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Info Bonesmashing is cope - a debunk of this nonsense

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I'll start by addressing the popularity of bonesmashing: "bonesmashing" is meme turned into "method" by exploitative content-creators on social-media. Those like Kshami, baby shitly, and jester Patel have sworn-by this utter nonsense since the early looksmax boom on tiktok - alongside other copes like mewing & pulling-exercises pushed by the same jesters. The proposed mechanic of bonesmashing was originally "Wolff's law', a semi-valid mechanical-stress theory from 19th century Germany
Wolff's law, developed by the German anatomist and surgeon Julius Wolff in the 19th century, states that bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads under which it is placed. If loading on a particular bone increases, the bone will remodel itself over time to become stronger to resist that sort of loading. The internal architecture of the trabeculae undergoes adaptive changes, followed by secondary changes to the external cortical portion of the bone, perhaps becoming thicker as a result. The inverse is true as well: if the loading on a bone decreases, the bone will become less dense and weaker due to the lack of the stimulus required for continued remodeling.
Which in aesthetic contexts is false, and if anything disproves bonesmashing as a valid method for facial-aesthetics. Wolff's law is a slow & gradual process subsequent of loading, not hitting your face with a hammer.
To put it shortly: acute trauma won't improve your bone-structure, your bones will either remain the same or worsen due to repeated damage. The list of side effects is reason enough to never practice this BS
  • Facial fractures
  • Swelling and bruising
  • Nerve damage
  • Tooth and root-damage
  • TMJ injury and bite changes
  • Infection if the skin breaks
  • Facial asymmetry
  • Chronic pain or numbness
  • Concussion or vertigo
  • Permanent scarring
  • Disfigurement
Facial-aesthetics expert Mariana Martinez perfectly explains why it doesn't work in this article linked bellow, because contrary to popular belief, insecure teenagers on looksmaxing forums actually don't know more than university graduates, what a shocker.

When one wrong-move with filler injections can induce facial-paralysis from nerve damage, what did you ever think hours of repeated blunt-force trauma would do?
These aesthetic experts aren't trying to avoid people ascending from bonesmashing, if anything people fucking up their face from it would increase their profits, so there's no reason not to trust them on this. Arguments in favor of bonesmashing will always trace their roots in greed or incompetence, opposed to real scientific logic.
And no, scar-tissue logic doesn't debunk this, why on earth people ever thought this deducts from the endless list of established risks is beyond me.

If you actually want the results jesters claim it'll give you, get filler. There's many people versed on this topic floating around the looksmaxing community, @Orka is a good example on this forum, read his guides or pay up, brokie.
 
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none of the regular users advocate for bone smashing as far as i’m aware

must reads is outdated but they allegedly have a group pm going to add more modern threads to it
I've seen many people vouch for it here, though I'm fairly new so my opinion isn't well-established. Regardless this forum needs a huge quality control upgrade and a zero-tolerance policy for misinformation
 
I've seen many people vouch for it here, though I'm fairly new so my opinion isn't well-established.
yeah numbers i agree but it’s a bunch of retarded greys
Regardless this forum needs a huge quality control upgrade and a zero-tolerance policy for misinformation
agreed @Orka has said you can pm him threads that spread misinformation btw
 
Are you just going to bitch like a 3-year-old or say anything even slightly insightful?
I dont even know your argument because the thread is unreadable from shit formatting
 
If it's "cope" explain the results I've gotten from bs'ing you guys haven't even researched properly
A few reasons come to mind: you're a teenager & in puberty, you're an idiot and hallucinating your results, or you're just bull-shitting to cope with your sub-humanity
 
