How to fade acne marks

[iletheile]

Like after it's popped it remains a dark spot or red yeah what to do about that, I'm 15 btw

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

never pop acne in the first place
put a pimple patch over it
let it pop on its own after a hot shower

to reduce appearance retinol serum + microneedling

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

Tret everything else is cope please don't waste your time

 

[iletheile]

never pop acne in the first place
put a pimple patch over it
let it pop on its own after a hot shower

to reduce appearance retinol serum + microneedling

Yesyes ofc but it's js that I still do have acne marks from when I didn't know I wasn't supposed to pop it

 

[iletheile]

Tret everything else is cope please don't waste your time

HM I mean I do jav ELIKE very sensitive skin tho and I've seen many people saying it ruined their skin so idk

 

[iletheile]

never pop acne in the first place
put a pimple patch over it
let it pop on its own after a hot shower

to reduce appearance retinol serum + microneedling

I mean what if I have sensitive skin tho

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

I mean what if I have sensitive skin tho

you can still use retinol on sensitive skin
but you should focus on reducing sugar/sodium intake first

 

[Pearex]

Like after it's popped it remains a dark spot or red yeah what to do about that, I'm 15 btw

You should never squeeze your pimples and you must use sunscreen to protect yourself from the sun, which can trigger the formation of blemishes additionally, you can use vitamin c and vitamin B3

 

[Pearex]

Tret everything else is cope please don't waste your time

Tret are heavy ingredients and their uncontrolled use can leave permanent damage on the skin of a 15 yo trying to buy time by disrupting the skin barrier will only prolong the process. The safest approach is to get approval from a dermatologist

 

[iletheile]

you can still use retinol on sensitive skin
but you should focus on reducing sugar/sodium intake first

Hm but isn't like retinal or bakuchiol better , if not then maybe I can js do a chemical peel

 

[Pearex]

retinal

It's a slightly stronger version of retinol. It causes very severe peeling and sensitivity in the fresh skin of a 15 yo

bakuchiol

Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's harmless there's always a risk of allergic reactions, especially on young skin

chemical peel

Failure to regulate acid balance leads to chemical burns

Instead of seeking advice from a forum, why not consult a dermatologist? It would be best to make an appointment with a specialist before using your own skin as a testing ground

 

[Ghoultune]

never pop acne in the first place
put a pimple patch over it
let it pop on its own after a hot shower

to reduce appearance retinol serum + microneedling

What if one pops while i am washing my face does that count as bad

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

What if one pops while i am washing my face does that count as bad

No if it’s like a white head and you didn’t squeeze that shi

 

[Mason Kewish]

Have you tried Retinol?

 

[iletheile]

It's a slightly stronger version of retinol. It causes very severe peeling and sensitivity in the fresh skin of a 15 yo


Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's harmless there's always a risk of allergic reactions, especially on young skin


Failure to regulate acid balance leads to chemical burns

Instead of seeking advice from a forum, why not consult a dermatologist? It would be best to make an appointment with a specialist before using your own skin as a testing ground

Not enough money to go to a dermatologist

 

[iletheile]

Have you tried Retinol?

Nope!

 

[iletheile]

It's a slightly stronger version of retinol. It causes very severe peeling and sensitivity in the fresh skin of a 15 yo


Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's harmless there's always a risk of allergic reactions, especially on young skin


Failure to regulate acid balance leads to chemical burns

Instead of seeking advice from a forum, why not consult a dermatologist? It would be best to make an appointment with a specialist before using your own skin as a testing ground

Plus I genuinely thought that retinol was stronger than retinal

 

[TonyDr]

Tret everything else is cope please don't waste your time

Like after it's popped it remains a dark spot or red yeah what to do about that, I'm 15 btw

OTC version is retinol (weaker form of Tret) and also not mentionned enough, you apply retinol before bed and the next morning you apply sunscreen even if we're in winter even if you're under synthetic light 24/7, or the dark spots can increase.

