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[emeraldpill]

@snow @Newday @slopslinger @snoblomov @Clone

 

[Vaelor]

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@snow @Newday @slopslinger @snoblomov @Clone

pretty good

 

[Air]

Nіgga. Start with 500mg off the rippy skippy; forget tren and eq on ur first cycle and just focus on gains from test. 100 tren won’t do literally anything anyways. Instead, you can add an oral, such as anavar or anadrol, that shit mogs.

 

[emeraldpill]

Nіgga. Start with 500mg off the rippy skippy; forget tren and eq on ur first cycle and just focuse on gains from test. 100 tren won’t do literally anything anyways. Instead, you can add an oral, such as anavar or anadrol, that shit mogs.

My liver is (maybe was) not in a great place anyway, so I’m not going to do an oral

Tren will be dependent on how liver is looking week 7/8

 

[snow]

Looks good except test and eq should be at a 2:1 ratio always, otherwise you will have to face the depression and anxiety of crashing your estrogen and it will take weeks to go away

 

[Air]

My liver is (maybe was) not in a great place anyway, so I’m not going to do an oral

Tren will be dependent on how liver is looking week 7/8

A standard dose oral is probably less hepatotoxic than 100mg tren. Have your ancillaries in check and you will be balling. I run IFBB doses, but because my ancillaries are locked in, I healthmog most nattys.

 

[Bloxy]

whats eq stand for

 

[snow]

My liver is (maybe was) not in a great place anyway, so I’m not going to do an oral

Tren will be dependent on how liver is looking week 7/8

100mg tren is the sweet spot and perfect for a finisher imo. Good cycle. For liver you should take NAC. Make sure you have high dose melatonin pills on hand for tren, it actually helps

 

[emeraldpill]

Looks good except test and eq should be at a 2:1 ratio always, otherwise you will have to face the depression and anxiety of crashing your estrogen and it will take weeks to go away

I assumed because eq takes a while to get going it’d be fine to line up with the titration? I guess I can start higher on the test or just match the eq ratio for the first few weeks

 

[emeraldpill]

whats eq stand for

Equipoise

 

[Bloxy]

Equipoise

is it to mitigate side effects?

 

[Air]

100mg tren is the sweet spot and perfect for a finisher imo. Good cycle. For liver you should take NAC. Make sure you have high dose melatonin pills on hand for tren, it actually helps

Nіgga 100 tren will do nothing but bring you side effects. Absolutely pointless. I do agree that tren should only be run at low doses, but 100 is a joke. Besides, you should only use tren on rapid cuts for its anti-catabolic properties; the actual gains should all mainly come from test, GH and slin.

 

[snow]

Nіgga. Start with 500mg off the rippy skippy; forget tren and eq on ur first cycle and just focus on gains from test. 100 tren won’t do literally anything anyways. Instead, you can add an oral, such as anavar or anadrol, that shit mogs.

Eq is a godsend compound, I wish I had started it earlier tbh

 

[emeraldpill]

is it to mitigate side effects?

It’s got various functions but yeah it’s a mild ai

 

[Damian Kater]

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@snow @Newday @slopslinger @snoblomov @Clone

Nice

 

[Air]

Eq is a godsend compound, I wish I had started it earlier tbh

Ngl Eq is tempting, but it takes so fucking long to saturate, and I’m pretty sure it has some annoying sides that you need to take care of. I may be wrong tho.

 

[snow]

Nіgga 100 tren will do nothing but bring you side effects. Absolutely pointless. I do agree that tren should only be run at low doses, but 100 is a joke. Besides, you should only use tren on rapid cuts for its anti-catabolic properties; the actual gains should all mainly come from test, GH and slin.

The nutrient partitioning from tren starts at 50mg a week btw, some go even lower. Most won’t get any sides at 100mg a week

 

[emeraldpill]

A standard dose oral is probably less hepatotoxic than 100mg tren. Have your ancillaries in check and you will be balling. I run IFBB doses, but because my ancillaries are locked in, I healthmog most nattys.

Yeah I’ve got ancillaries in the rows under what’s pictured, still updating it though so might post again once its final

What orals have you done?

