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Announcement Announcing May 2026's Member of the Month Winner

TonyDr said:
Hi everyone !

The staff team and the previous MotM winners came together and picked out this month not one but TWO Members of the Month (MotM).

@Starlet & @giga.mia !! 🥳

Congrats to the 2 winners ! :bongotap:
They will be receiving their MotM perks and the option to vote in future MotM polls.

Tags : @Nbernical @Insomnia @draftLexy @Randomized @Chifuyu @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean @Huntergirl @bby
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They lucky, must've beaten me by one vote
@mods /ban insomnia

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TonyDr said:
Hi everyone !

The staff team and the previous MotM winners came together and picked out this month not one but TWO Members of the Month (MotM).

@Starlet & @giga.mia !! 🥳

Congrats to the 2 winners ! :bongotap:
They will be receiving their MotM perks and the option to vote in future MotM polls.

Tags : @Nbernical @Insomnia @draftLexy @Randomized @Chifuyu @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean @Huntergirl @bby
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Yea she just said to give it to chainsandwhips2
 
TonyDr said:
Sure bro
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All of this in may btw



genio said:
NUMERICAL LOOKS SCORE BELL CURVE
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BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION
-3 SD: 2.9 as 0.135th percentile (1/741) Roughly Sub-3
-2 SD: 3.5 as 2.275th percentile (1/44) Roughly LLTN
-1 SD: 4.1 as 15.866th percentile (1/6) Roughly LLTN-MLTN
0 SD: 4.7 as 50th percentile (1/2) Roughly MLTN-HLTN
+1 SD: 5.3 as 84.134th percentile (1/6) Roughly LMTN-MMTN
+2 SD: 5.9 as 97.725th percentile (1/44) Roughly HMTN
+3 SD: 6.5 as 99.865th percentile (1/741) Exact MHTN
THE BELL CURVE IS KNOWN TO GET VERY SHAKY OVER 3 STANDARD DEVIATIONS
TAKE EVERYTHING BEYOND THIS POINT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT JFL
+4 SD: 7.1 as 99.997th percentile (1/31,560) Roughly Low Chadlite
+5 SD: 7.7 as 100th percentile (1/3,483,046) Roughly Mid to High Chadlite
+6 SD: 8.3 as 100th percentile (1/1,009,976,564) Roughly Low to Mid Chad
+7 SD: 8.9 as 100th percentile (1/776,348,841,126) Roughly High Chad
+8 SD: 9.5 as 100th percentile (1/1,501,199,875,790,165) Exact Mid Adamlite

MY THOUGHTS
I made this bell curve with the intention to give a realistic distribution of looks with the average being MLTN-HLTN, slightly leaning to HLTN. I feel like it's quite accurate (in my opinion as there is no real way to know) up to the +3 SD mark, then it goes off the rails and starts giving absurd numbers that are obviously just untrue JFL. To be honest, there is no real way of finding the rarity of each numerical rating, but I feel like the bell curve is a good start if anybody else wants to try quantifying facial rarity. We would need a sample of hundreds of thousands to even millions and a very accurate rating system to actually quantify the rarity of a face, but far too many people still think HTN is like top 10% or some bullshit.

@foidslayer @Dandelions @Penalizer69
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genio said:
Blackpill: Hypergamy is Biologically Beneficial

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I’m sure everybody has seen this graph many, many times. It’s true. It’s just how women are biologically. “But saar! That’s so unfair! Why is muh looksmatch going for Chad and not me?!” It’s because hypergamy is biologically beneficial for the human race.

The whole point of our existence (BIOLOGICALLY) is to reproduce and make successful offspring. Genetics are obviously the largest factor in this, so why choose 5’9 LTN who’s your looksmatch instead of 6’4 Chad who’ll fuck anything with legs? The answer is that you don’t fucking choose the LTN. You choose Chad.

But there’s more to this than “Who’s better genetically?”

As a man, think about how much effort you put into raising a fetus. Make some money, provide for your woman right? Completely optional. Obviously I’m not saying it should be how YOU should handle having a baby, but there are many men who just don’t care at all and just leave. You also get to have children with as many women as you want (if they find you attractive) within any amount of time you want. You can go impregnating two women within a few hours if you so wished.

Now if imagine being a woman (or if you’re a woman in the first place). Think about how much effort YOU have to put into raising a child. Nine months of pure misery; watching everything you eat, suffering through pregnancy pains, having to carry another human in your womb. You lose SO MUCH MORE having a child compared to a man. You can’t even have more children during the time being. There’s even a chance you do all this just for a miscarriage.

So, if you were a woman, would you rather fuck an LTN and have to suffer through all that pregnancy to give birth to a recessed ugly fuck that won’t amount to shit or choose Chad? Oh and to mention that there’s a chance that man leaves and stops providing for you too. Biology says pick fucking Chad because your child will be so much more successful and the whole point of life (biologically) is to produce thriving offspring.

Over time and on a large scale, hypergamy will ensure the future generations mogs. Survival of the fittest.

Now that’s not to say you can’t get women as an LTN. Nuances are very real and it would be very easy if you were simply just neurotypical. But oh well you can’t change that. A lot of us actually are neurodivergent so it may just be over for those ones.

Tldr; Chad is better than LTN genetically, so women choose Chad to fulfill their biological purpose (having successful offspring)

Trvthnvke
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genio said:
Context
The eye height to skull height ratio is a heavily underrated ratio that heavily determines dimorphism, yet nobody talks about it. I first discovered it on Chronic x M's YouTube channel, but he deleted all his content, which is unfortunate because he was one of the best creators making analysis content. I'm making this thread to bring attention to it, although I don't use it in my harmony analyses. It's more a factor of dimorphism than harmony in my opinion.

The Measurement
It's measured by dividing the space from the chin to the space between the eyes (typically the nasion) by the space from the chin to the cranial top.
A measurement above 0.5 is masculine. Below 0.5 is feminine. Exactly 0.5 is androgynous.
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This may be due to the fact that a higher eye height could indicate a taller jaw and a smaller forehead, which are masculine traits. It could also mean a higher TFWHR (total face width-to-height ratio) and longer midface ratio, which are also seen as masculine as men generally tend to have taller skulls than women. Vice versa for women.

This formatting fucking sucks
@giga.mia @foidslayer @Penalizer69 @iqmaxx @kys @emeraldpill @Dandelions

@Byro tell me you know more than me again stupid n****r i know way more about ts than you 😂
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genio said:
Key
h = Harmony, d = Dimorphism, a = Angularity, m = Miscellaneous features
p1 = Highest pillar, p2 = Lowest pillar
The 4 Pillars of Attractiveness:
1. Harmony (undisputed)
2. Dimorphism (interchangeable with 3, 4)
3. Angularity (interchangeable with 2, 4)
4. Miscellaneous (interchangeable with 2, 3)

Depending on the formula, this is how the pillars may be ranked by importance. You give each of them a score out of 10 and multiply them by a decimal to get a full scale score on a face.

Personally I do:
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1. Harmony
In short, facial harmony is how balanced and proportionate your face is. It uses ratios and math to measure how each feature on your face interacts with other features.

There are many ratios depending on what formula you use as it could up to as high as 40 or more purely off the front profile. Every ratio has a different level of importance.

