Discussion does unconditional love exist

[yazub]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

 

[sodium]

id murder someone for 20 bucks and a gta shark card

 

[AListhegoat]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

Yes. God.

 

[Mystericus]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

All love is conditional. "Unconditional" love is just what we call conditional love that's too minor to be mentioned

you can be hyper materialistic and say something like their mere existence is a conditional, but it mostly boils down to the type of person they are, what they look like, where they are etc etc

 

[yazub]

Yes. God.

All love is conditional. "Unconditional" love is just what we call conditional love that's too minor to be mentioned

you can be hyper materialistic and say something like their mere existence is a conditional, but it mostly boils down to the type of person they are, what they look like, where they are etc etc

religious debate speedrun

 

[Angel]

yes

 

[yazub]

yes

if you put aside family would you still say the same?

 

[yazub]

Yes. God.

he literally sends you to eternal damnation if you dont believe in him

thats not loving at all

abnd dont try to say no bs about like "you're just choosing to be seperate from him and that's true love because you have choice"

because that's just an illusion of choice, the extra option is just there so he can say its real love when in reality its just one big blackmail

 

[Solemn.]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

Unconditional love baby
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[yazub]

All love is conditional. "Unconditional" love is just what we call conditional love that's too minor to be mentioned

you can be hyper materialistic and say something like their mere existence is a conditional, but it mostly boils down to the type of person they are, what they look like, where they are etc etc

i halfway agree

i think unconditional love is too rare and you're saying it doesn't exist because the major percentage of the world has never seen it

if we give unconditional love (ironically) the condition of being human/having the cognitive ability to experience and give love, then it will exist

what would you say about the relationship between a homeless man and his dog?

is that not unconditional love?

 

[Cuckㅤ]

lol

 

[Mystericus]

i halfway agree

i think unconditional love is too rare and you're saying it doesn't exist because the major percentage of the world has never seen it

It does exist, but it's just statistically irreverent. It's like saying "Well you can survive going 120 MPH while you're drunk-driving", like sure, people have done that & lived, but if 99% of people die doing it, why even talk about the 1%? In other words; it's the perception of their given/received unconditional love that inflates the true number - and that true number being so minuscule, it's hardly worth mentioning. Us humans evolved for survival, weighing the pros/cons of a situation is just our nature, and once those cons pile up, the illusion of unconditional love fades.

what would you say about the relationship between a homeless man and his dog?

is that not unconditional love?

Say the dog bites the head off his child, will he still then love it? Of-course not; it's the condition of the dogs behavior that warrants love; not the dog itself

 

[Vastu07]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me
i'd murder someone for her
i love her
but through strangers is debatable

The world, it's entities, us humans, our identities etc all are conditional. Love is a part of your body (actually a feedback loop) so it is obviously conditioal.

 

[yazub]

It does exist, but it's just statistically irreverent. It's like saying "Well you can survive going 120 MPH while you're drunk-driving", like sure, people have done that & lived, but if 99% of people die doing it, why even talk about the 1%? In other words; it's the perception of their given/received unconditional love that inflates the true number - and that true number being so minuscule, it's hardly worth mentioning. Us humans evolved for survival, weighing the pros/cons of a situation is just our nature, and once those cons pile up, the illusion of unconditional love fades.


Say the dog bites the head off his child, will he still then love it? Of-course not; it's the condition of the dogs behavior that warrants love; not the dog itself

so true love doesnt exist?

holy truke

 

[AListhegoat]

he literally sends you to eternal damnation if you dont believe in him

thats not loving at all

abnd dont try to say no bs about like "you're just choosing to be seperate from him and that's true love because you have choice"

because that's just an illusion of choice, the extra option is just there so he can say its real love when in reality its just one big blackmail

He created you,he owns you.
You don't get to question an almighty all powerful all knowing entity who knows the best for you and humanity.