 

[Air]

The nutrient partitioning from tren starts at 50mg a week btw, some go even lower. Most won’t get any sides at 100mg a week

Just use slin for that. The absolute worst part about tren is that 19nor stays in your system for like a year, passively suppressing you even after a successful pct.

 

[snow]

Ngl Eq is tempting, but it takes so fucking long to saturate, and I’m pretty sure it has some annoying sides that you need to take care of. I may be wrong tho.

Yeah u can crash ur estrogen if you run it at the wrong ratio to test, pretty easy to mitigate. It’s main drawback is the time it takes to saturate but 20 week blasts are better anyway

 

[Air]

Yeah I’ve got ancillaries in the rows under what’s pictured, still updating it though so might post again once its final

What orals have you done?

Var and adrol. Adrol is one of my favourite roids in general; it’s a godsent preworkout. Show me your ancillaries tho.

 

[snow]

Just use slin for that. The absolute worst part about tren is that 19nor stays in your system for like a year, passively suppressing you even after a successful pct.

Im gonna look in to slin. Im not planning to pct tho just blasting and cruising for the time being

 

[Air]

Yeah u can crash ur estrogen if you run it at the wrong ratio to test, pretty easy to mitigate. It’s main drawback is the time it takes to saturate but 20 week blasts are better anyway

I’m doing a 16w blast, and already cannot be FUCKED pinning as much as I am. Imagine also having to throw in 500mg eq on top of everything else I have going on rn. Besides, my cycle is due to finish mid-May, so I doubt there’s even a point in starting Eq this late.

 

[emeraldpill]

Var and adrol. Adrol is one of my favourite roids in general; it’s a godsent preworkout. Show me your ancillaries tho.

I’ll post again tomorrow, laptops away

 

[Air]

Im gonna look in to slin. Im not planning to pct tho just blasting and cruising for the time being

@Sadist made a good guide about it on .org, the info there is legit, should save you some research time. I myself fucking love slin.

 

[snow]

I’m doing a 16w blast, and already cannot be FUCKED pinning as much as I am. Imagine also having to throw in 500mg eq on top of everything else I have going on rn. Besides, my cycle is due to finish mid-May, so I doubt there’s even a point in starting Eq this late.

Save it for the next one tbh it takes like 10 weeks to saturate

 

[Air]

Save it for the next one tbh it takes like 10 weeks to saturate

Pisstake.

 

[Newday]

Nіgga. Start with 500mg off the rippy skippy; forget tren and eq on ur first cycle and just focus on gains from test. 100 tren won’t do literally anything anyways. Instead, you can add an oral, such as anavar or anadrol, that shit mogs.

Looksmax.org cycle

Spoiler: explanation

The Eq allows him to push the test higher by acting as an ai, whilst allowing an anabolic stimulus, creates vascularity, it is able to be ran long term with minimal protocol

n****r said 100 tren aint doing anything is bro serious, 100 tren is within standard dose range, it isnt high but it will give gains without the burnout side effects, you can see he is running it for 12 weeks. And no he shouldn’t do 500 test off rip thats retarded, his eq needs to saturate in line with the test saturation and eq has a longer saturation period, also when you start you still have extra natural testosterone in your system which should have a grace period to ride off as it gets replaced so he doesn’t suffer e2 sides

 

[Newday]

I’m doing a 16w blast, and already cannot be FUCKED pinning as much as I am. Imagine also having to throw in 500mg eq on top of everything else I have going on rn. Besides, my cycle is due to finish mid-May, so I doubt there’s even a point in starting Eq this late.

frontload it and it will take 4 weeks to fully saturate

 

[Air]

Looksmax.org cycle


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Spoiler: explanation

The Eq allows him to push the test higher by acting as an ai, whilst allowing an anabolic stimulus, creates vascularity, it is able to be ran long term with minimal protocol

n****r said 100 tren aint doing anything is bro serious, 100 tren is within standard dose range, it isnt high but it will give gains without the burnout side effects, you can see he is running it for 12 weeks. And no he shouldn’t do 500 test off rip thats retarded, his eq needs to saturate in line with the test saturation and eq has a longer saturation period, also when you start you still have extra natural testosterone in your system which should have a grace period to ride off as it gets replaced so he doesn’t suffer e2 sides

You’re deeping it bro. Even if he were to do as you suggest, he would need to start test about 5 weeks after starting eq. Just use fucking exemestane and don’t cope with bullshit on your FIRST CYCLE. Literally any roider that has run serious doses will tell you that the difference between 100 and 250 tren is fucking massive in terms of benefit - but not so much in sides. It’s exactly the same for test, where sides only start to climb post-500mg. All this matching bullshit is just doing too much. If proper ancillaries don’t have you covered on such cycle - then roiding is not for you to begin with.