There are two profiles measured for harmony; front profile and side profile. The frontal profile should always be more important than the side profile no matter the formula. Personally, I weigh frontal harmony as 66.7% of your total harmony and side harmony as 33.3%.

Important ratios include:
ESR, FWHR, Facial Thirds, Canthal Tilt, TFWHR Midface Ratio, Bigonial-Bizygo, etc.

Here's CA's old formula. It's outdated and will probably give you an inflated score, but it serves a little use nonetheless. I'd subtract 10% off the final score personally. Anyways, you just add up all your values depending on what value is assigned to that tier and ratio, then divide it by either 2.625 for the frontal or 1.365 for the side.

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2. Dimorphism
Facial dimorphism is basically just how masculine or feminine your face looks based off your gender. It is largely affected by your harmony and angularity with even miscellaneous features playing a role as well. Most of it is determined by your bone structure though.

This is the pillar that differs most between genders (obviously) and contributes most to your archetype.

"1" Arrow = 5 Dimorphism for gender
"2" Arrow = 7.5 Dimorphism for gender
"3" Arrow = 10 Dimorphism for gender
Middle figure = 2.5 Dimorphism for either gender
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Important dimorphism markers include:
Ratios include Bigonial-Bizygo, Brow Height, Mouth-Nose, Facial Thirds, TFWHR, etc.
Other markers include Chin Squareness, Eye Shape, Nose Tip, Gonion Flare, etc.
3. Angularity
Facial angularity is based on three main factors; leanness, bone protrusion, and facial contours. In short, it describes how sharp your face is.

It plays a large role in dimorphism because men and women are healthiest at different body fat percentages. Men are healthier between 10%-15% body fat while women are healthier between 18%-21% body fat. Body fat percentage is obviously a huge deal in angularity.

Examples of 8+ Angularity Faces:
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Important angularity markers include:
Buccal Fat, Submental Fat, Eye Angularity, Nose Contour, etc.
4. Miscellaneous Features
Miscellaneous features, the 2nd most complex pillar, includes many different markers. It consists of your health indicators and basically describes how healthy your face looks.

It’s probably the easiest pillar to change aside from angularity, although it depends.

Again, I will provide CA's misc formula even though it's very outdated and doesn't serve much of a use.

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Important miscellaneous features include:
Skin Quality, Hair Quality (Eyebrows and Eyelashes included), Upper Eyelid Exposure, Contrast, Under Eye Quality, etc.
Looks Penalty
This may be a new thing to many of you guys as it is not commonly used by traditional analysts. I believe it was an idea first originating off of an .org thread although I don’t remember which.

It is a penalty imposed for differences between pillar scores. You take the lowest pillar score, subtract it from the highest pillar score, then it's here's the more complicated part; you can either design your own equation to make it fair across each penalty (which is what I did) or you can simply divide it by a number you'd like (commonly 2 or 4). You then take this number and subtract it from the overall score.

Formula using 1/4th penalty:
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For Example: Harmony - 7, Dimo - 6, Angularity - 3, Misc - 6
Traditionally, this would be a 5.68, but using a 1/4th looks penalty, this would be a 4.68.

Personally, I find this equation the most fair.
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genio said:
90% of you n*****s won't understand this
I didn't write well and it's quite complex

I'd recommend reading this (the Harmony portion of my thread The 4 Pillars of Attractiveness (Revised) beforehand:

1. Harmony
In short, facial harmony is how balanced and proportionate your face is. It uses ratios and math to measure how each feature on your face interacts with other features.

There are many ratios depending on what formula you use as it could up to as high as 40 or more purely off the front profile. Every ratio has a different level of importance.

There are two profiles measured for harmony; front profile and side profile. The frontal profile should always be more important than the side profile no matter the formula. Personally, I weigh frontal harmony as 66.7% of your total harmony and side harmony as 33.3%.

Important ratios include:
ESR, FWHR, Facial Thirds, Canthal Tilt, TFWHR Midface Ratio, Bigonial-Bizygo, etc.

Here's CA's old formula. It's outdated and will probably give you an inflated score, but it serves a little use nonetheless. I'd subtract 10% off the final score personally. Anyways, you just add up all your values depending on what value is assigned to that tier and ratio, then divide it by either 2.625 for the frontal or 1.365 for the side.

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In harmony, we usually score ratios based off a tier system. It's simple and convenient.
For example:
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However, in recent times, raters like FaceIQ have used Super-Gaussian bell curves that score your ratios out of 10 based on a decay system.
But how do you do this?
THROUGH THIS FUCKING RETARDED ASS FORMULA THAT TOOK ME WAY TOO FUCKING LONG TO FIGURE OUT!!!
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a = Plateau Height (I like to use 10, so that you get a value out of 10 based off your measurement)
p = Center Position
w = Plateau Half-Width (the distance from the center (p) to the edge where the flat top ends and the curve begins)
d = Decay Spread (Standard Deviation of the Tails)
x = Your Measurement of Your Specific Ratio

Basically, you set this up, then you put x equal whatever your measurement is (say if you're measuring ESR, you'd put your ESR measurement here).
Then, you should get a score out of the plateau height value (I usually put 10, so I'd get a value out of 10).

Here's an example I used for ESR (Eye Separation Ratio) with an ideal of between 45.6-47.7
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Let's say your ESR is 42.77422 here, it would get 5/10

But there's still an issue even with this Super-Gaussian curve; there were negative points in the tier system, so how do we replicate this with the new system?
ANOTHER FUCK ASS FORMULA n*****s
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g = Max Points (on the specific ratio in your formula (check example for better understanding))
v = Value on Curve (earlier, in the ESR example, a 42.77422 gets 5/10, the 5 would be used here)
a = Plateau Height (previously mentioned)

Here's an example of a formula where ESR's maximum value is +20.
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If you got 5/10 on the Super-Gaussian after inputting your measurement (x) and your Plateau Height (a) as 10, you'd get 0 as your score to go towards your formula.
If you got 9/10 with the same conditions mentioned above, you'd get 16 as your score to go towards your formula. 3/10 would get -8 and 0/10 would get -20.

This shit was some of the most effort I've ever put into a thread. Just for 90% of you n*****s to not understand. Thank you for reading.
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genio said:
:rainbowpls: Comprehensive EyeMaxxing Guide :rainbowpls:
BY GENIO
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EVERYTHING FROM HARDMAXXING TO EXPERIMENTAL, NICHE METHODS

1. Introduction
2. Important Anatomy/Terms
3. Important Ratios/Angles
4. The Ideal Eye Area
5. How to Max Out the Eye Area
- 5.1 Softmaxxing
- 5.2 Hardmaxxing
- 5.3 Everything Else
6. The Conclusion

- Introduction: The Importance of the Eye Area -
The eye area is the most important area of the face. It's obvious. Everybody knows this. But why? Why is it so important?

This is due to many biological and social factors. The eyes signal health, youth, and emotion. Striking eyes ("hunter eyes" as we call it) signal strength and biological superiority. Doe eyes signal youth, femineity and strong emotion. They're called the window to the soul for a reason.

