Discussion How can men complain about hypergamy

[rand anon]

A lot of non western cultures lack hypergamy, particularly because of the structures that keep it in check



Religion, politics, family values, etc

Ig, not rly anymore though, most cultures are getting the globohomo treatment nowadays

 

[TFC]

I never said hypergamy didn’t exist

I was just making a point in the amount of men that complain about it considering the large amount of women that willingly deal with trash tier men

"large amount" of men complaining DOES NOT EQUAL "large amount" of girls willing to date looks match

if the 2 groups where the same size we wouldn't have a problem but they aren't so we do




dumb foid

 

[Zeta&clavmogger]

Unnecessary search = small amount of water waste

If AI LLMs over at wherever, chatgpt, grok whatever constantly use water to cool their servers 2/7 wouldn't it be more of a waste to not use it? You're acting like the water that's used to cool AI models fucking disappears from earth

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

look there are real hard evidence stats to prove hypergamy, every guy here has hid direct personal evidence of this. saying it doesn't exist is a slap in the face and retarded, pointing out exceptions does not weaken the fact of hypergamy and it certainly doesn't disprove it.

if your a foid try and get a looks match and statistically it will be outrageously easy for you to do.
for a guy it will be extremely hard and if he is average it will be statistically improbable for him to get a average girl

There is ONE situation in which hypergamy is weaker, and its when you are introduced through a friend (not really backed by any data tbh, just my personal experience)



But since the majority of relationships happen through online dating:

Keep in mind, almost all the ones which say "bar" happened because of couples who met through an online dating app, and went to a bar as their first date. (which is why you should always make sure the methodologies of studies like this one are logically sound)

This is an EASY 70 percent of relationships started by online dating, btw



Then when you account for the fact that men outnumber women 3x-4x on these apps,

(Brutal for indians btw)


It is easy to see how hypergamy will affect modern dating.

Since men outnumber women severely on average, you are going to experience women dating up (simply because they have higher leverage and more demand)



Denying hypergamy is just dumb, and does not fit reality

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

If AI LLMs over at wherever, chatgpt, grok whatever constantly use water to cool their servers 2/7 wouldn't it be more of a waste to not use it? You're acting like the water that's used to cool AI models fucking disappears from earth

Fo watch Hank greens video on it, very insightful

 

[TFC]

There is ONE situation in which hypergamy is weaker, and its when you are introduced through a friend (not really backed by any data tbh, just my personal experience)



But since the majority of relationships happen through online dating:

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Keep in mind, almost all the ones which say "bar" happened because of couples who met through an online dating app, and went to a bar as their first date. (which is why you should always make sure the methodologies of studies like this one are logically sound)

This is an EASY 70 percent of relationships started by online dating, btw



Then when you account for the fact that men outnumber women 3x-4x on these apps,

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(Brutal for indians btw)


It is easy to see how hypergamy will affect modern dating.

Since men outnumber women severely on average, you are going to experience women dating up (simply because they have higher leverage and more demand)



Denying hypergamy is just dumb, and does not fit reality

straight shot good evidence good points, high IQ I can already tell

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

There is ONE situation in which hypergamy is weaker, and its when you are introduced through a friend (not really backed by any data tbh, just my personal experience)



But since the majority of relationships happen through online dating:

View attachment 331277
Keep in mind, almost all the ones which say "bar" happened because of couples who met through an online dating app, and went to a bar as their first date. (which is why you should always make sure the methodologies of studies like this one are logically sound)

This is an EASY 70 percent of relationships started by online dating, btw



Then when you account for the fact that men outnumber women 3x-4x on these apps,

View attachment 331282

(Brutal for indians btw)


It is easy to see how hypergamy will affect modern dating.

Since men outnumber women severely on average, you are going to experience women dating up (simply because they have higher leverage and more demand)



Denying hypergamy is just dumb, and does not fit reality

This really isn’t a good argument because if almost all couples meet online but men outnumber the women to such a high level that would imply that none of those other women get into relationships and that just doesn’t make any sense. What was the sample size for the first study?

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

straight shot good evidence good points, high IQ I can already tell

this is just water for anyone with basic intellectual honesty

 

[Zeta&clavmogger]

Fo watch Hank greens video on it, very insightful

I just don't understand what you're saying g, if the LLMs start with let's say a pool full of water, that water will evaporate, condensation turns it back into water and you never actually waste water, its basic knowledge that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, I'm saying if AI models are using water 24/7 wouldn't it be more of a waste if less people use it?