I'll start by addressing the popularity of bonesmashing: "bonesmashing" is meme turned into "method" by exploitative content-creators on social-media. Those like Kshami, baby shitly, and jester Patel have sworn-by this utter nonsense since the early looksmax boom on tiktok - alongside other copes like mewing & pulling-exercises pushed by the same jesters. The proposed mechanic of bonesmashing was originally "Wolff's law', a semi-valid mechanical-stress theory from 19th century Germany
Which in aesthetic contexts is false, and if anything disproves bonesmashing as a valid method for facial-aesthetics. Wolff's law is a slow & gradual process subsequent of loading, not hitting your face with a hammer.
To put it shortly: acute trauma won't improve your bone-structure, your bones will either remain the same or worsen due to repeated damage. The list of side effects is reason enough to never practice this BS
  • Facial fractures
  • Swelling and bruising
  • Nerve damage
  • Tooth and root-damage
  • TMJ injury and bite changes
  • Infection if the skin breaks
  • Facial asymmetry
  • Chronic pain or numbness
  • Concussion or vertigo
  • Permanent scarring
  • Disfigurement
Facial-aesthetics expert Mariana Martinez perfectly explains why it doesn't work in this article linked bellow, because contrary to popular belief, insecure teenagers on looksmaxing forums actually don't know more than university graduates, what a shocker.

When one wrong-move with filler injections can induce facial-paralysis from nerve damage, what did you ever think hours of repeated blunt-force trauma would do?
These aesthetic experts aren't trying to avoid people ascending from bonesmashing, if anything people fucking up their face from it would increase their profits, so there's no reason not to trust them on this. Arguments in favor of bonesmashing will always trace their roots in greed or incompetence, opposed to real scientific logic.
And no, scar-tissue logic doesn't debunk this, why on earth people ever thought this deducts from the endless list of established risks is beyond me.

If you actually want the results jesters claim it'll give you, get filler. There's many people versed on this topic floating around the looksmaxing community, @Orka is a good example on this forum, read his guides or pay up, brokie.
I haven't given much attention to bonesmashing or how pharmaceutical treatment helps with bone size, I'm aware that most hgh based treatments with either gh itself or a secretagogue only improves mineral density but what do you think of AAS for it? Never had the time to look into it properly and don't really care enough to since my problems just get solved with filler
 
I'll start by addressing the popularity of bonesmashing: "bonesmashing" is meme turned into "method" by exploitative content-creators on social-media. Those like Kshami, baby shitly, and jester Patel have sworn-by this utter nonsense since the early looksmax boom on tiktok - alongside other copes like mewing & pulling-exercises pushed by the same jesters. The proposed mechanic of bonesmashing was originally "Wolff's law', a semi-valid mechanical-stress theory from 19th century Germany
Which in aesthetic contexts is false, and if anything disproves bonesmashing as a valid method for facial-aesthetics. Wolff's law is a slow & gradual process subsequent of loading, not hitting your face with a hammer.
To put it shortly: acute trauma won't improve your bone-structure, your bones will either remain the same or worsen due to repeated damage. The list of side effects is reason enough to never practice this BS
  • Facial fractures
  • Swelling and bruising
  • Nerve damage
  • Tooth and root-damage
  • TMJ injury and bite changes
  • Infection if the skin breaks
  • Facial asymmetry
  • Chronic pain or numbness
  • Concussion or vertigo
  • Permanent scarring
  • Disfigurement
Facial-aesthetics expert Mariana Martinez perfectly explains why it doesn't work in this article linked bellow, because contrary to popular belief, insecure teenagers on looksmaxing forums actually don't know more than university graduates, what a shocker.

When one wrong-move with filler injections can induce facial-paralysis from nerve damage, what did you ever think hours of repeated blunt-force trauma would do?
These aesthetic experts aren't trying to avoid people ascending from bonesmashing, if anything people fucking up their face from it would increase their profits, so there's no reason not to trust them on this. Arguments in favor of bonesmashing will always trace their roots in greed or incompetence, opposed to real scientific logic.
And no, scar-tissue logic doesn't debunk this, why on earth people ever thought this deducts from the endless list of established risks is beyond me.