Vit-A topical derivatives increases skin sensitivity to any type of light

 

[TonyDr]

Hm but isn't like retinal or bakuchiol better , if not then maybe I can js do a chemical peel

Not in your case it's just acne marks, it shouldn't be applied on fresh acne spot anyways.

Bakuchiol is in theory weaker than retinol but it's fairly new topical so i wouldn't recommend it as we don't know real long term results

Retinal (or Retin-A) is the best absorbed retinoid form by the skin but it's used for age rejuvenation, not for acne spots of a young girl.

Stick to OTC retinol, you prob don't need Adapalene nor Tretinoin rn

 

[Pearex]

Not enough money to go to a dermatologist

I understand you, even the cheapest sunscreen you have is more effective than the most expensive spot treatment. Preventing a spot from darkening is easier than trying to get rid of it

 

[Pearex]

Plus I genuinely thought that retinol was stronger than retinal

Actually, it's the opposite retinal is a much more powerful and faster acting ingredient than retinol

 

[iletheile]

I understand you, even the cheapest sunscreen you have is more effective than the most expensive spot treatment. Preventing a spot from darkening is easier than trying to get rid of it

So I should get like a retinol serum or something like that well what would you raccomend (whoops meant to quote you too mb @TonyDr )

 

[Pearex]

Not in your case it's just acne marks, it shouldn't be applied on fresh acne spot anyways.

Bakuchiol is in theory weaker than retinol but it's fairly new topical so i wouldn't recommend it as we don't know real long term results

Retinal (or Retin-A) is the best absorbed retinoid form by the skin but it's used for age rejuvenation, not for acne spots of a young girl.

Stick to OTC retinol, you prob don't need Adapalene nor Tretinoin rn

Even over the counter retinols should be used cautiously on the skin of a 15 yo If you choose this path, as the moderator warned, you should never neglect sunscreen and should start with the lowest concentrations to avoid irritating your skin. However, if possible, going through this process under the supervision of a dermatologist will be the most reliable way to protect your skin's future
@iletheile

 

[Pearex]

@iletheile
If possible, dermatology departments in state hospitals offer services free of charge or with a very small fee for this age group. If you try to make an appointment, you can at least access prescription creams from a specialist at affordable prices. Don't incur greater expenses by performing harsh procedures on your skin without the means those marks will fade over time and with sun protection

 

[Pearex]

So I should get like a retinol serum or something like that well what would you raccomend (whoops meant to quote you too mb @TonyDr )

Niacinamide effective in lightening blemishes, does not irritate the skin, and strengthens its barrier

Azelaic acid a much safer ingredient than retinol, and one that dermatologists most often recommend to young people for acne scars

Cica (centella) creams best for repairing that fresh redness after popping a pimple

Whichever product you choose, test it on a small area behind your ear or on your neck before applying it to your entire face. If there is no redness or itching within 24 hours, you can apply it to your whole face

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

Tret are heavy ingredients and their uncontrolled use can leave permanent damage on the skin of a 15 yo trying to buy time by disrupting the skin barrier will only prolong the process. The safest approach is to get approval from a dermatologist

Those who don't know I have a guide dedicated to skincare in must reads

 

[snoopy12]

Like after it's popped it remains a dark spot or red yeah what to do about that, I'm 15 btw

glycolic acid
dr althea 345 barrier cream

 

[Pearex]

Those who don't know I have a guide dedicated to skincare in must reads

Ultimately neither you nor I are doctors. Instead of encouraging a 15 yo to experiment with such potent ingredients on their skin, referring them directly to a dermatologist would be the most responsible and appropriate approach. No matter how comprehensive personal guides are, they cannot replace a medical diagnosis and expert consultation. If I've said anything incorrect, please provide scientific evidence so I can learn

 

[ocularies]

Tretinoin & Amlactin will fix acne + hyperpigmentation

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

Ultimately neither you nor I are doctors. Instead of encouraging a 15 yo to experiment with such potent ingredients on their skin, referring them directly to a dermatologist would be the most responsible and appropriate approach. No matter how comprehensive personal guides are, they cannot replace a medical diagnosis and expert consultation. If I've said anything incorrect, please provide scientific evidence so I can learn

