Discussion "Men are Evil"

[Penalizer69]

No it's not

source: trust me bro

There is the haddith you mentioned and it's pretty well accepted within Islamic communities that the wife shall not deny husband intimacy without valid physical reason such as menstruation. To deny this would be to deny the word of Allah. Marital r**e is not really a thing in Islam. This is backed by the fact that marital r**e is largely legal in the middle east and Islamic countries. The typical rebuttal to this would be that a woman agrees to this fact upon marriage. I disagree with this of course, but I'd have to see your opinion before expanding.

 

[foidslayer]

Bad point man.

Atheism isn't a religion.

Theism means you believe in a god/religion

If you add an A in front, it means its the opposite

Therefore atheism = lack of believe in religion or god

Never said it was a religion but I was asking if she represents it

 

[foidslayer]

There is the haddith you mentioned and it's pretty well accepted within Islamic communities that the wife shall not deny husband intimacy without valid physical reason such as menstruation. To deny this would be to deny the word of Allah. Marital r**e is not really a thing in Islam. This is backed by the fact that marital r**e is largely legal in the middle east and Islamic countries. The typical rebuttal to this would be that a woman agrees to this fact upon marriage. I disagree with this of course, but I'd have to see your opinion before expanding.

the day people finally read the explanation of hadith is the day I'd probably be dead

 

[leea]

the day people finally read the explanation of hadith is the day I'd probably be dead

are you dumb? i meant trying to SPITE her husband, to get him angry for no reason.

If a husband calls his wife to his bed and she refuses to come to him, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.”
Spite isnt mentionned

 

[copevictim]

are you dumb? i meant trying to SPITE her husband, to get him angry for no reason.

jfl that’s what I was saying maybe I framed it wrong

 

[Angel]

ok

 

[foidslayer]

If a husband calls his wife to his bed and she refuses to come to him, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.”
Spite isnt mentionned

You're definitely retarded

I listed it as an unjustified reason for refusal

to get her husband angry for no reason

 

[foidslayer]

jfl that’s what I was saying maybe I framed it wrong

I apologise

But trying to get ur husband mad for no reason isn't a justified reason to refuse him and that's just an example.

Again the max a man can even do in extreme situations is a light tap (which according to lea is a heavy beating)

 

[leea]

There is the haddith you mentioned and it's pretty well accepted within Islamic communities that the wife shall not deny husband intimacy without valid physical reason such as menstruation. To deny this would be to deny the word of Allah. Marital r**e is not really a thing in Islam. This is backed by the fact that marital r**e is largely legal in the middle east and Islamic countries. The typical rebuttal to this would be that a woman agrees to this fact upon marriage. I disagree with this of course, but I'd have to see your opinion before expanding.

Can you answer this? Its well said

 

[leea]

I apologise

But trying to get ur husband mad for no reason isn't a justified reason to refuse him and that's just an example.

Again the max a man can even do in extreme situations is a light tap (which according to lea is a heavy beating)

Light or not its wrong.

 

[foidslayer]

Can you answer this? Its well said

I answered it

read the explanation of the hadith before blabbering genuinely

The wording concerns a wife who refuses without a legitimate excuse and intentionally causes marital conflict.

It does not mean a husband is entitled to force his wife into sex. Islamic law prohibits ظلم (injustice/harm), and marital intimacy is supposed to involve mutual rights and good treatment.

Legitimate reasons such as menstruation, illness, harm, exhaustion, or other valid circumstances change the ruling.

There are also hadiths emphasizing that men have obligations toward their wives, including good treatment and fulfilling their rights.

 

[Penalizer69]

@foidslayer you can't just use the fact that it's a hadith to deny any and all accountability for what is stated. There are of course different levels of hadiths, and unless you were to expand your reasoning on why you don't believe the stated hadith to be untrue or misleading despite it being backed by many other quotes and further evidence, your arguement remains faulty and weak. At best you have to concede that this hadeth negatively impacts followers of Islam

 

[lowlife]

@foidslayer Want to build a time machine where we go to 600AD and convince people to write a hadith saying that men have full legal right to go ER if females on a unknown looksmaxxing forum disagrees with our highly controversial opinions?