 

[Newday]

You can extend this cycle duration tremendously btw, by like another 10 weeks

 

[Newday]

You’re deeping it bro. Even if he were to do as you suggest, he would need to start test about 5 weeks after starting eq.

? genuinely how, he can start both at the same time and titrate up his test so its lines up with eq’s saturation

Just use fucking exemestane and don’t cope with bullshit on your FIRST CYCLE.

How is this bullshit, its literally eq

Literally any roider that has run serious doses will tell you that the difference between 100 and 250 tren is fucking massive in terms of benefit - but not so much in sides.

This is very person dependent with the in terms with sides, also it is goal dependant in terms of what you want out of the compound

if he merely wants nutrition partioning effects, 100mg is a fine dose for that

where sides only start to climb post-500mg.

No not really, sides are person dependent and protocol dependant.

All this matching bullshit is just doing too much.

? its basic planning

If proper ancillaries don’t have you covered on such cycle - then roiding is not for you to begin with.

? what

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

did blud just copy snow's stack..

also would post what imma start for summer but im waiting till next month and till im stocked up

 

[Air]

? genuinely how, he can start both at the same time and titrate up his test so its lines up with eq’s saturation

If that’s the case then he may as well start with 500 test.

How is this bullshit, its literally eq

Because AIs exist for a reason?

This is very person dependent with the in terms with sides, also it is goal dependant in terms of what you want out of the compound

Well tren in mainly useful for its insane anti-catabolic properties. Shit like nutrient partitioning is way better on insulin, for example.

if he merely wants nutrition partioning effects, 100mg is a fine dose for that

refer to above

No not really, sides are person dependent and protocol dependant.

Of course they are, but that’s the general rule.

? its basic planning

I am willing to bet £100 that he will not feel a molecule of difference between doing it your way - and my way. Except with your way, he will simply take extra steps and more effort.

? what

Exactly what I said.

 

[snoblomov]

5:3 test to eq ratio works best for most people, forget the tren and take 800 test 500 eq.

Just use slin for that. The absolute worst part about tren is that 19nor stays in your system for like a year, passively suppressing you even after a successful pct.

who the fuck is pcting in 2026 @Newday @snow get a load of this.


op even if you don't take 19-nors once you get on there's no getting off, everyone thinks they'll be one and done but you're signing up for a lifetime of jabbing whether you realize it or not.

 

[snow]

5:3 test to eq ratio works best for most people, forget the tren and take 800 test 500 eq.


who the fuck is pcting in 2026 @Newday @snow get a load of this.


op even if you don't take 19-nors once you get on there's no getting off, everyone thinks they'll be one and done but you're signing up for a lifetime of jabbing whether you realize it or not.

You could pct after a few years of blast and cruising and pretty much get ur normal test production back but why be low T when u can just cruise forever

 

[snoblomov]

You could pct after a few years of blast and cruising and pretty much get ur normal test production back but why be low T when u can just cruise forever

priorities in life change but in the medium term I doubt anyone would be content with natty levels after a good blast.

 

[emeraldpill]

did blud just copy snow's stack..

also would post what imma start for summer but im waiting till next month and till im stocked up

It was 600 and 300, dropped it to same as snow so yeah kinda

 

[Air]

5:3 test to eq ratio works best for most people, forget the tren and take 800 test 500 eq.


who the fuck is pcting in 2026 @Newday @snow get a load of this.


op even if you don't take 19-nors once you get on there's no getting off, everyone thinks they'll be one and done but you're signing up for a lifetime of jabbing whether you realize it or not.

This user has not touched a single needle in his life btw.

I never explicitly told Emerald to PCT - I just named a scenario. 800 test for the first cycle is also a bit much, especially considering OP stated that he doesn’t fully trust his liver AND the fact that he’s using enenthate on top of that, meaning it’s nowhere near as convenient in terms of assessing how one handles it compared to prop.