Big skincare is a scam I've made many threads on this before. I used retinol to clear my skin at 14 (and completley cleared my skin from  severe acne) and at 16 went on tretinoin (for the exact same reason as op btw). No prescription because as long as you do your research you will be fine. Stop fear mongering. Dermotoligists really dont know what theyre doing and will avoid prescribing you what is needed

Jfl at thinking you need a dermotoligist for retinol (over the counter accessible btw) or tretinoin

 

[Pearex]

Big skincare is a scam I've made many threads on this before. I used retinol to clear my skin at 14 (and completley cleared my skin from  severe acne) and at 16 went on tretinoin (for the exact same reason as op btw). No prescription because as long as you do your research you will be fine. Stop fear mongering. Dermotoligists really dont know what theyre doing and will avoid prescribing you what is needed

Jfl at thinking you need a dermotoligist for retinol (over the counter accessible btw) or tretinoin

It's gratifying that your own experience had a positive outcome, but a generalization like Dermatologists don't know what they're doing doesn't align with medical facts. There are thousands of cases of permanent skin thinning, chronic rosacea, or severe chemical burns resulting from the uncontrolled use of tretinoin and high dose retinoids not all skin has the same genetic and biological tolerance, therefore medical intervention is individual and requires expertise
@Marlonmogsyouhaha

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

There are thousands of cases of permanent skin thinning,

The exact opposite is the case jfl. If anyone's skin has "thinned" due to retinol or tretinoin it's because of other factors

 

[Pearex]

The exact opposite is the case jfl. If anyone's skin has "thinned" due to retinol or tretinoin it's because of other factors

I understand. Could you please share peer reviewed scientific articles that support your claim that this situation is caused by other factors?
Since your personal experiences are at the bottom of the level of evidence hierarchy, it would be appropriate for you to provide scientific sources for such a challenging topic

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

I understand. Could you please share peer reviewed scientific articles that support your claim that this situation is caused by other factors?

The evidence is that tretinoin thickens the skin. If anyone were to use tretinoin and thin the skin its either other factors or incorrect use

 

[Pearex]

The evidence is that tretinoin thickens the skin. If anyone were to use tretinoin and thin the skin its either other factors or incorrect use

It is true that tretinoin thickens the dermis in the long term, but the rapid shedding and temporary thinning it causes in the stratum corneum at the beginning of this process leaves the barrier function vulnerable. The risk you refer to as misuse lies precisely here

other factors

What exactly are these 'other factors' that you claim mask tretinoin induced barrier damage and sensitivity? While the medical literature directly links retinoid induced retinoid dermatitis and barrier disruption to the drug's mechanism, to which external factors do you attribute these side effects?

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

It is true that tretinoin thickens the dermis in the long term, but the rapid shedding and temporary thinning it causes in the stratum corneum at the beginning of this process leaves the barrier function vulnerable. The risk you refer to as misuse lies precisely here

What exactly are these 'other factors' that you claim mask tretinoin induced barrier damage and sensitivity? While the medical literature directly links retinoid induced retinoid dermatitis and barrier disruption to the drug's mechanism, to which external factors do you attribute these side effects?

I fucking said that if you're using it incorrectly it could happen, which these people are clearly doing by not building up tolerance and jumping to consistant use immediately

 

[Pearex]

I fucking said that if you're using it incorrectly it could happen, which these people are clearly doing by not building up tolerance and jumping to consistant use immediately

Yea that's exactly the point I want to make the risks of misuse and failure to adjust the tolerance threshold. For a 15 yo to try to discover their own skin's biological tolerance without expert help is a dangerous trial process. That's exactly why a dermatologist is necessary

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

Yea that's exactly the point I want to make the risks of misuse and failure to adjust the tolerance threshold.

Yes they should look into how to correctly use any product I say this in my guide but I don't think I should have to mention it every thread because people should have some common sense. I don't have to hold people's hands 24/7.