 

[foidslayer]

@foidslayer you can't just use the fact that it's a hadith to deny any and all accountability for what is stated. There are of course different levels of hadiths, and unless you were to expand your reasoning on why you don't believe the stated hadith to be untrue or misleading despite it being backed by many other quotes and further evidence, your arguement remains faulty and weak. At best you have to concede that this hadeth negatively impacts followers of Islam

I answered it

read the explanation of the hadith before blabbering genuinely

The wording concerns a wife who refuses without a legitimate excuse and intentionally causes marital conflict.

It does not mean a husband is entitled to force his wife into sex. Islamic law prohibits ظلم (injustice/harm), and marital intimacy is supposed to involve mutual rights and good treatment.

Legitimate reasons such as menstruation, illness, harm, exhaustion, or other valid circumstances change the ruling.

There are also hadiths emphasizing that men have obligations toward their wives, including good treatment and fulfilling their rights.

 

[foidslayer]

@foidslayer Want to build a time machine where we go to 600AD and convince people to write a hadith saying that men have full legal right to go ER if females on a unknown looksmaxxing forum disagrees with our highly controversial opinions?

Im gonna fabricate it into the bible

 

[lowlife]

Im gonna fabricate it into the bible

Vrilliant.

 

[Penalizer69]

I answered it

read the explanation of the hadith before blabbering genuinely

The wording concerns a wife who refuses without a legitimate excuse and intentionally causes marital conflict.

It does not mean a husband is entitled to force his wife into sex. Islamic law prohibits ظلم (injustice/harm), and marital intimacy is supposed to involve mutual rights and good treatment.

Legitimate reasons such as menstruation, illness, harm, exhaustion, or other valid circumstances change the ruling.

There are also hadiths emphasizing that men have obligations toward their wives, including good treatment and fulfilling their rights.

So would you say that the hadith implies that a woman turning down sex because of a lack of arousal or want would be haram?

 

[foidslayer]

@foidslayer you can't just use the fact that it's a hadith to deny any and all accountability for what is stated. There are of course different levels of hadiths, and unless you were to expand your reasoning on why you don't believe the stated hadith to be untrue or misleading despite it being backed by many other quotes and further evidence, your arguement remains faulty and weak. At best you have to concede that this hadeth negatively impacts followers of Islam

There's something called an explanation on Google usually even in the same webpage the hadith is in

If you read that it'll save you 99% of both our times

 

[lowlife]

So would you say that the hadith implies that a woman turning down sex because of a lack of arousal or want would be haram?

Oy vey.. Wouldn't happen if the man was chad.

 

[Overthrown]

I apologise

But trying to get ur husband mad for no reason isn't a justified reason to refuse him and that's just an example.

Again the max a man can even do in extreme situations is a light tap (which according to lea is a heavy beating)

I can definitely see how those words can be taken advantage of

The husband can easily frame her saying no as trying to make him mad for no reason

 

[foidslayer]

So would you say that the hadith implies that a woman turning down sex because of a lack of arousal or want would be haram?

lack of arousal is a valid reason man

the hadith talks about unjustified reasons usually doing it to cause conflict

 

[foidslayer]

I can definitely see how those words can be taken advantage of

The husband can easily frame her saying no as trying to make him mad for no reason

Again that's not Islam's fault, that's the husband's fault. Women are told to not marry men like that in islam

 

[Penalizer69]

lack of arousal is a valid reason man

the hadith talks about unjustified reasons usually doing it to cause conflict

I have read on this before you say anything, but do you genuinely believe most Muslims hold this view?

 

[foidslayer]

I have read on this before you say anything, but do you genuinely believe most Muslims hold this view?

Is that Islam's fault? The men should do better and get into the explanations more.

Women are told to not marry or accept men like that. (that abuse women and try to bend the rules of their own religion to go in line with their interpretation of it)

 

[Penalizer69]

Is that Islam's fault? The men should do better and get into the explanations more.

