Rage Men hypocrisy

[pepelkant]

Not only richcels. Just any guy that gives princess treatment. Cause most men these days don’t even approach or properly court anymore. Just look at the statistics of how many gen z guys have never even approached a woman. They rather circle jerk in a forum than actually court a woman once damn

"princess treatment" works only if you are better looking than here or in rare cases a looksmatch, otherwise you stay as the nice best friend

 

[candycaro]

But what you're missing is. Women don't have to become high value.

Men are expected to work hard, get a high income, grind hard, become that high value person. Whereas a woman just needed to exist.
I do admit women's value (in most men's eyes) tend to be judged mostly on their faces from the start. But there's no need for years of grinding.

And that bar isn't very high. Any guy would be happy if a woman even talked to him lmao.

Yes they do have to become high value. High value for a woman has meaning and it means more than just having high income. First of all the higher the income the more beautiful the person. Not saying you can’t be poor and a Stacy or whatever but it’s just easier to level up and upkeep your appearance when there’s more money. And like you said due to the modern zeitgeist we have double income households. So the “high value man” i. e. Attractive and high income expect a counterpart that is more attractive than them matches their tax bracket as well (or is only slightly below). Imo for high value woman income plays a role but more complicated, less linear, harder to achieve and more nuanced factors like beauty and social status play a bigger role than for a high value man (where income is more important, besides the other things).

 

[candycaro]

"princess treatment" works only if you are better looking than here or in rare cases a looksmatch, otherwise you stay as the nice best friend

Not my observation and experience

 

[candycaro]

You're getting it wrong imo. When you see "Beautiful" girls with chopped guys, most of the time, women has options but Chad isn't on the list so at some point she has to settle down if she wants something. Doesn't mean she is genuinely attracted to the guy, she prob just likes what he provides (comfort, stability, loyalty, reassurance, money etc)

And before you say that means she doesn’t actually like him. Yes she does, for the treatment. Don’t act like y’all don’t only want Stacy for her looks lol

 

[TonyDr]

My point though. You’re actually validating my point that it’s easier for a guy to get a more attractive girl lol

Yeah okay but what's the point if she is not genuinely attracted to him ? Yeah getting Stacy is cool but what is happening if i can't pay her bills or don't get her daily starbucks ? Does she reciprocate ? Treat me like a king ? Is she here only for the princess treatment or for love ? That's the question

 

[candycaro]

Yeah okay but what's the point if she is not genuinely attracted to him ? Yeah getting Stacy is cool but what is happening if i can't pay her bills or don't get her daily starbucks ? Does she reciprocate ? Treat me like a king ? Is she here only for the princess treatment or for love ? That's the question

Are you there for love if you want Stacy? Lmfao. You’re there for looks but mad if she’s there for princess treatment.

 

[TonyDr]

Are you there for love if you want Stacy? Lmfao. You’re there for looks but mad if she’s there for princess treatment.

For LTR personality is what matters, i couldn't stand a crazy chick, even if she is stacylite. If it was the case, i would have dated around when i've worked in Saint-Tropez. In my case i think Mtbs+ are cute enough to my taste

 

[candycaro]

For LTR personality is what matters, i couldn't stand a crazy chick, even if she is stacylite. If it was the case, i would have dated around when i've worked in Saint-Tropez. In my case i think Mtbs+ are cute enough to my taste

If you actually know how to treat a woman right, getting a mtb shouldn’t be a problem, no looksmaxxing even required, unless you’re subhuman dude (which is pretty rare I reckon).

 

[TonyDr]

If you actually know how to treat a woman right, getting a mtb shouldn’t be a problem, no looksmaxxing even required, unless you’re subhuman dude (which is pretty rare I reckon).

I got a high mtb as a girfriend, and tbh i treat every women right but don't let myself underappreciated or disrespected.
I think there is other factors to get a mtb like you said, being taller, Nt, fit, not balding that much etc

 

[candycaro]

For LTR personality is what matters, i couldn't stand a crazy chick, even if she is stacylite. If it was the case, i would have dated around when i've worked in Saint-Tropez. In my case i think Mtbs+ are cute enough to my taste

I’ve been told I’d be in mtb range and for me with every date I’ve had it’s been an effort problem. And with that I mean that most of these guys out there just want to get laid and it’s pretty evident. They don’t really care about the girl herself or giving her a good time. Esp the ones on the dating apps y’all always talk about where we have oh so many options. So that doesn’t really lead anywhere. And if you just wait to meet someone organically it’s just gonna rarely ever happen (->statistics). Cause y’all rarely approach and don’t really put in any effort.

 

[pepelkant]

Are you there for love if you want Stacy? Lmfao. You’re there for looks but mad if she’s there for princess treatment.