 

[benny]

If AI LLMs over at wherever, chatgpt, grok whatever constantly use water to cool their servers 2/7 wouldn't it be more of a waste to not use it? You're acting like the water that's used to cool AI models fucking disappears from earth

bro i thought u were banned wtf

 

[NoIamHuman]

"large amount" of men complaining DOES NOT EQUAL "large amount" of girls willing to date looks match

if the 2 groups where the same size we wouldn't have a problem but they aren't so we do




dumb foid

There’s plenty of trash degenerate women to be with

 

[Zeta&clavmogger]

bro i thought u were banned wtf

I got banned 2 times in 24 hours jfl

 

[TFC]

I just don't understand what you're saying g, if the LLMs start with let's say a pool full of water, that water will evaporate, condensation turns it back into water and you never actually waste water, its basic knowledge that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, I'm saying if AI models are using water 24/7 wouldn't it be more of a waste if less people use it?

welcome back big dog

 

[TFC]

There’s plenty of trash degenerate women to be with

not my looksmaxx trust me im looking for a mid to high LTB (cant be fat excludes most of the foids)

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

I just don't understand what you're saying g, if the LLMs start with let's say a pool full of water, that water will evaporate, condensation turns it back into water and you never actually waste water, its basic knowledge that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, I'm saying if AI models are using water 24/7 wouldn't it be more of a waste if less people use it?

That takes an incredible large amount of time. They use it to cool them yes but also to create the chips and such and that water will be unusable for a very long time. There are many places in the world where drinking water is already short and they need a certain amount of purity in the water to create and power the ai so they have to use that stuff Hank explains it better than j can

 

[NoIamHuman]

not my looksmaxx trust me im looking for a mid to high LTB

Beggars can’t be choosers

 

[TFC]

Beggars can’t be choosers

yes the fuck I can, watch me

 

[NoIamHuman]

yes the fuck I can, watch me

So stop complaining about hypergamy then

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

This really isn’t a good argument because if almost all couples meet online but men outnumber the women to such a high level that would imply that none of those other women get into relationships and that just doesn’t make any sense. What was the sample size for the first study?

I'm not trying to defend the implications of such results, just pointing out the facts they lead to. I believe the sample study was about 5k people

 

[rand anon]

hypergamy is the natural order
men are not entitled to offspring or a wife and they dont like that
so they whine all day long instead of actually becoming a better person

Oh come on, u must surely agree that we’re seeing new levels of hypergamy. Back in the day it was enough to be financially stable as a guy and just be neat and put together lookswise. The hypergamy of this generation is insane

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

I'm not trying to defend the implications of such results, just pointing out the facts they lead to. I believe the sample study was about 5k people

At least in the us there is around 100 women per 98 men those results just don’t make any sense

 

[NoIamHuman]

Oh come on, u must surely agree that we’re seeing new levels of hypergamy. Back in the day it was enough to be financially stable as a guy and just be neat and put together lookswise. The hypergamy of this generation is insane

That’s because women had less options and watched the women in their family deal with shit men

 

[TFC]

So stop complaining about hypergamy then

I dont like my goverment
I like living in my countries
I won't move
I dont like my politicians

all of these can be true at the same time
I can both not like the reality of the situation and still hold standards
I know this is a tough concept for you to understand because your a foid but I want fair and equal love with a healthy girl (not fat)
and that is much harder for me to find because of hypergamy so I'm upset

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

At least in the us there is around 100 women per 98 men those results just don’t make any sense

tbf yeah they are contrary to common sense, but we shouldn't dismiss it solely because of that


we (by we i mean society as a whole) would be better off creating a system to explain these oddities rather than just denying them

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

tbf yeah they are contrary to common sense, but we shouldn't dismiss it solely because of that


we (by we i mean society as a whole) would be better off creating a system to explain these oddities rather than just denying them

I mean I agree but like I said it would be extremely hard to create an unbiased study especially if it has anything to do with looks

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

I mean I agree but like I said it would be extremely hard to create an unbiased study especially if it has anything to do with looks

but the original studies i showed had nothing to do with looks, they just showed patterns in modern heterosexual dating


i just used those studies to show that it logically follows that hypergamy heavily affects modern dating

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

but the original studies i showed had nothing to do with looks, they just showed patterns in modern heterosexual dating


i just used those studies to show that it logically follows that hypergamy heavily affects modern dating

Ya but hypergamy in humans takes looks into account along with status and finances and whatever. I think you would have to include that in the study if you wanted to encapsulate the entire definition

 

[chudlite67]

