Lowest inhib shit ive seen in my life

[genio]

And 90% of you n*****s will talk about some “no needles, all natural pls”
I’m not saying id go to the extremes of DIYing a fucking MARPE/MSE but some of you n*****s need to become even 10% as low inhib as this guy and start pinning shit

 

[ceeuonthetop]

And 90% of you n*****s will talk about some “no needles, all natural pls”
I’m not saying id go to the extremes of DIYing a fucking MARPE/MSE but some of you n*****s need to become even 10% as low inhib as this guy and start pinning shit

He's low iq + low inhib lmfao, his palate will look deformed if he goes through with this

 

[genio]

He's low iq + low inhib lmfao, his palate will look deformed if he goes through with this

Did you watch the video?
He literally installed it already and it looks perfectly fine

 

[ceeuonthetop]

Did you watch the video?
He literally installed it already and it looks perfectly fine

No, I didn't. I just assumed he'd fuck himself over somehow tbh
Either way, the results aren't going to be as good as if he went to an orthodontist

 

[Penalizer69]

Not worth it at all

 

[genio]

No, I didn't. I just assumed he'd fuck himself over somehow tbh
Either way, the results aren't going to be as good as if he went to an orthodontist

“Doing something for $150 is gonna yield worse results than paying $3000-$6000 for professional results” obviously son
Results are still results and he will get what he wants either way even if he did it at home
He didnt fuck himself over, it’s a win

 

[genio]

Not worth it at all

Because it hurts

 

[Penalizer69]

Because it hurts

And because 99% of people will fuck it up making themselves look worse or require futher work

This guys far from the first person to do their own orthodontic devices

 

[ceeuonthetop]

“Doing something for $150 is gonna yield worse results than paying $3000-$6000 for professional results” obviously son
Results are still results and he will get what he wants either way even if he did it at home
He didnt fuck himself over, it’s a win

3-6k = chump change for life long results
It would have been better if he'd just waited until he was 18 so he could earn enough money to actually afford getting it from a professional in my opinion

 

[genio]

And because 99% of people will fuck it up making themselves look worse or require futher work

Then just put in the correct safety precautions and research? This could be said about any DIY procedure if done incorrectly

This guys far from the first person to do their own orthodontic devices

Still impressive either way

 

[Penalizer69]

Then just put in the correct safety precautions and research? This could be said about any DIY procedure if done incorrectly

Just do enough research and you can do diy double jaw surgery bro!

 

[genio]

3-6k = chump change for life long results
It would have been better if he'd just waited until he was 18 so he could earn enough money to actually afford getting it from a professional in my opinion

Orthodontic procedures almost always become less effective with age

 

[genio]

Just do enough research and you can do diy double jaw surgery bro!

Yeah lets just use an extreme example to invalidate the moderate example bro!

 

[genio]

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Is this who i think

 

[Traum]

Is this who i think

Yes dipen

 

[genio]

Yes dipen

Son

 

[Penalizer69]

Yeah lets just use an extreme example to invalidate the moderate example bro!

The problem is it's not a moderate example. The difference between a semi common diy like filler vs something intrusive like diy marpe is huge. Even diy filler gets more than enough botches

 

[ceeuonthetop]

Orthodontic procedures almost always become less effective with age

Yes, but MSE and FME both have high rates of success in adults, especially FME, so getting it at 18 once you have the money would be a smart choice logically, this argument only really applies if someone would specifically get MARPE once their adult (even tho MARPE also has decent chances of success in adults)

 

[rand anon]

still dumb imo

it's already hard enough controlling the asymmetry caused by mse, doing it all by urself is prob gonna make it worse

 

[genio]

The problem is it's not a moderate example. The difference between a semi common diy like filler vs something intrusive like diy marpe is huge. Even diy filler gets more than enough botches

The question is that are these botches due to incompetence or due to the procedural risks itself though?

 

[ceeuonthetop]

Yes, but MSE and FME both have high rates of success in adults, especially FME, so getting it at 18 once you have the money would be a smart choice logically, this argument only really applies if someone would specifically get MARPE once their an adult (even tho MARPE also has decent chances of success in adults)

 

[Penalizer69]

The question is that are these botches due to incompetence or due to the procedural risks itself though?

Hightened botch rates is directly correlated with a procedures difficulty isn't this common sense?

 

[genio]

Yes, but MSE and FME both have high rates of success in adults, especially FME, so getting it at 18 once you have the money would be a smart choice logically, this argument only really applies if someone would specifically get MARPE once their adult (even tho MARPE also has decent chances of success in adults)

I know, but either way, the success rates are higher whenever you are younger even if it’s high in adulthood
But that isnt a great argument
Yes, it’d be more logical to go to a professional, but I still think DIY is a reasonable option if under a very specific circumstance

 

[genio]

Hightened botch rates is directly correlated with a procedures difficulty isn't this common sense?