Well, what do bulging, bug-like eyes and yellow or red sclera signal then? They signal bad health, aging, and tiredness. If this is you, this is why you should max out your eye area. These two holes with spheres inside them can determine your life quality and how your entire life plays out. You will be treated worse if your eyes are ugly and vice versa if you have attractive eyes. Now, some of you will only need a little softmaxxing and some of you will need to hardmax, but first, let's get into some important anatomical features of the eyes along with some important terms.

- Important Anatomy/Terms -

1.0 Orbital Rim (of the Bony Orbit): The bony edge surrounding the eye socket. It helps protect the eyeball and is the main structural frame of the eye area.
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1.1 Supraorbital Rim - AKA the brow bone or the brow ridge. It strongly influences how masculine and striking the eye area looks. It's the upper part of the orbital rim.
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1.2 Infraorbital Rim - The lower part of the orbital rim. It supports the lower eyelid and under-eye region. Lack of this support causes under-eye hollowness AKA tear troughs or eye bags.
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2.0 Eyelid Structure: Eyelids are folds of skin and muscle around the eye that affect scleral show and overall eye shape. They also protect the eyes by covering them.
2.1 Upper Eyelid - The eyelid on top that’s used when you blink. It affects hooding and how compact or open the eyes look.
2.2 Lower Eyelid - The eyelid on the bottom that affects scleral show. It heavily influences the perception of tiredness or youthfulness within the eye area.
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3.0 Hair Around the Eye Area: This frames the upper face and heavily changes how the eyes are perceived. Eyebrows and eyelashes both affect contrast, expression and eye area emphasis.
3.1 Eyelashes - The short hairs around the eyelid margin. They protect the eye from debris, but their main aesthetic importance is how they help the eyes look fuller and more defined.
3.2 Eyebrows - The arches of hair above the eyes. They frame the eyes and affect how facial expression is perceived as they can be perceived as softer, harsher, or more youthful depending on the arch and thickness.
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4.0 Eyeball Structure: The organ of vision inside your orbit. The visible parts of the eyeball play a crucial role in eye area aesthetics.
4.1 Sclera - The whites of your eye. Bright, white sclera is ideal and signals good health. Yellow or red sclera signals fatigue and bad health.
4.2 Iris - The colored circle of your eye around the pupil. It's one of the most noticeable parts of the eye region. Lighter eye colors are more attractive as they create more contrast.
4.3 Pupil - The black circle that makes the center of your iris. It slightly affects perceptive of youthfulness.
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4.4 Limbal Ring - The very slim, dark ring around your iris. Few people have it, but it signals great health and creates a lot of contrast. It's a very polarizing, underrated feature of the eye area. You will typically only see this in some people with lighter eyes, but even then, it's very rare.
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5.0 Miscellaneous Structures: Self-explanatory.
5.1 Medial Canthus - The inner corner of the eye where the upper and lower eyelids meet near the nasion. It's a striking feature and can also affect how close/far your eyes look.
5.2 Lateral Canthus - The outer corner of the eye where the upper and lower eyelids meet near the cheekbones.
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5.3 Orbital Fat - The fat around your eyes. It affects how much upper eyelid exposure you have and how healthy your under-eyes look.
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6.0 Other Bone Support Structures: Self-explanatory.
6.1 Zygoma (Cheekbones) - The zygoma heavily supports the eyeball from below with the it being part of the orbital rim. It also contributes greatly to ratios.
6.2 Maxilla (Upper Jaw) - The maxilla contributes structure to the lower eyelid. If your infraorbitals are recessed, it is likely also connected to some form of maxillary recession.
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6.3 Ethmoid - The bone between your two orbits. It helps form the inner eye socket and the nose bridge. It also heavily affects eye spacing.
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7.0 Structures Around the Root of the Nose: Critical bony and soft-tissue landmarks.
7.1 Nasion - The deepest part of the nasal bridge where the nasal bone and the frontal bone meet. It's the bony starting point of the nose.
7.2 Radix - The root of your nose. It heavily affects how deep-set your eyes look. It may commonly be used interchangeably with the nasion.
7.3 Glabella - The most prominent point of the forehead. It sits right the midline of your brows. It affects supraorbital projection.
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1. Interpupillary Distance (IPD) - The distance between your pupils. May be the first thing people notice when they see you and is incredibly important.
Mean IPD within adults is 62.7 ± 4.3 mm.
2. Intercanthal Distance (ICD) - The distance between your two medial canthi. Affects eye spacing.
3. Outer canthal Distance (OCD) - The distance between your two lateral canthi. Affects eye spacing.
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Both ICD and OCD are heavily affected by ethnicity. Search up your ethnicity's average if you want an accurate number.
4. Upper Eyelid Exposure (UUE) - The exposure of the upper eyelid due to low orbital fat stores.
5. Hooding - Whenever orbital fat stores are plentiful, they hood the upper eyelid, causing hooding.
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6. Scleral Show - The exposure of your sclera due to bad under-eye support.
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7. Tear Troughs/Eyebags - The dark circles or hollowing under your eyes.
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8. Palpebral Fissure Length (PFL) - The distance between your medial canthus and lateral canthus on the same eye.
This is heavily affected by ethnicity. Search up your ethnicity's average if you want an accurate number.
9. Palpebral Fissure Height (PFH) - The distance between your upper eyelid and lower eyelid on the same eye.
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Note: If you couldn't tell, eye spacing is VERY important. If your eye spacing is off, it could signify or resemble congenital health anomalies like hypertelorism even if you don’t have such a thing. Even being remotely associated with such anomalies is horrible for your eye aesthetics.

- Important Ratios/Angles -
1. Eye Separation Ratio (ESR) - IPD divided by facial width.
2. One Eye Apart Test - ICD divided by the distance between the medial canthus and the end of the eyelid.
3. Brow Length to Face Width Ratio - Combined brow width divided by facial width.
4. Eyebrow Low Setedness - The distance from the upper eyelid to the lowest point of the eyebrow divided by PFH.
5. Eye Aspect Ratio (EAR) - PFL divided by PFH.
6. OCD to Face Width Ratio - OCD divided by facial width.
7. PFL to Face Width Ratio - PFL divided by facial width.
8. Lateral Canthal Tilt - The angle of the lateral canthus relative to the medial canthus.
9. Eyebrow Tilt - The angle of the eyebrow's outer end relative to it's inner end.
10. Eye-Mouth-Eye Angle (EME) - The angle created by a vertex at the center of the mouth and arms going through the pupils.
11. Orbital Vector - How far the infraorbital is behind the most protrusive part of the eyeball from the side profile (using a line).