Also where the fuck did you get that last bit from? PCT is very much legit, even with just gonadotropins on their own. You just sounded like you were trying to be edgy there.

 

[Newday]

If that’s the case then he may as well start with 500 test.

He needs to line up the test with eq’s saturation…. also at the start he’d have higher aromatisation due to endogenous test still being in his system

Because AIs exist for a reason?

You can use eq as an ai.

Well tren in mainly useful for its insane anti-catabolic properties. Shit like nutrient partitioning is way better on insulin, for example.

? it has that effect on its own

Of course they are, but that’s the general rule.

I am willing to bet £100 that he will not feel a molecule of difference between doing it your way - and my way. Except with your way, he will simply take extra steps and more effort.

He will, he will suffer estrogen sides early if he were to go in doing 500mg test, the eq is not saturated either so there is a mismatch.

The extra steps is just titrating which is basic shit

 

[Newday]

800 test for the first cycle is also a bit much, especially considering OP stated that he doesn’t fully trust his liver AND the fact that he’s using enenthate on top of that, meaning it’s nowhere near as convenient in terms of assessing how one handles it compared to prop.

test itself is not doing shit to the liver especially it’s ester out of everything

 

[Newday]

op even if you don't take 19-nors once you get on there's no getting off, everyone thinks they'll be one and done but you're signing up for a lifetime of jabbing whether you realize it or not.

You’re not, 19nors just have metabolites that stay in the system for long and actively suppress you.

With Tren E it’d be 3+ months somewhere around that, with Deca it is up to 18 months

 

[Air]

He needs to line up the test with eq’s saturation…. also at the start he’d have higher aromatisation due to endogenous test still being in his system

You can use eq as an ai.

? it has that effect on its own



He will, he will suffer estrogen sides early if he were to go in doing 500mg test, the eq is not saturated either so there is a mismatch.

The extra steps is just titrating which is basic shit

Using Eq as an AI is the dumbest shit ever, as it takes 800 years to saturate, and only THEN will you know if it’s sending your E2 into the correct range or not. As you yourself said, everyone is different mate. It’s way easier to just pop asin daily and adjust dosage according to your body’s aromatase concentration than gamble and wait weeks just to clock that your E2 is still too high OR crashed to shit (which is probably more likely). First cycle should be simple and introductory, but also effective, of course.

 

[Air]

test itself is not doing shit to the liver especially it’s ester out of everything

Again, different for everyone, especially past 500mg, as I said. I’ve seen people go yellow on 600mg (rare but is a fact)

 

[Newday]

Again, different for everyone, especially past 500mg, as I said. I’ve seen people go yellow on 600mg (rare but is a fact)

Yo there gear may be laced with some fucked up shit bro

 

[Newday]

Using Eq as an AI is the dumbest shit ever, as it takes 800 years to saturate, and only THEN will you know if it’s sending your E2 into the correct range or not.

Dude it’s not, the effect works while it’s reaching peak saturation, it can work almost instantly but at a climbing smaller scale.

It’s a strong aromatase inhibitor, anyway if he wants to line it up better he can just frontload and it would be saturated by 4 weeks like an enanthate ester if he really wanted to.

As you yourself said, everyone is different mate. It’s way easier to just pop asin daily and adjust dosage according to your body’s aromatase concentration than gamble and wait weeks just to clock that your E2 is still too high OR crashed to shit (which is probably more likely). First cycle should be simple and introductory, but also effective, of course.

Yes true Eq is less predictable doesn’t mean it’s shit though, 2:1- 3:1 test to eq is a safe standard, at higher doses of test you can usually run eq tighter to the amount of test

He should be looking at this long, and eq is cheap and long acting and will last him ages throughout the cycle with anabolic benefits while adding to the amount of gear in his system with basically minimal sides u dont even need to think about. His shit us 20 weeks possibly longer

 

[Ferulian]

thanks for the tag

 

[bleeder]

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@snow @Newday @slopslinger @snoblomov @Clone

ur a man??!!?!!!!!!!??!!!!?!!???
?!!?!?!!!!!??!!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!?!!!

 

[bleeder]

like srs
ur a man?

 

[emeraldpill]

thanks for the tag

Sorry bud I just tagged the guys I knew are on gear