Princess treatment is a bullshit made up from egocentric people. They dont love the person sugarcoating them or being their daddy or whatever you call it, they just love themselves enough to date a person just to boost their self esteem and egocentrism or they just love being loved for short. Look at a breakdown for a relationship with a person, who's the price

 

[pepelkant]

I’ve been told I’d be in mtb range and for me with every date I’ve had it’s been an effort problem. And with that I mean that most of these guys out there just want to get laid and it’s pretty evident. They don’t really care about the girl herself or giving her a good time. Esp the ones on the dating apps y’all always talk about where we have oh so many options. So that doesn’t really lead anywhere. And if you just wait to meet someone organically it’s just gonna rarely ever happen (->statistics). Cause y’all rarely approach and don’t really put in any effort.

Would you send yourself and maybe what you think is your looksmatch, i just want to make sure

 

[candycaro]

Princess treatment is a bullshit made up from egocentric people. They dont love the person sugarcoating them or being their daddy or whatever you call it, they just love themselves enough to date a person just to boost their self esteem and egocentrism or they just love being loved for short. Look at a breakdown for a relationship with a person, who's the price

Way to ignore the point that was made about the fact that men wanting Stacy isn’t about love either

 

[pepelkant]

Way to ignore the point that was made about the fact that men wanting Stacy isn’t about love either

Its exactly about love lmao what about finding a girl super hot and getting to date her isnt love

 

[candycaro]

Would you send yourself and maybe what you think is your looksmatch, i just want to make sure

I have a pfp dude. And threads of my own where you can see what I look like. And my looks match would logically be any guy in mtn or htn range. Depending on my rating, which varies. I’d take any guy that would be a personality match and doesn’t have a lust problem though.

 

[candycaro]

Its exactly about love lmao what about finding a girl super hot and getting to date her isnt love

You don’t love the actual person. You love the looks. But you complain when she might not like the actual person, but the treatment. You ask what happens when you can’t finance the princess treatment anymore. I ask what happens when she gets sick or old and doesn’t look like that anymore. And that considering the fact that how you treat others is actually more tied to character than someone’s looks. Makes the way men “love” just so much more superficial.

 

[pepelkant]

I have a pfp dude. And threads of my own where you can see what I look like. And my looks match would logically be any guy in mtn or htn range. Depending on my rating, which varies. I’d take any guy that would be a personality match and doesn’t have a lust problem though.

"mtn or htn range" @Currycelloser @DarkAscender @ikramy

 

[Deleted Member 76607]

"mtn or htn range" @Currycelloser @DarkAscender @ikramy

JFL , mirin her ascension tho

 

[candycaro]

"mtn or htn range" @Currycelloser @DarkAscender @ikramy

So you’d say my looks match would then be someone lower than my own rating? Hmmm kinda sounds like the point I was trying to make

 

[candycaro]

JFL , mirin her ascension tho

Ascension is worthless, doesn’t bring results. But y’all out here debating that women care more about looks than men lmfao. Whole beauty industry targeted at women is random ig. And for the 100x time yes it plays a role for men too but just way less. Which was my original point. And it still stands.

 

[Deleted Member 76607]

Ascension is worthless, doesn’t bring results. But y’all out here debating that women care more about looks than men lmfao. Whole beauty industry targeted at women is random ig. And for the 100x time yes it plays a role for men too but just way less. Which was my original point. And it still stands.

Sorry black queen

 

[pepelkant]

So you’d say my looks match would then be someone lower than my own rating? Hmmm kinda sounds like the point I was trying to make

No, thats way higher bffr

 

[candycaro]

No, thats way higher bffr

???

 

[pepelkant]

???

Tell me how would you rate yourself

 

[candycaro]

Tell me how would you rate yourself

Mtb, if I was better at make up or you count the physique maybe htb potential

 

[pepelkant]

Mtb, if I was better at make up or you count the physique maybe htb potential

Send a clear front face no make up pic, then rate yourself

 

[candycaro]

Send a clear front face no make up pic, then rate yourself

Send a clear front face no shaving for five months pic, then let me rate you. Make up on women is literally engrained into our society lmao. Yes my rating would suffer if I’m not wearing make up. So would yours if you didn’t do male grooming lmao. Also you ignored what I said about physique which plays more of a role for women than for men again… Also you managed to make this about my looks, so you could ignore the point that was made about you wanting Stacy not being about love at all

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

i'll just leave this here:

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Send a clear front face no shaving for five months pic, then let me rate you. Make up on women is literally engrained into our society lmao. Yes my rating would suffer if I’m not wearing make up. So would yours if you didn’t do male grooming lmao. Also you ignored what I said about physique which plays more of a role for women than for men again… Also you managed to make this about my looks, so you could ignore the point that was made about you wanting Stacy not being about love at all

Facial hair is natural JFL. The female equivalent of facial hair would be hair.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

I’d take any guy that would be a personality match and doesn’t have a lust problem though.

highly doubt it tbh

 

[candycaro]

Facial hair is natural JFL. The female equivalent of facial hair would be hair.