Use undistorted images in your own analysis for best results, but here are some examples of measurements


1. Eye Separation Ratio (ESR) 44.5% - 47.7%
2. One Eye Apart Test 0.93 eyes apart - 1.04 eyes apart
3. Brow Length to Face Width Ratio 69% - 76%
4. Eyebrow Low Setedness <0.66 eyes
5. Eye Aspect Ratio 2.8 - 3.6
6. OCD to Face Width Ratio 61% - 67%
7. PFL to Face Width Ratio 19% - 21%
8. Lateral Canthal Tilt 5.2 degrees - 8.5 degrees
9. Eyebrow Tilt 5 degrees - 13 degrees
10. Eye-Mouth-Eye Angle 47 degrees - 50 degrees
11. Orbital Vector - Ahead of the line
1. Eye Separation Ratio (ESR) 44.5% - 47.7%
2. One Eye Apart Test 0.99 eyes apart - 1.10 eyes apart
3. Brow Length to Face Width Ratio 69% - 76%
4. Eyebrow Low Setedness <0.66 eyes
5. Eye Aspect Ratio 2.8 - 3.6
6. OCD to Face Width Ratio 61% - 67%
7. PFL to Face Width Ratio 18.5% - 20.5%
8. Lateral Canthal Tilt 6.2 degrees - 9.5 degrees
9. Eyebrow Tilt 5 degrees - 13 degrees
10. Eye-Mouth-Eye Angle 48 degrees - 51 degrees
11. Orbital Vector - Ahead of the line
1. Eye Separation Ratio (ESR) 44.5% - 47.7%
2. One Eye Apart Test 1.04 eyes apart - 1.15 eyes apart
3. Brow Length to Face Width Ratio 69% - 76%
4. Eyebrow Low Setedness <0.85 eyes
5. Eye Aspect Ratio 2.7 - 3.5
6. OCD to Face Width Ratio 61% - 67%
7. PFL to Face Width Ratio 18% - 20%
8. Lateral Canthal Tilt 6.7 degrees - 10 degrees
9. Eyebrow Tilt 5 degrees - 13 degrees
10. Eye-Mouth-Eye Angle 47 degrees - 50 degrees
11. Orbital Vector - Ahead of the line

Note: If you're geographically close to one of these races, but not quite exactly there; Use those ideals. Otherwise, use the Caucasian ideals. For example: If you're Southeast Asian, use East Asian ideals. If you're Latino, use Caucasian ideals.

- The Ideal Eye Area -
So, after learning all this, what makes the ideal eye area?

- Ideal ratios/angles
- Strong brow ridge
- Good under-eye support with no hollowness
- Strong orbital structure with zygoma/maxillary support
- Deep set within the skull
- No scleral show
- Minimal upper eyelid exposure
- Sharp, angular eye shape
- Thick, dark eyebrows that are groomed (not overgroomed)
- Bright, white sclera
- Long, dark eyelashes
- Light eye color
- Visible limbal ring
- Sharp, defined lateral and downward angled medial canthus
- No puffiness or bad health indicators
- Symmetry

I hit the file limit for images, so here are some named examples of top tier eye regions:
Sean O'Pry, Elias DePoot, David Gandy, Atesh Salih, Jorge Del Rio, Alfredo del la Cruz, Genio 😂

Now, let's go over how you can get as close as possible to this ideal eye area.

- How to Max Out the Eye Area -

A lot of the information here will also be useful for general looksmaxxing.

1.1 The Basics
- 7-10 Hours of Sleep: You should be doing this anyways if you're looksmaxxing. It'll help with scleral brightness and the under-eye area.
- Diet: Focus on whole foods, fruits, and staying hydrated. Take a multivitamin, drink 16 cups of water a day. Good health = Good looks.
- Icing: You could ice your eyes every morning with a cold spoon or so to reduce inflammation.

1.2 Skincare
- Cleanser: Removes dirt, excess oil, sweat or any other pollutants from your skin. Use this before moisturizing.
- Moisturizer: It's in the name. It moisturizes your face and helps repair your skin barrier. Popular options include hyaluronic acid.
- SPF 50 Tinted Sunscreen: Helps mask dark under-eyes, eye bags, and tear troughs. You should be applying to your whole face anyways, but put some extra under your eyes. This should be applied last in your skincare routine. Preferably every 3-4 hours throughout the day.
- Tretinoin 0.025% to 0.1% /Tazarotene 0.025% to 0.1%: These are topical retinoids (derivatives of Vitamin A) that can help reduce hyperpigmentation, photo-aging, and treat acne. They do this through boosting collagen through cell turnover. This is especially useful for the under-eyes as it can help with dark spots. Tretinoin is a much milder retinoid as compared to Tazarotene which is much more potent. Although Tretinoin is weaker, they both carry risk of irritation. This means Tazarotene causes faster results, but has a higher risk of aforementioned irritation. You will 100% need to use sunscreen with these. They are commonly used in a sandwich method where you put on moisturizer, retinoid, then moisturizer again. Not mandatory, but definitely worth adding to your skincare routine if you want nice under-eyes.
- Hydroquinone 2% to 4%: A topical skin-lightening agent commonly paired with a topical retinoid (like mentioned above) to help with under-eye darkness. It treats hyperpigmentation through blocking the enzyme needed to produce melanin. It also has it's risk of irritation, so be cautious.

1.3 Eyebrows and Eyelashes
- Topical Minoxidil 5% to 10%: It is a vasodilator, which means it widens blood vessels to improve blood flow to the follicles, causing more hair growth. It's commonly used on the eyebrows to increase eyebrow density for a more thick, masculine look. Use Minoxidil with a derma-stamp anywhere from 0.5mm to 2mm to increase it's effectiveness. Minoxidil without a derma-stamp will be much less effective. Derma-stamp once or twice a week and apply Minoxidil on your eyebrows every morning and night. Only apply this to your eyebrows (or scalp) and do not get it any where near your eyes as it's vasodilating effects can easily cause eye issues. Wash it out immediately if it gets in your eye.
- Bimatoprost (Latisse) 0.03%: It works by extending the anagen (growth) phase of eyelash hair follicles, causing thicker and longer lashes. It's safe for the eyes unlike topical Minoxidil but it does have a risk of darkening your eye color if you don't have T50 eyes. It's biggest risk is the way it nukes orbital fat around the regions it's applied which is why you should apply something like Vaseline around the area above your eye near the upper eyelid and all around as a protective barrier. Only use 1 drop of Bimatoprost and get a swab to apply to the upper eyeline. It's recommended to not use it on the lower eyeline as it can cause the under-eye region to look tired through removing orbital fat there and darkening the skin. Using it more than once a day will not speed up results. Be careful.
- Topical Cyclosporine 0.05%: "Woah what's that?" is a question some of you might be thinking right now. It's a superior to both Minoxidil and Bimatoprost. In short, it induces the anagen (growth) phase and inhibits catagen (regression) phase of hair follicles. Press HERE for specifics. Thanks @depersonalized. He basically explains that it's superior to Minoxidil and Bimatoprost simply due to targeting hair growth in more pathways than them. It's biggest risk topically is ocular burning in 17% of users. Otherwise, it seems quite safe and should be applied like Bimatoprost with something similar to a swab. It can be applied to both the upper eyeline and the lower eyeline.
- Beard Dye (for Lashes and Brows duh): Dying your lashes and brows will greatly improve contrast and coloring. A rule of thumb is to pick a shade about one shade darker than your hair color. First, apply a thin layer of Vaseline or something similar around your eyes. Second, mix equal amounts of the color base and the color developer in the tray provided. Third, apply to your brows and lashes with a disposable spoolie (be careful to not get dye in your eyes). Then, leave it on for roughly 5-7 minutes. Lastly, wipe off all the dye with a damp towel/paper towel and clean the area with water and soap to get rid of lingering dye.
- Lash Lift: You can either get this done professionally or with a DIY kit at home. It chemically breaks and reforms the bonds in your eyelashes to create a semi-permanent curling effect for 6-8 weeks. If you're looking to do it at home, watch this video.
- Eyebrow Shaping: Get a pair of tweezers and plucky untidy hairs. This helps make your brows look cleaner and more refined. You could also get this done professionally, but it's very straight forward and easily done at home.
- Addressing "Hair Growth Oils": They're cope with the exception of rosemary oil, which is still not very effective compared to the other options here. Rosemary oil was found to be as effective as 2% Minoxidil. Castor oil has no clinical evidence for hair growth. They should merely be used to keep your hair healthy and luscious. Do not expect any significant hair growth from these oils advertised to grow your hair. They're still useful for hair health though.