Women are told to not marry or accept men like that. (that abuse women and try to bend the rules of their own religion to go in line with their interpretation of it)

I believe at best its irresponsible. I think more thought should have gone into the way it would be interpreted and used. Also arranged marriages and forced marriages are very much a common thing in Islam, so to simply say don't marry these men is very flawed. It also implies there's some foolproof method to know if someone will turn out to be abusive or not, which given the circumstances with marriages in Islam it seems like there's definitely not enough time in most instances to predict things like this. There's of course issues with what could be percieved as a valid reason to turn down intimacy and what could be percieved as an attempt at angering the husband of course, but that's an issue of philosophy that I don't believe is worth debating.

 

[foidslayer]

I believe at best its irresponsible. I think more thought should have gone into the way it would be interpreted and used. Also arranged marriages and forced marriages are very much a common thing in Islam, so to simply say don't marry these men is very flawed. It also implies there's some foolproof method to know if someone will turn out to be abusive or not, which given the circumstances with marriages in Islam it seems like there's definitely not enough time in most instances to predict things like this. There's of course issues with what could be percieved as a valid reason to turn down intimacy and what could be percieved as an attempt at angering the husband of course, but that's an issue of philosophy that I don't believe is worth debating.

You do realise some of the "wording" is a fault of the English language's vocabulary being so little right? Translation isn't perfect and that's why you read the explanation

 

[HerculesJr.]

doesn't take a genius to realize that mothers spend way more time with the kids -> more abuse

Truth ICMB

If it was the other way around and you had men spending more time with kids than woman, you'd have a similar thing happening I imagine

 

[rand anon]

lea is the reason men are evil....

Lea should choose the bear

 

[foidslayer]

Lea should choose the bear

she's as fat as one anyway

 

[lowlife]

Lea should choose the bear

Women choose the bear because the bear is over 6 ft by the way.

 

[leea]

she's as fat as one anyway

Kill yourself

 

[foidslayer]

Kill yourself

care to show the class your wrists?

 

[lowlife]

care to show the class your wrists?

Don't, slit wrists arouse me.

 

[lowlife]

Don't, slit wrists arouse me.

@leea Anything surprising? What is the react for?

 

[leea]

@leea Anything surprising? What is the react for?

Its not that surprising coming from you

 

[lowlife]

Its not that surprising coming from you

Another win for .coms biggest jew, leea are you interested to converting to judaism?

 

[foidslayer]

Another win for .coms biggest jew, leea are you interested to converting to judaism?

her cia work has payed off

 

[leea]

Another win for .coms biggest jew, leea are you interested to converting to judaism?

Whats with all the cult invites

 

[lowlife]

Whats with all the cult invites

You ignorant gentile, can you consider at least becoming a righteous gentile who follows the 7 laws of noah?

 

[leea]

You ignorant gentile, can you consider at least becoming a righteous gentile who follows the 7 laws of noah?

Whats in it for me

 

[lowlife]

Whats in it for me

Simple, you do not go to hell.

 

[leea]

Simple, you do not go to hell.
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I dont need a religion to not do all of these..

 

[lowlife]

I dont need a religion to not do all of these..

Yes correct, you can be a righteous gentile, separate from a Jew, and by following these you go to heaven, that's how great of a religion judaism is, they let you goys come into heaven.

 

[leea]

Yes correct, you can be a righteous gentile, separate from a Jew, and by following these you go to heaven, that's how great of a religion judaism is, they let you goys come into heaven.

If thats all i have to do its kinda peak so i can die sure that im at least going to heaven in 1 out of 3000+ religions

 

[lowlife]

If thats all i have to do its kinda peak so i can die sure that im at least going to heaven in 1 out of 3000+ religions

 

[leea]

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Thanks for converting me brother i am jewish from now on

 

[ghoulmania]

jewish messiah

 

[lowlife]

jewish messiah

 

[ghoulmania]

hey fuck you you're just like the other goyim dirty larp

 

[lowlife]

hey fuck you you're just like the other goyim dirty larp

Do you want to become a Righteous Gentile?