Jaw > Hair > Eye Area

[Marlo]

I used to think eye area was the main factor when it came to looks, but now I’m starting to lean towards “jaw is law”.

Your jaw is the only thing that can save you from the ultimate looksmin: hair loss. Yes, I know some guys look fine with receding hairlines, but it’s because they have good jawlines.

Cavill:

He doesn’t have an “ideal eye area” and he’s NW 2.5 in this picture (approaching 3). Why does he still look good? Jaw. His jaw width, even with a receding hairline, is wider than his forehead. If your jaw is wider than your temple points, you can probably get away with some hair loss.

now let’s look at someone who’s hair loss brought him down a point or two.

guess who....

Chico:

from ideal....

To not so ideal.... (I know the buzz cut is bad, but the main problem is his temporal point loss)

When his temporal points stopped being even with
His jaw, he started to descend. His .1 percentile eye area couldn’t redeem the loss of his temporal points.

Plenty of other examples out there, but this gives a quick visualization.

 

[Rkelly]

you can always make an argument for one being > than the the other.... why not strive to have it all

also different situation will favor one over the other

For example: hot sunny day outside pre-corona and you have shit eye area but a solid lower third you can just wear sunglasses and appear to be chad in that moment
But say it is indoors during corona time he will have to wear mask (covering his solid lower third) but will have his shit eye area exposed making him look more incel at that moment.

 

[89FuglyNiyguhs]

I made a thread a while back, but having robust facial bones and a great eye area are what matters most.

Tom Brady and Brad Pitt both prove that aging via bones is superior. Can't find the pitt picture, but here's Brady.

Even at his worst where his face is puffy, he still looks very above average. He also didn't age at all throughout 20 years. Pretty much proof if your bones and eye area are solid you'll look good your entire life. It's entirely what separates a real chad from pretty boys.A real Chad's have naturally robust and masculine facial structures that make them age well, chico doesn't. He's extremely androgynous which is disadvantagous and why most pretty boys have a shelf life of 2-5 years.

 

[Marlo]

I made a thread a while back, but having robust facial bones and a great eye area are what matters most.

Tom Brady and Brad Pitt both prove that aging via bones is superior. Can't find the pitt picture, but here's Brady.

Even at his worst where his face is puffy, he still looks very above average. He also didn't age at all throughout 20 years. Pretty much proof if your bones and eye area are solid you'll look good your entire life. It's entirely what separates a real chad from pretty boys.A real Chad's have naturally robust and masculine facial structures that make them age well, chico doesn't. He's extremely androgynous which is disadvantagous and why most pretty boys have a shelf life of 2-5 years.

Chico confuses me. I personally don’t think he looks all that androgynous; he has some “pretty” features, but for a dude who probably didn’t lift weights all that much his neck is thick as fuck. To me, that’s a sign that he definitely had the hormonal makeup of a “masculine” dude. Also, his skull is huge. I think his hair killed him the most, then collagen loss. His bones would still look decent if he debloated I think. Looks like he has kids and a hot wife now so he won the game of life anyways

 

[Marlo]

you can always make an argument for one being > than the the other.... why not strive to have it all

also different situation will favor one over the other

For example: hot sunny day outside pre-corona and you have shit eye area but a solid lower third you can just wear sunglasses and appear to be chad in that moment
But say it is indoors during corona time he will have to wear mask (covering his solid lower third) but will have his shit eye area exposed making him look more incel at that moment.

Lmao I see what you’re saying, but assuming shit was normal again (no masks and shit).... jaw might beat out eye area. I’d personally rather have an extremely good eye area, but jaw seems to be the best feature to have more often than not.

 

[pizza-san]

this is the famous jaw is the law

 

[Marlo]

I made a thread a while back, but having robust facial bones and a great eye area are what matters most.

Tom Brady and Brad Pitt both prove that aging via bones is superior. Can't find the pitt picture, but here's Brady.

@Rkelly negative hooding strikes again

 

[Rkelly]

jaw might beat out eye area

yes in motion
because more volume and greater overall surface area

 

[Hououin Kyouma]

Lmao I see what you’re saying, but assuming shit was normal again (no masks and shit).... jaw might beat out eye area. I’d personally rather have an extremely good eye area, but jaw seems to be the best feature to have more often than not.

I think it matters depending on how bad/good your jaw or eye area is.

If you have a death tier eye area then no jaw in the world can save you but even if you have a terrible jaw area but amazing eye area you will be better off.

 

[Marlo]

I think it matters depending on how bad/good your jaw or eye area is.

If you have a death tier eye area then no jaw in the world can save you but even if you have a terrible jaw area but amazing eye area you will be better off.