1.4 Frauds
- Brimonidine Tartrate 0.025% (Lumify): My personal favorite fraud. Put 1-2 drops of it per eye and you're done. Your sclera will be bright white within a minute and it'll last for the rest of the day. It greatly enhances contrast and coloring within the eye area and can also be used to lighten the under-eyes. If you rub some on the under-eye, it will also take affect and make them lighter in color.
- Eye Contacts: Can greatly affect coloring and contrast in the eye area. It's probably the largest contributor to contrast here besides the eyebrows. Pick a color that suits your phenotype. I'd recommend going into Hypic > Retouch > Brush > Makeup and then experimenting by coloring in your eyes until you find a nice fit.
- BB Cream: A moisturizer, primer, sunscreen, and light foundation all at once (in most formulas). Put this in your under-eye area to mask hollowing and darkness.
- CC Cream: BB cream but with better color correction (CC). It's looks more matte and commonly includes ingredients like niacinamide used for skin lightening.
-Mascara: Thickens, darkens and lengthens eyelashes. Use clear mascara to be less obvious as a man. It's over if you get caught.
- Eyelash Curler: Use mascara to keep it in place for best results. As the name suggests, it curls your eyelashes upwards and can make you look more youthful. Could be used to improve how the lateral canthal tilt is perceived.
- Eyeliner: Used to contour around the eyes and can heavily affect the eye shape if applied correctly. Can also be used with a dark shade to draw around the medial canthus, making it look more laterally and downwardly projected. Be careful not to get caught. Could improve one eye apart test.
- Eyebrow Pen: Used to shape and darken the eyebrows. Go for a natural, yet cleaned look. Proper application of an eyebrow men can make your eye area look much sharper and more masculine. Could improve brow to face width ratio.
- Perma-Squinching: Unorthodox, but constantly squinching the eyes can make your eye shape look much sharper and more angular (improves EAR). Will take time to get used to. Do not squint though, just squinch. Squinting will make you look like an autist.
- Hair: Style your hair in a way that masks flaws like bad ESR or bad brow to face width. If your eyes look close-set, cover your cheekbones with your hair and if it looks wide-set, make sure to have your hair completely away to show as much cheekbone as possible. If your eyes are that bad, just cover the whole thing.
- Glasses: If your infraorbital recession, IPD, or any other eye spacing factors (a lot of other issues really) are super bad, put on some glasses and hope nobody notices.
- Facial Exercises: I have no idea if these work, but they couldn't harm you. You can research it because I think it's cope personally. Just putting it here to raise awareness.
- Addressing Volufiline: All of it's studies have been from it's publishers, so I can't recommend it for adipogenesis (fat cell development) benefits.
- Topical Rosiglitazone: I don't think it's on the market yet, but it seems to have great potential in actually giving you adipogenesis (fat cell development). Theoretically, it could fix your under-eye hollowness and may even help hooding to reduce upper eyelid exposure.
- Upneeq Eyedrops: Stimulates Müller’s muscle in the upper eyelid to temporarily lift droopy eyelids. It lasts for about 8 hours. It's similar to an upper blepharoplasty. It's side effect profile is redness, irritation, and headaches.
Disclaimer: These will be brief summaries with what the surgeries do and what flaws they fix. If you're considering surgery, do your own research.

2.1 Eyelid Surgeries
> Blepharoplasty (Upper/Lower): Removes/repositions excess skin, muscle, and fat on the eyelids.
- Upper Blepharoplasty: Reduces hooding to make the eyes look more open. It increases upper eyelid exposure, eyebrow setedness, and EAR, so I don't know why you would need this surgery as a man. For most of you, this will be a looks minimizer, but if you have a droopy upper lid that may impair your vision, I could see how this surgery would be useful.
Invasiveness score = 3/10
- Lower Blepharoplasty: Reduces eye bags, puffiness, and under-eye heaviness through repositioning fat and tightening skin/muscle. This should be considered if you have excess skin, fat, or muscle under your eyes that make it look puffy. This is not a replacement for real structural under-eye support such as implants or filler. From my understanding, there are no ratios affected here, but the health indicators in the under-eye area seem to get much better through this surgery.
Invasiveness score = 4/10
Typical price ranges (upper/lower, combined often cheaper than separate):

USA: $6,000–$10,000+ for upper + lower

UK: £4,500–£7,300 (~$6,200–$10,200) for upper + lower

Turkey: $1,200–$2,600 for blepharoplasty; $2,400–$5,200 for combined upper + lower

South Korea: $3,000–$5,000 (upper), $3,000–$4,000 (lower)

Thailand: $750–$4,200 depending on complexity

Mexico: $700–$2,300 average; up to $4,000 for complex cases

Czech Republic: ~$900–$1,000 (≈€980)

India: ~$2,580+ (≈€2,580)
> Ptosis Repair: Surgical tightening or repositioning of the levator muscle to fix a drooping upper eyelid. Quite similar in results to an upper blepharoplasty cosmetically, but the main difference is that ptosis repair focuses on real, functional issues within the levator muscle that may actually impair vision. Again, I don't see why many of you would need this unless you have a functionality issue.
Invasiveness score = 5/10
Typical price ranges:
USA: $4,500–$9,000

South Korea: $2,000–$4,500

Turkey: $1,500–$3,000; ptosis + blepharoplasty ~$5,500
> Double Eyelid Surgery:
Often called an Asian blepharoplasty. It creates a crease in the upper eyelid through converting a single eyelid into a double eyelid. It is also used to adjust double eyelid shape at times. Improves eyebrow lowsetedness, EAR, perception of PFL, and one eye apart test. Highly recommended if you have monolids because I believe it has great ROI.
Invasiveness score = 3/10
Typical price ranges:

USA (especially NYC): $8,500–$10,000 for double eyelid surgery

South Korea: $3,500–$5,000 (upper eyelid surgery)
2.2 Canthi Surgeries
> Canthoplasty (Medial/Lateral): Surgical reshaping and repositioning of the eye corners.
- Medial Canthoplasty: Reshapes the medial canthus. Contrary to what it may seem, it's more commonly used to make the canthus look shorter instead of longer. It affects the one eye apart test (due to ICD changes), lateral canthal tilt, and PFL depending on what you want to accomplish with the surgery.
Invasiveness score = 5-6/10
- Lateral Canthoplasty: Reshapes and extends the lateral canthus vertically and horizontally. Commonly used to increase PFL or correct lackluster canthal tilts. It can increase PFL to face width, canthal tilt, OCD to facial width ratio, OCD, and lower one eye apart test. It can also lower these depending on how you get it done. Quite invasive due to involving the main tendon that anchors the eyelid.
Invasiveness score = 7/10
Important note: Canthoplasty alone can often come out looking uncanny if the underlying issue is actually something else, such as protruding eyes.
Typical price ranges:

USA (New York): ~€7,000 (~$7,600+)

UK (London): ~€5,500 (~$6,000+)

Turkey: ~€1,900 (~$2,100+)
> Canthopexy: Tightens the lateral canthus without as much reshaping as a lateral canthoplasty. You could say it's a less invasive version of it, but I also don't think it has as drastic of results. It supports the lower lid, so it's commonly used to lessen scleral show. Increases lateral canthal tilt and slightly increases PFL in some cases, meaning that it also affects every OCD and PFL related ratio (basically everything lateral canthoplasty does, but lite version).
Invasiveness score = 5-6/10
Typical price ranges:

USA (New York): ~€7,000 (~$7,600+)

UK (London): ~€5,500 (~$6,000+)

Turkey: ~€1,900 (~$2,100+
> Epicanthoplasty: Also falls under the umbrella of a medial canthoplasty. Modifies the skin of the epicanthic fold and makes the eye look more wide. This is what you should get if you want a nice medial canthus and increased PFL. Decreases ICD and one eye apart test while increasing PFL. It could also indirectly affect canthal tilt.
Invasiveness score = 5/10
Typical price ranges:
Often combined with double eyelid surgery and canthoplasty as part of “Asian blepharoplasty” or “almond eye” packages.

USA (almond eye package): $4,500–$6,000

Turkey: $1,500–$2,500 for almond eye surgery (often includes epicanthoplasty + canthoplasty + blepharoplasty)
2.3 Zygomatic Surgeries
> Zygomatic Implants: Implants placed on the cheekbone that add cheekbone width. Decreases ESR, OCD to face width, brow to face width, PFL to face width and may improve the orbital vector depending on how it's placed.
Invasiveness score = 6/10
Typical price ranges (cheek/malar implants):

USA: from $7,500

UK: from $4,000

Turkey: $1,300–$3,100
> Zygomatic Reduction: Shaves off lateral cheekbone width. Only recommended in cases of abnormal bizygomatic width with a normal IPD to alleviate a bad ESR. Do not get this otherwise. Increases ESR, OCD to face width, brow to face width, and PFL to face width.
Invasiveness score = 8/10
Typical price ranges:

Specific cheekbone reduction prices vary widely; typically in the same ballpark as major facial contouring in East Asia ($5,000–$15,000+ in South Korea for full facial contouring including zygoma reduction).
> Midface Lift: Lifts the soft tissue of the cheeks and the midface. It improves under-eye support, reduces under-eye hollowness, and makes the area look more youthful. It would mainly improve the orbital vector and scleral show.
Invasiveness score = 6/10
Typical price ranges:

Often bundled with facelift or midface procedures; specific midface-only lift prices are less standardized.
2.4 Orbital Surgeries
> Orbital Decompression: Removes bone and/or fat from the eye area to make the eyes look less protrusive. It makes bulging eyes look less bug-like and more deep-set. Improves EAR, orbital vector, and can indirectly affect eye spacing if they were VERY protruding. Very high return, but also high risk.
Invasiveness score = 7/10
Typical price ranges:

Often done in reconstructive/medical settings; cosmetic-specific pricing is not well standardized.
> Orbital Rim Augmentation: Implants placed directly on the orbital rim. It adds volume to the orbital rim and makes the eyes look deeper-set and more structured. It also helps with the bug-eye issue, recessed infraorbital rims, and adds supraorbital projection. Improves EAR, orbital vector, brow length to face width indirectly, brow ridge, and under-eye support.
Invasiveness score = 6-7/10
Typical price ranges:

Specific orbital rim augmentation pricing is not widely published; often bundled with other orbital or midface procedures. Cheek/orbital implant packages in Turkey are around $1,300–$3,100 for cheek implants; orbital-specific work is often more expensive.
> Orbital Box Osteotomy: Incredibly invasive surgery that literally moves the entirety of eye sockets closer, further, higher, or lower. It's very risky and is usually not used as a cosmetic procedure. If you have a death-tier IPD that destroys the rest of your facial aesthetics, this is the surgery that would help you most, but it also comes with serious risks. Surgerymax has developed a modified orbital box osteotomy, so I'd look into that. Improves ESR and affects one eye apart test. Again, it's VERY invasive. Be VERY informed if you're looking to do this.
Invasiveness score = 10/10
Typical price ranges:

It was stated to be around 30k from Surgerymax in the thread I linked.
2.5 Hair-Related Surgeries
> Brow Lift (Direct/Temporal): Raises the eyebrows. I don't know why you would get this as a man aside from mid face issues, but I'll include it.
- Direct Brow Lift: Lifts a severely low or drooping brow with an incision just above the brow. It affects eyebrow low setedness and eyebrow tilt.
Invasiveness score = 4/10
- Temporal Brow Lift: Focuses on the outer brow and the temples. It affects eyebrow low setedness and eyebrow tilt.
Invasiveness score = 5/10
Typical price ranges:

USA: $3,000–$7,000 (national average ~$4,430)

Mexico: $1,500–$4,500

Canada: $500–$6,600 (wide range)

UK: $500–$7,000 (wide range)

Australia: $500–$8,000

Japan: $400–$5,000

UAE: $500–$7,000
> Eyebrow Transplant: Moves hair follicles (usually from your scalp) into the eyebrow area to make them fuller. These follicles do grow like scalp hair and not naturally like eyebrows though, so they require different maintenance and trimming. Affects brow length to face width ratio, eyebrow low setedness, and eyebrow tilt.
Invasiveness score = 4/10
Typical price ranges:

Not well standardized in the sources; typically in the hair-transplant range ($3,000–$8,000+ depending on graft count and country).
> Eyelash Transplant: Moves hair follicles (usually from your scalp) into the eyelash margin to replace sparse or missing lashes. It increases lash density, but carries the same caveat as the eyebrow transplant where they will grow like scalp hair and require a different maintenance routine.
Invasiveness score = 4/10
Typical price ranges:

Rare and niche; specific pricing is not widely available.
2.6 Miscellaneous Surgeries
> Fat Grafting: Takes fat from one part of the body and puts it elsewhere. Commonly used on the upper eyelid to create hooding and get rid of upper eyelid exposure and on the under-eye region to add volume where the region looks sunken. Improves orbital vector, EAR, scleral show (indirectly due to more under-eye support), and upper eyelid exposure. This is a very versatile surgery and the one I would recommend most for under-eye issues.
Invasiveness score = 5/10
Typical price ranges:

Often bundled with facial fat grafting or other procedures; eye-specific fat grafting is not well standardized.
> STROMA: A laser-based procedure that uses low-energy lasers to remove melanin from the iris. It's usually used to change dark eye colors (such as dark brown and hazel) to the lighter, underlying eye colors (such as blue, green, or gray). This is the only eye-color changing surgery I will include here because the other two are even more invasive and simply not worth it due to complications that this one avoids partially or entirely. This surgery isn't crazy invasive per say, but it does have a high risk profile due to you literally messing with your eyeball itself. It's also permanent and irreversible.
Invasiveness score = 7/10
Typical price ranges:

USA: $3,000–$9,000

Europe: €3,675–€9,225

Typical “headline” estimate: around $5,000

Note: I used Perplexity AI for the prices because I'm a lazy bum. (And also because I wanted multiple countries for pricing)
3.1 Procedures
> Botox: An injection of botulinum toxin to relax muscles and affect expression. Typically about $120 to $600 around the eye area and lasts about 3 to 4 months.
- Eyebrow Lowering Botox: The injection is in the upper and central forehead in the frontalis muscle. It lowers your eyebrows as mentioned in the name. It improves your eyebrow lowsetedness and could help increase your dimorphism too if your eyebrows are high to the point of femininity.
- Eyebrow Lift Botox: The injection is near the lateral brow depressor muscles that are around the end of the brow. It slightly lifts your brows, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect your eyebrow lowsetedness much (in most cases as there is nuance), but should mainly be used to increase brow tilt.
- Lower Eyelid Botox: The injection is just below the lower lash line, often called the jelly roll. It reduces smile lines and other wrinkles. Many of you under 30 probably won't need this.
- Crow Feet Botox: The injection is around the lateral canthi towards the temples. It also softens smile lines and squint marks. As I said for lower eyelid botox, many of you are young and won't need this.
- Glabella Botox: The injection is in the area between your brows in the procerus and corrugator muscles. It helps with the "angry brow" look if you have it. May lower your brow tilt and depending on the situation, may increase your brow setedness.
- Bunny Lines Botox: The injection is near the medial canthi and nose bridge. It's meant to soften lines that come from nose scrunching. I don't think many of you will need this if you're not 30+.
Invasiveness score = 2/10

> Filler: An injection of hyaluronic acid to restore volume and provide structural support. Typically $700 to $1,500 per syringe and typically lasts up to a year depending on the type of filler. Note that filler dissolves over time and may result in an unnatural appearance. Make sure to get your filler dissolved before this happens.
- Under-eye Filler: An injection in the tear trough and under-eye hollow, just below the orbital. It provides under-eye support and helps with under-eye hollowing. It increases the orbital vector.
- Brow Ridge Filler: An injection in the supraorbital ridge. It adds projection to the brow if you have a weak or flat brow ridge.
- Radix Filler: An injection to the root of your nose. It raises the radix and makes your eyes look more deep-set. This is very important for the "hunter eye" look.
- Midface Filler: An injection in the upper cheek/midface below the lower eyelid. It supports the lower eyelid and may help with scleral show. It may also make your EAR better.
- Subbrow Filler: An injection just below the brow. It helps with upper eyelid exposure.
- Blood Filler: I'd personally do all of these procedures with blood filler, but do note that you cannot dissolve it, so if your cosmetologist messes up, you might be cooked. The risk of allergic reaction is incredibly low and the way they dissolve is much more natural because they're removed by your body's lymphatic system. They're ideal for these delicate regions around the eyes because the risk of necrosis is much lower.
Invasiveness score = 3/10

> PDO Threads: Dissolvable polydioxanone threads placed under the skin to lift skin and upregulate collagen production. Prices range from $500 to $300.
- Lower Eyelid Lift: Threads are inserted below the eye angled into the midface. It slightly lifts the lower eyelid and helps with scleral show.
- Lateral Brow Lift: Threads are inserted into the area around the temples and the lateral brow. It lifts a droopy outer brow and increases brow tilt.
- Under-eye Tightening: Threads are inserted into the under-eye area and mildly tightens the skin there.
: The main usage of PDO threads, which is to correct a subpar canthal tilt. Threads are inserted near the lateral canthus and slightly increases the canthal tilt.- Lateral Canthal Tilt Lift
Invasiveness score = 4/10
3.2 DIY Procedures
> Botox (DIY): READ THE REGULAR BOTOX PORTION BEFORE THIS!!!
- How to Reconstitute Botox: Rule of thumb is to use 1ml of saline for every 100iu of botox. Here's a good video on how to reconstitute it.

- Context: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON THIS THREAD. I'M MERELY HERE TO GIVE A BRIEF GUIDLINE. First thing you have to understand is that there's 3 layers of skin; the epidermis (The epidermis is a thin layer that protects your skin through keeping germs out and moisture in), dermis (The dermis is much thicker layer that contains collagen, elastin, blood vessels, sweat glands, oil glands, hair follicles, and nerve endings), and hypodermis (The hypodermis is the most thickest layer of your skin depending as it's your fat layer). I'd also heavily recommend some 4% to 5% lidocaine cream to numb the pain of injection. It makes the process much smoother and more bearable.
- How to Inject: You will encounter some resistance at the dermis, but once you go into the hypodermis it will be smooth until you hit the muscle. You will feel some resistance when you hit the muscle, but each type of botox requires a different depth and amount there, so I'll go over this next part of this portion.
- Note: Do your own research on anatomy and figure out YOUR specific anatomy. I will only provide the specific muscles, depth, and amount you'll need for each DIY procedure. I will not give you an in-depth personalized explanation for each. By the way, the depth is not just how deep it is in your skin or fat layers, it is depth IN THE MUSCLE. I described when to know you hit the muscle beforehand. The risks are things like ptosis, so be careful.
- Eyebrow Lowering Botox: Frontalis (upper and central fibers that lift the brow), 2mm-3mm deep, 10iu-20iu total with 5iu-10iu per side
- Eyebrow Lift Botox: Lateral orbicularis oculi (depressor fibers at the outer brow tail), 1mm-2mm deep, 4iu-10iu with 2iu-5iu per side
- Lower Eyelid Botox: Lower orbicularis oculi (preseptal fibers just below the lash line AKA "jelly roll"), 1mm-2mm deep, 4iu–8iu total, with 2iu–4iu per side
- Crow Feet Botox: Lateral orbicularis oculi (posterior and lateral fibers around the lateral canthus), 1mm-2mm deep, 10iu–30iu total, with 5iu–15iu per side (FDA protocol: 12iu per side = 24iu total, 4iu at 3 sites per side)
- Glabella Botox: Corrugator supercilii (medial and lateral fibers) and procerus, 6mm–8mm for the medial corrugator, 2mm-4mm for the lateral corrugator, ~6mm for the procerus, 16iu total with 4iu per side for the medial corrugator, 2iu per side for the lateral corrugator, and 4iu for the procerus
- Bunny Lines Botox: Transverse nasalis and superficial procerus fibers on the nasal bridge, 1mm-2mm deep, 2iu-6iu total with 1iu-3iu per side
> Filler (DIY): READ THE REGULAR FILLER PORTION BEFORE THIS!!!
- Context: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DO NOT RELY SOLELY ON THIS THREAD. I'M MERELY HERE TO GIVE A BRIEF GUIDLINE. Besides filler (hyaluronic acid) itself, the first thing you'll need is hyaluronidase to dissolve your filler if you mess up. I'd also heavily recommend some 4% to 5% lidocaine cream to numb the pain of injection. It makes the process much smoother and more bearable.
- How to Inject: Before you start injecting, ASPIRATING IS MANDATORY. It's when you leave the needle in the injection site for about 10-15 seconds and see if any blood starts bleeding into the needle. If it does, do not inject there. Keep going until you find spots without any leakage. It's not perfect risk management however, so do be aware you still might pin into an artery. If you do, IMMEDIATELY inject hyaluronidase and maybe call an ambulance. Otherwise, mark lines where you want to inject and understand your anatomy.
- How to Reconstitute Hylarunidase: Watch the video.