Not what i was asking son

 

[ceeuonthetop]

I know, but either way, the success rates are higher whenever you are younger even if it’s high in adulthood
But that isnt a great argument
Yes, it’d be more logical to go to a professional, but I still think DIY is a reasonable option if under a very specific circumstance

If his palate is extremely narrow, sure, I guess that could count as a valid reason, but if he has a slightly below average/average palate then this is just a shitty way to do it

I guess I can see where your coming from tho

 

[Penalizer69]

Not what i was asking son

But it is though. Filler is also more commonly known as a procedure and it's benefits, meaning people with lower levels of knowledge will be accessing it. Marpe and other orthodontic devices are lesser known to the common person, and especially the benefits of usage. The fact that nevertheless most cases end in botching of some kind says it all

But be my guest and try it out, see how it goes outlier

 

[genio]

But it is though. Filler is also more commonly known as a procedure and it's benefits, meaning people with lower levels of knowledge will be accessing it. Marpe and other orthodontic devices are lesser known to the common person, and especially the benefits of usage. The fact that nevertheless most cases end in botching of some kind says it all

But be my guest and try it out, see how it goes outlier

I’m not saying id go to the extremes of DIYing a fucking MARPE/MSE

n***a my point was that shit would become much less risky if n*****s were just competent
The point of that question was to ask if the high botch rates was due to incompetence in the first place or rather DIY filler being hard to do
I never said risk would be eliminated entirely I was just implying that it would be less risky

 

[Penalizer69]

n***a my point was that shit would become much less risky if n*****s were just competent
The point of that question was to ask if the high botch rates was due to incompetence in the first place or rather DIY filler being hard to do
I never said risk would be eliminated entirely I was just implying that it would be less risky

The point is the competence level is too high to learn yourself.

And it's not like you can just read a few books and grasp a concept, we're limited by our genetic ability.

 

[ceeuonthetop]

The point is the competence level is too high to learn yourself.

And it's not like you can just read a few books and grasp a concept, we're limited by our genetic ability.

"our genetic ability" how does DIYing filler or MARPE have anything to do with your genetic ability

 

[genio]

The point is the competence level is too high to learn yourself.

And it's not like you can just read a few books and grasp a concept, we're limited by our genetic ability.

Sub 100 iq n*****s arent human

 

[Penalizer69]

"our genetic ability" how does DIYing filler or MARPE have anything to do with your genetic ability

Iq

Proving the point btw

Sub 100 iq n*****s arent human

You couldn't do diy marpe and I'd bet my life on it

 

[genio]

Iq

Proving the point btw

You couldn't do diy marpe and I'd bet my life on it

Because i am sub 100 iq n****r
Also i explicitly said i didnt want to do this shit idk why you keep acting like im saying i would

I’m not saying id go to the extremes of DIYing a fucking MARPE/MSE

Btw it’d be negative for my looks since my zygos being too wide are a flaw so even more reason for me not to

 

[Penalizer69]

Because i am sub 100 iq n****r

Proving the point btw

 

[genio]

Proving the point btw

n***a im positive i could do that DIY MARPE shit if i was low inhib anyways
Its an inhib thing not an IQ thing

 

[ceeuonthetop]

n***a im positive i could do that DIY MARPE shit if i was low inhib anyways
Its an inhib thing not an IQ thing

Do it to prove a point, if you botch yourself you'll look like a r****d and if you don't you'll still look like a r****d because of the fact that your zygos will look even wider now, it's a win win for Penalizer in both situations

 

[genio]

Do it to prove a point, if you botch yourself you'll look like a r****d and if you don't you'll still look like a r****d because of the fact that your zygos will look even wider now, it's a win win for Penalizer in both situations

Son

 

[Penalizer69]

n***a im positive i could do that DIY MARPE shit if i was low inhib anyways
Its an inhib thing not an IQ thing

How do you learn about how to do it while avoiding risks, the technique, literally everything while being a r****d

Holy shit genio icl you're retarded. The botch rates literally prove my point

 

[ceeuonthetop]

Son

You'll have those wide and masculine zygos tho if you succeed, even if you dont your still attractive in my heart mane

 

[genio]

How do you learn about how to do it while avoiding risks, the technique, literally everything while being a r****d

Holy shit genio icl you're retarded. The botch rates literally prove my point

n***a THE INTERNET IS FULL OF EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY NEED TO KNOW CAN BE FOUND ONLINE

BOTCH RATES OF DIY MARPE??? WHERE THE FUCK WOULD YOU FIND STANDARDIZED RATES OF SUCH A NICHE ASS THING

 

[Penalizer69]

n***a THE INTERNET IS FULL OF EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY NEED TO KNOW CAN BE FOUND ONLINE

BOTCH RATES OF DIY MARPE??? WHERE THE FUCK WOULD YOU FIND STANDARDIZED RATES OF SUCH A NICHE ASS THING

You understand comprehension (like anything else) is somewhat reliant on genetics? Like everyone has a wall. Some people just can't grasp certain topics like how you might be really good at maths and shit at geography.