Definitely agree. Jaw has its own advantages too though. I don’t think any eye area can really save you if your hair goes to shit, but a good jaw definitely can

 

[Marlo]

yes in motion
because more volume and greater overall surface area

I’m starting to question eye area as a whole. A really shitty eye area will fuck you up, but I’ve seen way too many girls find dudes with “shit” ones attractive:




Women obsess (or obsessed) over these dudes. I see round eyes.... nct.... even sclera. Hunter eyes are the biggest fucking meme of all time

 

[Hououin Kyouma]

I’m starting to question eye area as a whole. A really shitty eye area will fuck you up, but I’ve seen way too many girls find dudes with “shit” ones attractive:

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Women obsess (or obsessed) over these dudes. I see round eyes.... nct.... even sclera. Hunter eyes are the biggest fucking meme of all time

those aren't ugly to foids tho, women like these kinda eyes with other features. It kinda is like only good if you have nice harmony tho

 

[john]

Actually, hair and collagen are everything (provided that you aren't deformed).

And the reason for this is because every single normie in his 20s has this. You lose your hair and youth, you lose 90% of your appeal regardless of how good your bones are. Btw, your under eye support (which is as a result of your cheekbones and upper maxilla) matter more than having a good jaw.

 

[Hououin Kyouma]

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Actually, hair and collagen are everything (provided that you aren't deformed).

And the reason for this is because every single normie in his 20s has this. You lose your hair and youth, you lose 90% of your appeal regardless of how good your bones are. Btw, your under eye support (which is as a result of your cheekbones and upper maxilla) matter more than having a good jaw.

how do you get better collegen?

just supplementation? any specifics?

 

[john]

how do you get better collegen?

just supplementation? any specifics?

Eat eggs or apply them on your face. You can use anti-aging drugs like epitalon. Don't smoke, don't drink and don't live a stressful life.

 

[Marlo]

how do you get better collegen?

just supplementation? any specifics?

Tretinoin is a godsend

 

[Marlo]

Don't smoke, don't drink

Both are fine in moderation. If you have good genes, you can get away with using more

 

[Buddy Boyo]

As long as you dont have a petite fragile peanut skull like toth77 youre ok

 

[2020freedom]

I used to think eye area was the main factor when it came to looks, but now I’m starting to lean towards “jaw is law”.

Your jaw is the only thing that can save you from the ultimate looksmin: hair loss. Yes, I know some guys look fine with receding hairlines, but it’s because they have good jawlines.

Cavill:

View attachment 19548He doesn’t have an “ideal eye area” and he’s NW 2.5 in this picture (approaching 3). Why does he still look good? Jaw. His jaw width, even with a receding hairline, is wider than his forehead. If your jaw is wider than your temple points, you can probably get away with some hair loss.

now let’s look at someone who’s hair loss brought him down a point or two.

guess who....

Chico:

from ideal....View attachment 19549

To not so ideal.... (I know the buzz cut is bad, but the main problem is his temporal point loss)View attachment 19550

When his temporal points stopped being even with
His jaw, he started to descend. His .1 percentile eye area couldn’t redeem the loss of his temporal points.

Plenty of other examples out there, but this gives a quick visualization.

No.
Totally disagree.Eyes determine pheno, eyes are the window to the soul. Eye spacing frames a face and determines if one has harmony or not. And eyes can be changed very less surgically. Eyes are everything

 

[Marlo]

No.
Totally disagree.Eyes determine pheno, eyes are the window to the soul. Eye spacing frames a face and determines if one has harmony or not. And eyes can be changed very less surgically. Eyes are everything

Bad eye spacing is usually indicative of poor development overall. I dont completely disagree with you; if given the choice I’d take a 10/10 eye area over a 10/10 jaw, but there are way too many outliers to say that eyes are the single most important aspect of looks.

 

[Marlo]

No.
Totally disagree.Eyes determine pheno, eyes are the window to the soul. Eye spacing frames a face and determines if one has harmony or not. And eyes can be changed very less surgically. Eyes are everything

Just to add to this.... this dude is considered very attractive. He has great coloring, but his eye area isn’t great on an objective level; NCT, UEE, and somewhat narrow IPD. His lower third saves him... this guy is balding as well.

 

[Marlo]

As long as you dont have a petite fragile peanut skull like toth77 youre ok

When I’m being a dick I’m just taking the piss out of you, but dead serious... who the fuck is toth

 

[Hououin Kyouma]

When I’m being a dick I’m just taking the piss out of you, but dead serious... who the fuck is toth

@toth77

 

[ethnicsubhuman]

nah nose is more important because even normies are able to notice its flaws