- Note: Do your own research on anatomy and figure out YOUR specific anatomy. I will only provide the specific locations and amounts you'll need for each DIY procedure. I will not give you an in-depth personalized explanation for each.
- Under-eye Filler: Infraorbital, 0.5mL-1.0mL total and 0.25mL–0.5mL per eye
- Brow Ridge Filler: Supraorbital, 0.5mL-1.0mL total and 0.25mL–0.5mL per side
- Radix Filler: Root of your nose, 0.5mL-1.0mL total
- Midface Filler: Upper cheek, 1.0mL–2.0mL total and 0.5mL-1.0mL per side
- Subbrow Filler: Below the brow, 0.5mL–1 mL total and 0.2mL–0.5mL per side
> PDO Threads (DIY): READ THE REGULAR PDO THREADS PORTION BEFORE THIS!!!
I'm deadass lazy as shit just watch this:



: PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE ANATOMY!!! IF YOU MESS UP IT'S VERY BAD!!!> Medial Canthus Cutting
- Equipment: Scalpel, healing creams, sterilized gauze, and iodine swabs
- How to Do It: Sterilize your tools first by boiling in hot water for 30 minutes and dry them with sterilized gauze. Make sure your hands are clean and start cutting in the area. Stay less than 2mm deep and don't cut more than 3mm length-wise. Apply sterilized gauze if it starts to bleed. Clean it with sterile saline solution afterwards and make sure to sleep on your back. Recut 2-4 more times by 4 + week intervals until satisfied. BE SAFE!!!

> Fat Graphing (DIY): @giga.mia boyos cuz i aint explaining this wizardry 😂
You can use DIY fat graphing on the upper eyelid to get rid of upper eyelid exposure and on your under-eyes to add volume.
"This is when you transfer fat to another part of your body. This fat can be either autologous or exogenous, but autologous is the obvious best and safest way to go about it. During the duration of the procedure you undergo a liposuction, the fat is processed, and then reinjected into your desired location."
- brief summary by @giga.mia
Press here for part 1 of fat graphing -> Fat Harvesting
Press here for part 2 of fat graphing -> Fat Purification + Injection
PUT THESE THREADS ON MUST READS

3.3 Miscellaneous
> Sublingual/Oral Minoxidil: Both systematic versions of Minoxidil that will affect your whole body. Side effects include bloating, lower blood pressure, and rarely fluid retention. They will help with both lash and brow growth. Sublingual Minoxidil is more bioavailable because it bypasses the stomach and liver. Press here for more detail in Ecoli's Minoxidil Thread.

> Liposomal Glutathione: It inhibits tyrosinase, which is responsible for melanin production, so it can help lighten sclera.

> GHK-CU: It's a copper peptide and prevents hair follicles from going from anagen (growth) phase to catagen (shrinking) phase, which may cause mild hair growth.

> Microneedling: Eyebrow microneedling uses tiny, sterile needles to create micro-channels in the skin. It stimulates collagen and blood growth, making it quite useful for eyebrow hair growth.


- The Conclusion -
Thanks for reading bhais!
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Starlet said:
make sure to nominate him next month if you care so much
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April MotM Nominations ~ :bongotap:

Blackpillirony: x17 (YANI, ecoli, foidslayer, submissivechud, gigamia, divinebreadenjoyer, Mia, Nani, </3, unon, ceeday, gigachad67, pingpong, love, mus, pentatonic, atticus_1)
Gigamia: x14 (ep, glamour, zainker, ecoli, bpi, foidslayer, bigdihdiddy, lawi, RRM, histy, mia, nani, mus, STARLET)
Newday: x9 (ep, ghoultune, nani, </3, unon, ceeday, bpi, love, mus)
Ecoli: x9 (glamour, aryaw, bpi, lawi...
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Rebdoomark said:
Starlet

Info Comprehensive Forum Circlejerk Guide

April MotM Nominations ~ :bongotap:

Blackpillirony: x17 (YANI, ecoli, foidslayer, submissivechud, gigamia, divinebreadenjoyer, Mia, Nani, </3, unon, ceeday, gigachad67, pingpong, love, mus, pentatonic, atticus_1)
Gigamia: x14 (ep, glamour, zainker, ecoli, bpi, foidslayer, bigdihdiddy, lawi, RRM, histy, mia, nani, mus, STARLET)
Newday: x9 (ep, ghoultune, nani, </3, unon, ceeday, bpi, love, mus)
Ecoli: x9 (glamour, aryaw, bpi, lawi...
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What about it? The top 10 get into the polls that’s how it works. That thread literally confirms it
 
ecoli said:
giga.mia deserves it more
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i dont have complains on giga.mia but on starlet

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Blood fillers, and how you can make your own®

Did you know that fat grafting isn’t the only filler method that uses your own autologous material?

Ever heard of EZ gel?

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Or the vampire facial?

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Let me introduce you to blood filler...
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Info Orthodontic Rumors: Do Braces/Elastics/Extractions Really Recess you?

We’re gonna talk about malocussions, rubber bands, braces, extractions, and more. Misconceptions have risen from all angles, so I want to address the million dollar question, “Will my braces/elastics/extractions etc. recess me?”
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A malocclusion is just a general term for when your bite is misaligned. This can look different for many people, it includes cross bite, open bite, over bite, over jet, and underbite. You’ve probably heard terminology like “class 3 malocclusion”, well in orthodontics there are different classes of malocclusion, which correlate to different...
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Info Fat purification and injection 2/2

Assuming you’ve read part one, this is gonna be part two on the purification/filtering process ANDD injecting the fat. After all this is done I honestly might just combine both parts into one giant guide. This is messy formatting and I apologize

I’m going to first begin with the machine assisted lipo thing that I said I’d get into in this part..
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Continuing onwards..

For one thing, you’d begin this process by blocking off the port to the graft bags. You wont be using those until maybe the end. Next, after filling up your harvesting syringe, you must detach it from the system...
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Rebdoomark said:
i dont have complains on giga.mia but on starlet
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who cares that starlet won it doesnt matter 1 normal user won it doesnt matter if another mod wins too
 
ecoli said:
who cares that starlet won it doesnt matter 1 normal user won it doesnt matter if another mod wins too
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you joined the circle jerk so u can win motm too right? you kissed the wall n***a
 
TonyDr said:
Hi everyone !

The staff team and the previous MotM winners came together and picked out this month not one but TWO Members of the Month (MotM).

@Starlet & @giga.mia !! 🥳

Congrats to the 2 winners ! :bongotap:
They will be receiving their MotM perks and the option to vote in future MotM polls.

Tags : @Nbernical @Insomnia @draftLexy @Randomized @Chifuyu @tuberculosisinmybal @Dean @Huntergirl @bby
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this is getting annoying
 
TonyDr said:
You mean that just because a mod got one too ?
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yes exactlky

i belive that mods shouldnt be able to vote mods,

i dont think i deserve it, but if a mod actually deserve it another user should also get motm,

mods shouldnt be in the same category.


inb4 dean wins
 
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