The equivalent of hair is hair …

 

[candycaro]

highly doubt it tbh

You just wanna deny my experience

 

[candycaro]

i'll just leave this here:
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My point still stands. It even proves it. Why do you think are the ratings for females better? Cause they focus more on it, because they have to, because it’s more important for them.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

The equivalent of hair is hair …

exactly right, that's what I just said

if you want me to break it down even more:
Male facial hair ≠ Female makeup.
Male facial hair is almost = Female hair

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

You just wanna deny my experience

not denying it, i'm just in doubt

 

[candycaro]

exactly right, that's what I just said

if you want me to break it down even more:
Male facial hair ≠ Female makeup.
Male facial hair is almost = Female hair

Male facial hair/grooming = female make up
Male hair = female hair
Hope that makes sense…

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

My point still stands. It even proves it. Why do you think are the ratings for females better? Cause they focus more on it, because they have to, because it’s more important for them.

The ratings for females are better because they are tribalistic in nature to be hypergamous, this is a fact.


Here's a study on it: http://web.simmons.edu/~turnerg/MCC/Matechoice2PDF.pdf
Doubt you'll read all of this thouh

 

[candycaro]

exactly right, that's what I just said

if you want me to break it down even more:
Male facial hair ≠ Female makeup.
Male facial hair is almost = Female hair

Even with that men still have it easier. Don’t get me wrong, women love men with hair, but bald men are normalized and still get laid. No one wants a bald woman.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Male facial hair/grooming = female make up
Male hair = female hair
Hope that makes sense…

Male facial hair is natural while makeup is not natural

 

[candycaro]

Male facial hair is natural while makeup is not natural

Grooming it isn’t natural

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Even with that men still have it easier. Don’t get me wrong, women love men with hair, but bald men are normalized and still get laid. No one wants a bald woman.

You really think a bald man has higher SMV than a bald women?

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Grooming it isn’t natural

explain lol

 

[candycaro]

You really think a bald man has higher SMV than a bald women?

I said it’s more normalized. You see bald men with partners all the time. Don’t see bald women with partners (at least not male ones). And it’s just in general not desirable for women.

 

[candycaro]

explain lol

I literally did. I said his rating would suffer as well if he didn’t groom. Like mine would suffer if I didn’t do make up. Both normalized for men and women by society but both an unnatural process.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

I said it’s more normalized.

You said men have it easier.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

I literally did. I said his rating would suffer as well if he didn’t groom. Like mine would suffer if I didn’t do make up. Both normalized for men and women by society but both an unnatural process.

That doesn't mean it's not natural

Using your logic, then is losing weight wouldn't be natural, right?

 

[pepelkant]

mtn or htn range

Mtb, if I was better at make up or you count the physique maybe htb potential

You are ltb, sorry to break it to you

 

[TonyDr]

I’ve been told I’d be in mtb range and for me with every date I’ve had it’s been an effort problem. And with that I mean that most of these guys out there just want to get laid and it’s pretty evident. They don’t really care about the girl herself or giving her a good time. Esp the ones on the dating apps y’all always talk about where we have oh so many options. So that doesn’t really lead anywhere. And if you just wait to meet someone organically it’s just gonna rarely ever happen (->statistics). Cause y’all rarely approach and don’t really put in any effort.

You still need to be attractive enough and tall and NT to cold approach and get a positive result.

When i said women have options, it doesn't means she has high quality ones or the one(s) she truly want.

Also yeah you're right nowadays men (not my case) will focus on short-term things because : Women are deep into hook-up culture so why they'll put ton of efforts if on the other hand she let an another guy tap for free ? Why he has this free pass and not the other one ? Why is she open up emotionally and physically to him ? It's not "love" to asking efforts imo.

So men will try to get the most beneficial part of a woman : sex, and avoid commitment, effort, caring, vulnerability, long-term projection. It's sad, yeah, you can say men are trash and i'll agree with you, especially if you aren't a ONS/sexfriendship girl

 

[candycaro]

You said men have it easier.

Again for men it’s normalized and they don’t have as much trouble finding a partner despite being bald compared to a woman. bald women go against societal standard. Just a fact.

 

[EthiopianMaxxer]

Again for men it’s normalized and they don’t have as much trouble finding a partner despite being bald compared to a woman. bald women go against societal standard. Just a fact.

Normalized ≠ easier

A bald woman's SMV goes from infinity to infinity