If you actually want the results jesters claim it'll give you, get filler. There's many people versed on this topic floating around the looksmaxing community, @Orka is a good example on this forum, read his guides or pay up, brokie.
retarded post rope NOW
 
I haven't given much attention to bonesmashing or how pharmaceutical treatment helps with bone size, I'm aware that most hgh based treatments with either gh itself or a secretagogue only improves mineral density but what do you think of AAS for it? Never had the time to look into it properly and don't really care enough to since my problems just get solved with filler
Using an AAS during puberty will enhance male dimo & result in the associated features having an accelerated/greater growth, however doing it effectively and safely as a teen is near-impossible if you're not high IQ, i don't even advocate for fully-grown adults to attempt this stuff by themselves, let alone children. Outside of puberty it's more individual - your bones are obviously influenced by them less, however some can still benefit from using them. It's not my area of expertise, nor have i used AAS's myself, but from what i know, past 20 the ROI is significantly reduced from anything craniofacial
 
I'll start by addressing the popularity of bonesmashing: "bonesmashing" is meme turned into "method" by exploitative content-creators on social-media. Those like Kshami, baby shitly, and jester Patel have sworn-by this utter nonsense since the early looksmax boom on tiktok - alongside other copes like mewing & pulling-exercises pushed by the same jesters. The proposed mechanic of bonesmashing was originally "Wolff's law', a semi-valid mechanical-stress theory from 19th century Germany
Which in aesthetic contexts is false, and if anything disproves bonesmashing as a valid method for facial-aesthetics. Wolff's law is a slow & gradual process subsequent of loading, not hitting your face with a hammer.
To put it shortly: acute trauma won't improve your bone-structure, your bones will either remain the same or worsen due to repeated damage. The list of side effects is reason enough to never practice this BS
  • Facial fractures
  • Swelling and bruising
  • Nerve damage
  • Tooth and root-damage
  • TMJ injury and bite changes
  • Infection if the skin breaks
  • Facial asymmetry
  • Chronic pain or numbness
  • Concussion or vertigo
  • Permanent scarring
  • Disfigurement
Facial-aesthetics expert Mariana Martinez perfectly explains why it doesn't work in this article linked bellow, because contrary to popular belief, insecure teenagers on looksmaxing forums actually don't know more than university graduates, what a shocker.

When one wrong-move with filler injections can induce facial-paralysis from nerve damage, what did you ever think hours of repeated blunt-force trauma would do?
These aesthetic experts aren't trying to avoid people ascending from bonesmashing, if anything people fucking up their face from it would increase their profits, so there's no reason not to trust them on this. Arguments in favor of bonesmashing will always trace their roots in greed or incompetence, opposed to real scientific logic.
And no, scar-tissue logic doesn't debunk this, why on earth people ever thought this deducts from the endless list of established risks is beyond me.

If you actually want the results jesters claim it'll give you, get filler. There's many people versed on this topic floating around the looksmaxing community, @Orka is a good example on this forum, read his guides or pay up, brokie.
Swelling = works
 
Swelling = works
It looks terrible, and doesn't make you exempt from the side effects:
  • Swelling and bruising
  • Nerve damage
  • Tooth and root-damage
  • TMJ injury and bite changes
  • Infection if the skin breaks
  • Facial asymmetry
  • Chronic pain or numbness
  • Concussion or vertigo
  • Permanent scarring
  • Disfigurement
You're not influencing any real change so it doesn't do anything for aesthetics
 
It looks terrible, and doesn't make you exempt from the side effects:
It looks good on my chin when i do it
You're not influencing any real change so it doesn't do anything for aesthetics
“Real change” doesn’t matter for aesthetics in the moment
Thats like saying makeup doesnt do anything for aesthetics because it’s not a “real change”
 
It looks good on my chin when i do it
I doubt it does - there's a 99% chance this is just bias from being in this community too long. Even if it did work, it doesn't distract from the many risks subsequent of bonesmashing, if you keep doing it you will look worse.