For a 15 yo to try to discover their own skin's biological tolerance without expert help is a dangerous trial process. That's exactly why a dermatologist is necessary

What the fuck will a dermotoligist do? Genuinely. If they're that worried they can just use retinol which like I said is over the counter. However, if they have severe or a large amount of scars they should use tretinoin

 

[Pearex]

Yes they should look into how to correctly use any product I say this in my guide but I don't think I should have to mention it every thread because people should have some common sense. I don't have to hold people's hands 24/7.

When the price of misuse is permanent skin damage to that young person, saying if only they had been sensible doesn't offer a solution. That's why the medical world manages these substances not with guidelines, but with dermatologist supervision and prescriptions

What the fuck will a dermotoligist do? Genuinely.

By saying "What can a dermatologist do anyway?" you are completely disregarding the 6 years of medical education and the 4 year residency process. Comparing a doctor's years of clinical experience to a personal internet search is not only irresponsible but also dangerous

If they're that worried they can just use retinol which like I said is over the counter. However, if they have severe or a large amount of scars they should use tretinoin

Prescribing a treatment protocol for a 15 yo by saying they need to use tretinoin for severe scarring is exceeding medical authority. Depending on the type of scar (atrophic hypertrophic etc.) sometimes tretinoin is ineffective and clinical interventions such as laser or subvision are required

 

[Marlonmogsyouhaha]

When the price of misuse is permanent skin damage to that young person, saying if only they had been sensible doesn't offer a solution. That's why the medical world manages these substances not with guidelines, but with dermatologist supervision and prescriptions


By saying "What can a dermatologist do anyway?" you are completely disregarding the 6 years of medical education and the 4 year residency process. Comparing a doctor's years of clinical experience to a personal internet search is not only irresponsible but also dangerous


Prescribing a treatment protocol for a 15 yo by saying 'they need to use tretinoin' for severe scarring is exceeding medical authority. Depending on the type of scar (atrophic hypertrophic etc.) sometimes tretinoin is ineffective and clinical interventions such as laser or subvision are required

You don't know what you're talking about and are just appealing to authority jfl.

 

[Pearex]

You don't know what you're talking about and are just appealing to authority jfl.

Your characterization of medical and specialist training as a fallacy of appealing to authority clearly summarizes your perspective on the scientific method

 

[TonyDr]

well what would you raccomend (whoops meant to quote you too mb @TonyDr )

CeraVe retinol seems to be a staple in skincare, alongside having a zinc-oxide based sunscreen if possible

Whichever product you choose, test it on a small area behind your ear or on your neck before applying it to your entire face. If there is no redness or itching within 24 hours, you can apply it to your whole face

Actually it will be better to test on your arm if you don't know how your body will react

Jfl at thinking you need a dermotoligist for retinol (over the counter accessible btw) or tretinoin

In multiple countries Tretinoin & Adapalene are only prescribed by dermatologists so hard to find if you don't put your nose in roids markets.
In her case she should just start with low dose low amount of retinol, sunscreen and be patient.
She will see later if she gets improvements or needs something stronger

 

[Pearex]

Actually it will be better to test on your arm if you don't know how your body will react

I had included the area behind the ear or the neck specifically to assess the potential for irritation, as it's a tissue closer to the facial skin. However, the safest protocol would be to test it first on the arm, then on a small area of the face thank you for your warning

 

[iletheile]

CeraVe retinol seems to be a staple in skincare, alongside having a zinc-oxide based sunscreen if possible

Actually it will be better to test on your arm if you don't know how your body will react

In multiple countries Tretinoin & Adapalene are only prescribed by dermatologists so hard to find if you don't put your nose in roids markets.
In her case she should just start with low dose low amount of retinol, sunscreen and be patient.
She will see later if she gets improvements or needs something stronger

HM okok! But like, so should I wait till every single acne bla bla clears out? And then as last thing starting to use it? Plus idk about cerave cause cerave made me break out

 

[TonyDr]

HM okok! But like, so should I wait till every single acne bla bla clears out?

Yeah don't use it on fresh acne

Plus idk about cerave cause cerave made me break out

There prob other brands that you can try