You can just look at threads on forums and reddit, anyone who does these kinds of diys tends to fuck up their face.

 

[genio]

You understand comprehension (like anything else) is somewhat reliant on genetics? Like everyone has a wall. Some people just can't grasp certain topics like how you might be really good at maths and shit at geography.

You can just look at threads on forums and reddit, anyone who does these kinds of diys tends to fuck up their face.

Again, when i say sub100 iq n*****s arent human; im saying that the majority of functional humans (n*****s that arent retarded) will be able to do this shit if they’re educated

And as for posts where n*****s get botched, it’s not an accurate representation of a “botch rate”
Obviously the posts where n*****s get botched will be the most popular ones and therefore seem to the most common outcome

And again, my fucking argument is not that risks will be entirely eliminated, but rather lower whenever people are properly educated

Whether they have low comprehension or high comprehension, my point still applies, just to different degrees

 

[Penalizer69]

Again, when i say sub100 iq n*****s arent human; im saying that the majority of functional humans (n*****s that arent retarded) will be able to do this shit if they’re educated

And as for posts where n*****s get botched, it’s not an accurate representation of a “botch rate”
Obviously the posts where n*****s get botched will be the most popular ones and therefore seem to the most common outcome

And again, my fucking argument is not that risks will be entirely eliminated, but rather lower whenever people are properly educated

Whether they have low comprehension or high comprehension, my point still applies, just to different degrees

Iq gap too big in this conversation

You're the kind of person I'm talking about

 

[genio]

Iq gap too big in this conversation
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You're the kind of person I'm talking about

Just because someone disagrees with you doesnt mean you gap them in IQ son
Maybe address my arguments instead of pulling this ignorant shit with a Stalin gif

 

[Penalizer69]

Just because someone disagrees with you doesnt mean you gap them in IQ son
Maybe address my arguments instead of pulling this ignorant shit with a Stalin gif

You cant comprehend anything I'm saying so yeah it does tbh

I'm not carrying in with you because you simply can't grasp anything I'm saying as proven by this

And again, my fucking argument is not that risks will be entirely eliminated, but rather lower whenever people are properly educated

 

[genio]

You cant comprehend anything I'm saying so yeah it does tbh

I'm not carrying in with you because you simply can't grasp anything I'm saying as proven by this

n***a did you read this?

Whether they have low comprehension or high comprehension, my point still applies, just to different degrees

Your whole argument is that genetically some n*****s have a lower level of comprehension and i already addressed it

 

[Penalizer69]

Your whole argument is that genetically some n*****s have a lower level of comprehension and i already addressed it

My whole arguement is that you'd have to be incredibly intelligent (<1%) to grasp it without years of learning in a professional capacity. The average person can't do that because they don't have the time, nor the interest, nor the care.

Aka diy wouldn't be an option or even worth it

 

[ceeuonthetop]

Any r****d can do anything, your comprehension of something just decides if your going to be shit at it or not, anyone could do a DIY MARPE and do research on how to correctly do so, but some people just can't comprehend how to properly do it so they botch themselves lmfao

 

[genio]

My whole arguement is that you'd have to be incredibly intelligent (<1%) to grasp it without years of learning in a professional capacity. The average person can't do that because they don't have the time, nor the interest, nor the care.

Aka diy wouldn't be an option or even worth it

For a bimax? What exactly is “it”
For something like DIY MSE, you would definitely not need to be <1% intelligence with years of learning required

 

[ceeuonthetop]

For a bimax? What exactly is “it”
For something like DIY MSE, you would definitely not need to be <1% intelligence with years of learning required

True, a dude with subpar intelligence can grasp the idea of how to preform it, doesn't mean he'll understand it quite aswell as someone whos smarter or do it right tho jfl

 

[Penalizer69]

For something like DIY MSE, you would definitely not need to be <1% intelligence with years of learning required

I said without investing years into it. You're proving the point that you can't comprehend what im saying and therefore are not worth arguing with