she went brain dead. After that they abused her body forcing it to not decompose just so they could harvest that baby from her body

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Brutal.
 
It wasn't taking the child's life they kept her in life support even tho they knew she was dead just for the purpose to deliver the child naturally the child would have died when the mother did
Any normal person pro life or not should be able to understand that this was wrong and violating to her corpse.
Whats so bad about attempting to keep this child alive. I still don't understand lol
 

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