Oh come on, u must surely agree that we’re seeing new levels of hypergamy. Back in the day it was enough to be financially stable as a guy and just be neat and put together lookswise. The hypergamy of this generation is insane

i didnt deny hypergamy
i said its natural
these days women have the means to support themselves financially, i suppose this has resulted in higher standards for men but this also gives women the ability to marry for love rather than stability
im sure the studies say hypergamy is in full swing but theres exceptions to every rule and i know there is a lot of women out there that do not care for it
not sure what else to say tbh

 

[rand anon]

That’s because women had less options and watched the women in their family deal with shit men

I’d say that’s mostly true for like the early 20th century. First wave feminism rly got rid of most of those issues. IMO the best time to be around for dating as a guy was prob from the 80s to 2000. Hypergamy got rly bad after 3rd wave feminism

 

[Zeta&clavmogger]

There’s because the amount of attractive women is much larger than the amount of attractive men

If women didn't wear makeup itd be much more equal than you'd think lol

 

[Deleted Member 118059]

Ya but hypergamy in humans takes looks into account along with status and finances and whatever. I think you would have to include that in the study if you wanted to encapsulate the entire definition

fair, im too lazy to make a formalized argument in replies

 

[Deleted Member 111657]

fair, im too lazy to make a formalized argument in replies

Victory!!

 

[rand anon]

i didnt deny hypergamy
i said its natural

I didn’t say u denied it

these days women have the means to support themselves financially, i suppose this has resulted in higher standards for men but this also gives women the ability to marry for love rather than stability

What I’m saying is that the standards for men rn are absurdly high

im sure the studies say hypergamy is in full swing but theres exceptions to every rule and i know there is a lot of women out there that do not care for it
not sure what else to say tbh

Ofc there are exceptions, there will always be exceptions to anything. Yeah idk what else to say either lol, I just think the problem is worse than u make it out to be. Morgan Stanley predicted that like nearly 50% of adult aged women will be single. U think these women will be happy? It’s human nature to procreate and pair bond, everyone’s gonna be miserable lol

 

[NoIamHuman]

I’d say that’s mostly true for like the early 20th century. First wave feminism rly got rid of most of those issues. IMO the best time to be around for dating as a guy was prob from the 80s to 2000. Hypergamy got rly bad after 3rd wave feminism

You have no idea what you’re talking about

 

[NoIamHuman]

If women didn't wear makeup itd be much more equal than you'd think lol

The average woman looks better than the average man

 

[rand anon]

You have no idea what you’re talking about

Elab

 

[NoIamHuman]

Elab

You clearly don’t get what it means to be a woman bruh

 

[Zeta&clavmogger]

The average woman looks better than the average man

the average woman Is hltb and the average man Is hltn what are you even saying jfl

 

[Zeta&clavmogger]

You clearly don’t get what it means to be a woman bruh

And you don't get what it means to be a man jfl, shitty argument

 

[chudlite67]

I didn’t say u denied it

Oh ok I thought you did

What I’m saying is that the standards for men rn are absurdly high

Mine aren’t

Ofc there are exceptions, there will always be exceptions to anything. Yeah idk what else to say either lol, I just think the problem is worse than u make it out to be. Morgan Stanley predicted that like nearly 50% of adult aged women will be single. U think these women will be happy? It’s human nature to procreate and pair bond, everyone’s gonna be miserable lol

You’re forgetting that at LEAST 50% of the dating pool (including men and women) is trash. I mean do you really wanna end up with a woman that superficial anyway?
My original point was while it is human nature to procreate, nobody is entitled to do so
Hypergamy is like modern day natural selection

 

[rand anon]

Oh ok I thought you did

Mine aren’t

U aren’t representative of the majority of women my dear friend

You’re forgetting that at LEAST 50% of the dating pool (including men and women) is trash. I mean do you really wanna end up with a woman that superficial anyway?

Depends on what her other qualities are. Also I never understood that argument. If I met her standards it’s not like I’d ever notice that she’s superficial, unless she shows it in other ways outside of dating, in which case I def wouldn’t

My original point was while it is human nature to procreate, nobody is entitled to do so
Hypergamy is like modern day natural selection

I also never get why this point is brought up either. Sure you aren’t entitled to it, no one is entitled to anything though, not sure who’s arguing against that. Just because u aren’t entitled to something doesn’t mean u don’t deserve it though

 

[Galvatron]

Women = slut

 

[NoIamHuman]

And you don't get what it means to be a man jfl, shitty argument

I never claimed I did loser

 

[NoIamHuman]

The lot on here lack so much irl experience with humanity they think talking about issues in an analytical way with statistics they found from a link on Wikipedia is the “right” way

JFL