 

[yazub]

He created you,he owns you.
You don't get to question an almighty all powerful all knowing entity who knows the best for you and humanity.

so im supposed to give up my critical thinking and devote my life to them?

sounds like slavery yo

 

[AListhegoat]

so im supposed to give up my critical thinking and devote my life to them?

sounds like slavery yo

You don't give up your critical thinking,you actually use it.
Who knows better, an entity who knows everything and is the most intelligent thing ever to exist or you

And it isn't just for nothing,you get heaven as a final reward,which is literal eternal rewards and pleasure.

 

[yazub]

You don't give up your critical thinking,you actually use it.

getting my ability to question revoked is literally giving up my critical thinking

Who knows better, an entity who knows everything and is the most intelligent thing ever to exist or you

probably the entity but that doesn't confirm its existence in the slightest

And it isn't just for nothing,you get heaven as a final reward,which is literal eternal rewards and pleasure.

eternal pleasure sounds dystopian

genuinely on some infinite tsukuyomi shit, you should watch naruto

u literally turn into even more of a drone than when you were following him

 

[Angel]

if you put aside family would you still say the same?

absolutely

 

[GlorytoLord]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

Only human unconditional love is from the mother
For strangers, not completely impossible but they'd have to have gone through hell and back for a long time

 

[yazub]

absolutely

do you unconditionally love anyone?

if you do would you still if they killed your parents

 

[yazub]

Only human unconditional love is from the mother
For strangers, not completely impossible but they'd have to have gone through hell and back for a long time

i think that it's still conditional, i've changed my mind.

i think that love is conditional and that's why we love in the first place

you started loving someone because of a condition, whether it be bc they're chad/stacy, you lived your whole life with them, or any other reason

the condition can just as easily be taken away

love inherently comes from condition so therefore it cannot be unconditional

 

[Mystericus]

so true love doesnt exist?

holy truke

Conditional love is just what love is

 

[Your friend]

It exists, but only between an arab man and white woman

 

[yazub]

Conditional love is just what love is

yea

love inherently comes from condition so therefore it cannot be unconditional

 

[Тоска́]

no love is unconditional. the condition for this love to emerge was a familial bond id say

 

[yazub]

It exists, but only between an arab man and white woman

those are conditions yo

 

[yazub]

no love is unconditional. the condition for this love to emerge was a familial bond id say

there is no reason to love without a condition

 

[AListhegoat]

getting my ability to question revoked is literally giving up my critical thinking

probably the entity but that doesn't confirm its existence in the slightest

eternal pleasure sounds dystopian

genuinely on some infinite tsukuyomi shit, you should watch naruto

u literally turn into even more of a drone than when you were following him

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Its eternal pleasure as in that everything there feels so good irregardless that It gives you so much pleasure,you can do what ever you want.

And you don't need to not question God,just find the answers then believe in it.

 

[tchiki brr]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

No

 

[yazub]

Its eternal pleasure as in that everything there feels so good irregardless that It gives you so much pleasure,you can do what ever you want.

dude

if you dont feel sadness happiness has no value

And you don't need to not question God,just find the answers then believe in it.

finding answers involves questioning boyo

have you ever tried to solve a math problem before

 

[Mandy?]

Goofy ass discussion

 

[AListhegoat]

dude

if you dont feel sadness happiness has no value

finding answers involves questioning boyo

have you ever tried to solve a math problem before

Not true
Happiness can be valuable irregardless.

And I already said you can question things,just at the end believe In God and don't still question his existence.
If you truly didn't know that Islam wasn't the truth and actually researched It,then its not upon you. Up don't get immediately punished becuase God Is fair.

 

[yazub]

Happiness can be valuable irregardless.

those who do not know pain will never understand true peace

 

[tchiki brr]

those who do not know pain will never understand true peace

Pain

 

[Angel]

do you unconditionally love anyone?

yes

if you do would you still if they killed your parents

which one

 

[Xmbreon]

i think it does through family because my mom would probably murder someone for me

i'd murder someone for her

i love her

but through strangers is debatable

Only from ur family
Also holy cringe

 

[tchiki brr]

Only from ur family
Also holy cringe

He just love his mom noting cringe n***a