is bimax the only hope for me? or can a genio/lower jaw be passable?

[comptax]

my recession/lack of forward growth is brutal and keeps me hardstuck ltb

i’ve had some people say they think a genio (and maybe rhino and undereye fat transfer) could do enough to reach mtb even if djs would be better, thoughts? or is a djs/bimax the only route

is there any reality where i can hit htb, surgery included obvi?

 

[Blackpillirony]

my recession/lack of forward growth is brutal and keeps me hardstuck ltb

i’ve had some people say they think a genio (and maybe rhino and undereye fat transfer) could do enough to reach mtb even if djs would be better, thoughts? or is a djs/bimax the only route

is there any reality where i can hit htb, surgery included obvi?

Genio and fat grafts would help

 

[comptax]

Genio and fat grafts would help

very subjective question ik but do u think they’d be worth the price in terms of results? enough for reaching mtb?

 

[Blackpillirony]

very subjective question ik but do u think they’d be worth the price in terms of results? enough for reaching mtb?

It all depends on your values and goals, I shouldn't be the one to encourage or discourage you to get surgery, I am just answering questions

 

[comptax]

It all depends on your values and goals, I shouldn't be the one to encourage or discourage you to get surgery, I am just answering questions

fair enough

 

[comptax]

bump guys please help me i wanna know

 

[Duchess]

my recession/lack of forward growth is brutal and keeps me hardstuck ltb

i’ve had some people say they think a genio (and maybe rhino and undereye fat transfer) could do enough to reach mtb even if djs would be better, thoughts? or is a djs/bimax the only route

is there any reality where i can hit htb, surgery included obvi?

Actually from seeing the way u close ur lips I HIGHLY SUSPECT lip incompetence which is what I had so I think BSSO and Genio would help, maybe impaction but that's hard to clock since your nose looks nice. My lips looked the same from the side before I had surgery. PLS go to a dentist and say you want a referral to a maxillofacial surgeon. If he says 'no i dont see anything wrong' say it's because you want a genioplasty. Then the maxillo will evaluate anyways. That is the strat that worked for me and another girl to get a ref.

 

[mutilation]

Changing your hairstyle would make more of a difference than some surgery you can't afford now

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

mew + aqualyx

 

[comptax]

Actually from seeing the way u close ur lips I HIGHLY SUSPECT lip incompetence which is what I had so I think BSSO and Genio would help, maybe impaction but that's hard to clock since your nose looks nice. My lips looked the same from the side before I had surgery. PLS go to a dentist and say you want a referral to a maxillofacial surgeon. If he says 'no i dont see anything wrong' say it's because you want a genioplasty. Then the maxillo will evaluate anyways. That is the strat that worked for me and another girl to get a ref.

what does lip incompetence mean? like mouth not fully closing naturally or something? my lips close but i def do have a bit of an overbite, and rarely i catch my teeth not touching in my mouth even tho my lips r closed so that could be true

ill do that soon, thank you! is it rlly ok to trust whatever random surgeon i’m referred to tho?

 

[comptax]

Changing your hairstyle would make more of a difference than some surgery you can't afford now

my hairstyle is good for my face shape, a lot of these pics r with it unstyled and are just for showing side profile

 

[comptax]

mew + aqualyx

already mew but will look into aqualyx

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

already mew but will look into aqualyx

nah you just gotta debloat
aqualyx is an option if you know where to pin cus you can easily hit a nerve or do it unevenly if you dont map it out

 

[comptax]

nah you just gotta debloat
aqualyx is an option if you know where to pin cus you can easily hit a nerve or do it unevenly if you dont map it out

debloating is not gonna shift my mandible forward, i’d benefit from less fat held in my face but it’s 99% a skeletal issue

 

[HeavyMetalGoth]

debloating is not gonna shift my mandible forward, i’d benefit from less fat held in my face but it’s 99% a skeletal issue

its not that bad + you're a foid so you dont need a manly gonial angle

 

[comptax]

its not that bad + you're a foid so you dont need a manly gonial angle

jaw is still important for women, makes an aesthetic face that also looks good in motion/any angle even if it’s not doubling as a dimo indicator like it does for men

 

[Pearex]

my recession/lack of forward growth is brutal and keeps me hardstuck ltb

i’ve had some people say they think a genio (and maybe rhino and undereye fat transfer) could do enough to reach mtb even if djs would be better, thoughts? or is a djs/bimax the only route

is there any reality where i can hit htb, surgery included obvi?

With a genioplasty and a subtle under eye touch up it seems possible to achieve those sharp facial features you desire in a way that has a much shorter recovery period. The bone structure in your face is already strong. The risks of a major surgery (nerve damage, long recovery, etc.) may not be worth the small difference you would gain.

 

[comptax]

With a genioplasty and a subtle under eye touch up it seems possible to achieve those sharp facial features you desire in a way that has a much shorter recovery period. The bone structure in your face is already strong. The risks of a major surgery (nerve damage, long recovery, etc.) may not be worth the small difference you would gain.

thanks for the advice, i would def rather be able to achieve results with less invasive procedures versus something like djs. appreciate it

 

[Pearex]

thanks for the advice, i would def rather be able to achieve results with less invasive procedures versus something like djs. appreciate it

This decision is both realistic and quite sensible from a health perspective.

 

[Duchess]

what does lip incompetence mean? like mouth not fully closing naturally or something? my lips close but i def do have a bit of an overbite, and rarely i catch my teeth not touching in my mouth even tho my lips r closed so that could be true

ill do that soon, thank you! is it rlly ok to trust whatever random surgeon i’m referred to tho?

it's when your lips don't naturally close properly, it's noticeable when the lower lip seems thinner than the upper.

I was referred to a good surgeon, the one she referred me too had aesthetics training. Maxillofacial surgeon is a really hard degree to get so I would trust most of them as long as there is no lawsuit or bad review online.

 

[spreading love]

my recession/lack of forward growth is brutal and keeps me hardstuck ltb

i’ve had some people say they think a genio (and maybe rhino and undereye fat transfer) could do enough to reach mtb even if djs would be better, thoughts? or is a djs/bimax the only route

is there any reality where i can hit htb, surgery included obvi?

Yea everything said there was accurate

 

[comptax]

it's when your lips don't naturally close properly, it's noticeable when the lower lip seems thinner than the upper.

I was referred to a good surgeon, the one she referred me too had aesthetics training. Maxillofacial surgeon is a really hard degree to get so I would trust most of them as long as there is no lawsuit or bad review online.

thanks!