Info Biggest signs you've stopped growing

[MA_ascender]

-Tanner stage 4 or higher.

self explanatory, by this time you've barely got like 2 cm left in the tank

-Chin hair

it's ovER, that amount of androgens means your plates are cooked

-No growth for 6 months +

just let it go brocel



water thread dnr

 

[Whitepill]

no growth in 6 months is biggest sign

 

[MA_ascender]

no growth in 6 months is biggest sign

for about 90 percent of people thats the biggest sign

 

[Axii]

-Tanner stage 4 or higher.

self explanatory, by this time you've barely got like 2 cm left in the tank

-Chin hair

it's ovER, that amount of androgens means your plates are cooked

-No growth for 6 months +

just let it go brocel



water thread dnr

It’s over I’m stuck as a 6’1cel

Brutal

 

[MA_ascender]

It’s over I’m stuck as a 6’1cel

Brutal

good height unless you live in the balkans/NL

 

[Whitepill]

My cousin grew till 21 despite chin hairs and tanner stage
6 months one is everything tbh

 

[Axii]

good height unless you live in the balkans/NL

I’m in tanner stage 4 rn and my knees been hurting like a bitch

Idk if they are squeezing height gains or closing

Hope it’s the height I need to be 6’2 at least

 

[MA_ascender]

My cousin grew to 21 despite chin hairs and tanner stage
6 months one is everything tbh

idk my height growth in general seems pulsatile


like last year i didnt grow a single millimeter and in the summer i shot up 5cm

 

[lemonpie]

is that why most ppl i knew when i was 14 who already had beards all turned out short

 

[Axii]

is that why most ppl i knew when i was 14 who already had beards all turned out short

Yeah

 

[Quncho]

-Tanner stage 4 or higher.

self explanatory, by this time you've barely got like 2 cm left in the tank

-Chin hair

it's ovER, that amount of androgens means your plates are cooked

-No growth for 6 months +

just let it go brocel



water thread dnr

I'm 6 foot 1 but my older brother mogs me at 6 foot 3.

 

[Nihilus]

Chin hair is not that accurate, also androgens don't fuse plates , if anything it's estradiol

 

[MA_ascender]

Chin hair is not that accurate, also androgens don't fuse plates , if anything it's estradiol

high androgens = high e


also androgens exert an aging effect on the growth plate boyo, anavar speeds up gp closure even tho the patients have 0pg/mol

 

[Nihilus]

high androgens = high e

No , they may correlate, but there is no direct relationship expect aromatasation ( which is itself depends on many factors )

 

[MA_ascender]

No , they may correlate, but there is no direct relationship expect aromatasation ( which is itself depends on many factors )

why would a man on 250 mg of testosterone, 500 mg, then 1 g have higher estro with each bump in dosage


n*****s just be saying contrarian shit

 

[Nihilus]

why would a man on 250 mg of testosterone, 500 mg, then 1 g have higher estro with each bump in dosage


n*****s just be saying contrarian shit

Aromatasation , also don't forget that these people are on synthetic androgens , negative and positive retrocontrol get fucked over time , it way more complicated than drawing that simple causation effect you stated

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

My cousin grew to 21 despite chin hairs and tanner stage
6 months one is everything tbh

true I was tanner stage 4 this summer still grew 3 cms with hgh and ai

 

[N30N]

Fuck, it's over for 5'10 1/2 cels

 

[Whitepill]

true I was tanner stage 4 this summer still grew 3 cms with hgh and ai

according to @MA_ascender
hgh is cope
AI is good though

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

according to @MA_ascender
hgh is cope
AI is good though

I basically induced near acromegalic levels of hgh, also hgh does speed up bone age

 

[N30N]

Wait, I'm actually fucked then. I guess I'm done growing.

 

[Whitepill]

I basically induced near acromegalic levels of hgh, also hgh does speed up bone age

speeds up bone age but doesnt develop them right?
test + ai is better for height in theory

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Wait, I'm actually fucked then. I guess I'm done growing.

have your extremeties grown?

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

speeds up bone age but doesnt develop them right?
test + ai is better for height in theory

No it definitely develops them for sure its just that it also increases bone turnover and premature aging

 

[N30N]

have your extremeties grown?

I believe not, not that I've really checked.