"Real change” doesn’t matter for aesthetics in the moment
Thats like saying makeup doesnt do anything for aesthetics because it’s not a “real change”
"Real change" as in it working whatsoever, it's what i said before this. Swelling is too unpredictable & insignificant for there to be any point in doing it, you'll just end up looking like 2024 clav
 
I doubt it does - there's a 99% chance this is just bias from being in this community too long. Even if it did work, it doesn't distract from the many risks subsequent of bonesmashing, if you keep doing it you will look worse
I measured the recession relative to frankfurt plane and other chin related measurements prior to and after bone smashing
Objectively, it looked better since there was no bruising too
“Real change" as in it working whatsoever, it's what i said before this. Swelling is too unpredictable & insignificant for there to be any point in doing it, you'll just end up looking like 2024 clav
Varies from every experience ig
My personal experience with it has been positive and somewhat significant
 
Good to see someone who actually understands this dosent work and the 'results' are mostly just temporary swelling from injury on the skin, Wolff's law has been slandered by the looksmaxxers tbh.

Every time there is real info on this forum and it goes agaisnt what tiktok looksmaxxer people are saying, 14 year olds from Mumbai will say you're lying, I even got told my jaw surgery results are fake and I didn't get surgery (?)
 
I measured the recession relative to frankfurt plane and other chin related measurements prior to and after bone smashing
Objectively, it looked better since there was no bruising too
Negligible benefits + the risk

Varies from every experience ig
My personal experience with it has been positive and somewhat significant
That's yours then, beyond the validity of your statements it doesn't rationalize bonesmashing as a practice
 
Negligible benefits + the risk
Minimal risk unless youre doing your infras or some bullshit
That's yours then, beyond the validity of your statements it doesn't rationalize bonesmashing as a practice
Sure, but it also can’t just be written off as cope in general
 
Thats because i used some bullshit that time
I didnt have my hammer so i used some random can with salt
Previously, i saw good results with my hammer
I want to smash my fucking skull and break it
 
Minimal risk unless youre doing your infras or some bullshit
You can safely assume you'll be victim to side effects if you're doing this repeatedly

Sure, but it also can’t just be written off as cope in general
Yes it can, it's like saying "I didn't get cancer from smoking - must be fine" it's personal experience; not objective reality. I assure you, your SMV is not increasing from a swollen chin. I can stick Play-Doh to my zygos and have an ideal measurement, but if i stepped outside I'd be curb-stomped & robbed. You can't defend swelling for aesthetics, it's unsustainable and counter-intuitive no matter how you slice is, there's zero evidence to suggest it works in any aesthetic context, people look retarded doing it
 
Good to see someone who actually understands this dosent work and the 'results' are mostly just temporary swelling from injury on the skin, Wolff's law has been slandered by the looksmaxxers tbh.
The temporary results are nice tbh
 
You can safely assume you'll be victim to side effects if you're doing this repeatedly
Even so, just because something has side effects does not mean it doesn’t work
It would just mean it’s not optimal, not that it’s cope
Yes it can, it's like saying "I didn't get cancer from smoking - must be fine" it's personal experience; not objective reality.
Not even close to a good analogy
Whatever I said is closer to a cancer patient experiencing a change in hair color after their chemotherapy, which is uncommon, but still happens as to people in the community frequently seeing good temporary results due to swelling
I assure you, your SMV is not increasing from a swollen chin. I can stick Play-Doh to my zygos and have an ideal measurement, but if i stepped outside I'll be curb-stomped & robbed.
Again, another shitty analogy
Play-Doh to your zygos is a much more noticeable and extreme example compared to the minor bruising, if any, from moderate bonesmashing
You can't defend swelling for aesthetics, it's unsustainable and counter-intuitive no matter how you slice is, there's zero evidence to suggest it works in any aesthetic context, people look retarded doing it
It is unsustainable, but in the moment it is a positive effect on aesthetics
Let me make my stance clear; I am defending the use of bonesmashing for temporary results, not sustained or permanent results
 
Even so, just because something has side effects does not mean it doesn’t work
It would just mean it’s not optimal, not that it’s cope
When the side effects are a guarantee rather than possibility - it does.