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

I believe not, not that I've really checked.

yea probably done then

 

[N30N]

yea probably done then

Shit

 

[Whitepill]

No it definitely develops them for sure its just that it also increases bone turnover and premature aging

its hella cope

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Shit

Maybe u have spine plates open and last resort u blast hgh but even then its probably cope

 

[N30N]

Am I coping hard, or is there ANY chance raw primal can give me some height? I've seen so much anecdotal evidence to suggest it can.

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Am I coping hard, or is there ANY chance raw primal can give me some height? I've seen so much anecdotal evidence to suggest it can.

Will only get you to genetically predetermined height

 

[Whitepill]

Am I coping hard, or is there ANY chance raw primal can give me some height? I've seen so much anecdotal evidence to suggest it can.

Glucosamine is in raw foods so maybe 2 cm from that
Raw milk could potentially help since so many building blocks, unlikely to get more than 2-3cm tho

 

[N30N]

Will only get you to genetically predetermined height

I'm only 17, which isn't too old for raw primal benefits to take effect, I'm just going to lock in with whatever time i have left.

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Glucosamine is in raw foods so maybe 2 cm from that
Raw milk could potentially help since so many building blocks, unlikely to get more than 2-3cm tho

Lifts are good too It barely messes up posture too

 

[N30N]

Glucosamine is in raw foods so maybe 2 cm from that
Raw milk could potentially help since so many building blocks, unlikely to get more than 2-3cm tho

Hey, 182 cm mogs 179

 

[Whitepill]

Lifts are good too It barely messes up posture too

just be one of those chinese lift frauders that wear 3 inch shoes theory
but who really gives af

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

its hella cope

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theoretically wouldnt a dht derivative and test + ai be better then? I remember this one pakistani guy grew from 6'2 to 6'6 with a slayer frame from masteron

 

[Whitepill]

theoretically wouldnt a dht derivative and test + ai be better then? I remember this one pakistani guy grew from 6'2 to 6'6 with a slayer frame from masteron

pakiwaffen? yeah, that would be ideal
i still think he likely just had predetermined height though he always towered over ither classmates

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

pakiwaffen? yeah, that would be ideal
i still think he likely just had predetermined height though he always towered over ither classmates

Yea probably, i think most of it probably contributed to his frame, muscles and hands

 

[MA_ascender]

theoretically wouldnt a dht derivative and test + ai be better then? I remember this one pakistani guy grew from 6'2 to 6'6 with a slayer frame from masteron

sure but dht derivatives are bad as a looksmaxxer in general, crazy skin oiliness and you WILL bald, dont trust copers

 

[Whitepill]

@N30N if she already liked you lift frauding wont change her perspective
its just when turbo short guys try lift frauding or ugly guys that girls dont like (they never liked them in the first place)
applies with LL too tbh

 

[Whitepill]

Yea probably, i think most of it probably contributed to his frame, muscles and hands

even then he already had good genetics
likely just muscle

 

[MA_ascender]

sure but dht derivatives are bad as a looksmaxxer in general, crazy skin oiliness and you WILL bald, dont trust copers

they give a mogger debloat tho icl

 

[Whitepill]

sure but dht derivatives are bad as a looksmaxxer in general, crazy skin oiliness and you WILL bald, dont trust copers

this^
nuke your DHT being prettyboy with hair is life
even Goatis is on fin and dut

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

sure but dht derivatives are bad as a looksmaxxer in general, crazy skin oiliness and you WILL bald, dont trust copers

true and I've already seen thinning at 16 over

 

[Whitepill]

true and I've already seen thinning at 16 over

Im still not sure if meat is good post puberty cuz the gh will age you
but then i realize that it improves hormones and fertility which help prevent aging
in conclusion raw primal is ideal for aging
the sun is bad for aging at the same time tho just get tanning bed

 

[N30N]

Im still not sure if meat is good post puberty cuz the gh will age you
but then i realize that it improves hormones and fertility which help prevent aging
in conclusion raw primal is ideal for aging
the sun is bad for aging at the same time tho just get tanning bed

Gotis said the sun doesn't age you? It's natural and you should get as much sun as possible.

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Im still not sure if meat is good post puberty cuz the gh will age you
but then i realize that it improves hormones and fertility which help prevent aging
in conclusion raw primal is ideal for aging
the sun is bad for aging at the same time tho just get tanning bed

what would you replace instead of sunscreen

 

[N30N]

what would you replace instead of sunscreen

Tallow

 

[osteochondromyxoma]

Gotis said the sun doesn't age you? It's natural and you should get as much sun as possible.

Still theres science and if you look at uncontacted tribes they still have nasolabial folds and wrinkles that point and prove sun -aging theory