Not even close to a good analogy
Whatever I said is closer to a cancer patient experiencing a change in hair color after their chemotherapy, which is uncommon, but still happens as to people in the community frequently seeing good temporary results due to swelling
That's uncommon, negative effects from bonesmashing aren't.

Again, another shitty analogy
Play-Doh to your zygos is a much more noticeable and extreme example compared to the minor bruising, if any, from moderate bonesmashing
That was a joke, you can probably deduce that from the curb-stomping. Regardless it's of the same nature when talking about the perception of the so-called benefits that are claimed

It is unsustainable, but in the moment it is a positive effect on aesthetics
Let me make my stance clear; I am defending the use of bonesmashing for temporary results, not sustained or permanent results
For you, if it really does work short-term, sure. However there's still risks to addresses - even with rare practice. The vast-majority look utterly retarded from swelling induced by bonesmashing, making you an outlier & irrelevant to mainstream discussion
 
When the side effects are a guarantee rather than possibility - it does.
Overexaggerated risk profile tbh
It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work though?
That's uncommon, negative effects from bonesmashing aren't.
Again, negative effects doesnt equal nonfunction
That was a joke, you can probably deduce that from the curb-stomping. Regardless it's of the same nature when talking about the perception of the so-called benefits that are claimed
Either way, extreme example
For you, if it really does work short-term, sure. However there's still risks to addresses - even with rare practice. The vast-majority look utterly retarded from swelling induced by bonesmashing, making you an outlier & irrelevant to mainstream discussion
Mainstream discussion is honestly cope in this scenario tbh
Idk why i brought it up
Shit needs to be somewhat standardized for any real conclusions to be made
I heard Anton Verada set up a small study on bone smashing a while ago?
 
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Overexaggerated risk profile tbh
It doesn’t mean it doesn’t work though?
How? Acute trauma is very dangerous

Again, negative effects dont equivocate nonfunction
Functionally is determined by effectiveness as much as it's danger

Either way, extreme example
It's an exaggeration don't take it at face-value

Mainstream discussion is honestly cope in this scenario tbh
Idk why i brought it up
Shit needs to be somewhat standardized for any real conclusions to be made
I heard Anton Verada set up a small study on bone smashing a while ago?
An active study means nothing with no results - i also have zero idea who that is
 
How? Acute trauma is very dangerous
Its not acute trauma
Its blunt force trauma
Its localized and not very dangerous
Functionally is determined by effectiveness as much as it's danger
Sorry, instead of what i said previously, let me rephrase
Negative results don’t mean there aren’t also positive results, which is what we’re debating about
It's an exaggeration don't take it at face-value
The fact that it is an exaggeration is what im referring to when i say it can’t be useful in the argument
An active study means nothing with no results - i also have zero idea who that is
Idk i’ll check to see if he has finished the study
I was jusy putting it out there that i remember somebody was making a somewhat standardized study on it
 
Its not acute trauma
Its blunt force trauma
Its localized and not very dangerous
It just means quick, bonesmashing isn't done with much grace, unless you're bone-rubbing that hammer on your chin

Sorry, instead of what i said previously, let me rephrase
Negative results don’t mean there aren’t also positive results, which is what we’re debating about
Ofc, but i all ready addressed this

The fact that it is an exaggeration is what im referring to when i say it can’t be useful in the argument
Have an imagination, this isn't a lecture hall

The n***a never posted the study ✌️😂

Idk i’ll check to see if he has finished the study
I was jusy putting it out there that i remember somebody was making a somewhat standardized study on it
classic
 
Quick not dangerous tho

Positive results = good
Dnr the sides of course

Dnr
Whatever, it's working for you supposedly & i don't care to pick apart more. My main point: bonesmashing is cope 99% of the time, you can't disagree that swelling looks fucking hideous on most people
 
Whatever, it's working for you supposedly & i don't care to pick apart more. My main point: bonesmashing is cope 99% of the time, you can't disagree that swelling looks fucking hideous on most people
99% is an exaggeration
I think it looks good on a lot of people
 

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