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In this thread I will explain to you the commonly asked question about whether or not you should drink Milk.
Issue #1: Milk will lower your Androgens and increase your Estrogens.
It is indeed true that Milk can potentially contain a lot of Estrogen. Why is this?
You see, normally animals are not able to lactate during pregnancy, even humans cannot. The high levels of Estrogen during pregnancy will inhibit the
Prolactin and will result in no milk being produced. The problem was that if you wanted Milk from cows, there would be a period in which they were
pregnant and could not produce any Milk, so special milks were bred over time which can lactate even during pregnancy. Because of the high levels of
Estrogen during pregnancy, there will be more Estrogen being excreted trough the Milk.
One solution to this would be to get your milk from known sources from the Countryside where you know what state the cow was in when lactating.
But let's think about this Estrogen a little bit more. The Estrogen being excreted trough the Milk is pure, not like other Estrogenic medicine available.
The Estrogen inside the Milk is being ingested orally, not injected, therefore its bioavaiability (The amount being absorbed) is somwhere between
<1% and 5%, so unless the levels were incredibly high, which based on multiple documented levels, is rare, you would actually absorb very little.
Let's look at this from a different perspective.
There were many studies testing hormonal levels after ingestion of Milk, all having very, very varied results. One study in particular showed a very
drastic lowering of Androgens and overall hormone production after the ingestion of Milk, but the people drank over 1L of a commercial milk which was
kept in unknown conditions. The multiple plastic Estrogens present in the Milk carton have been clearly shown to do just that: Lower the overall hormonal
production (Hence their title as "Hormonal Disruptors"). The plastic Estrogens are all highly fat soluble and the amount being leeched into the Milk
increases with its temperature, so unless the Milk has been kept in pristine conditions, it cannot be blamed on the milk and the study (As with the rest
of them) is confounded.
As a mention, Lactose-Free Milk is kept for a couple of days at temperatures around 20C following the addition of the Lactase Enzymes.
Summary: The studies are confounded. The best kind of Milk to drink is Raw Milk from trusted sources. Keep away from plastics. Commercial Milks are also
not that bad as long as it was kept in good cooling conditions in the Market it was bought from.
Issue #2: Milk will cause Acne (IGF-1 and Inflammation).
Milk does not contains bioavailable IGF-1. The hormone is increased following ingestion as it will also happen after eating any other High Carbohydrate
meal (As the people used in studies were given lots of Milk).
Inflammation occurs naturally after the ingestion of any food, but past that even commercial Milk has not been shown to increase Inflammation at all.
Several studies have briefly mentioned it might even be Anti-Inflammatory, but I have not read them so I cannot comment.
An increase of IGF-1 is very likely to cause acne in susceptible people, but for someone to blame Milk for it, they would have to also fully stop eating
Carbohydrates as all of them will create an elevation in IGF-1.
I am not sure what else is being said about Milk, but it's a very nutritious food. Let me know if you have any questions.
Issue #1: Milk will lower your Androgens and increase your Estrogens.
It is indeed true that Milk can potentially contain a lot of Estrogen. Why is this?
You see, normally animals are not able to lactate during pregnancy, even humans cannot. The high levels of Estrogen during pregnancy will inhibit the
Prolactin and will result in no milk being produced. The problem was that if you wanted Milk from cows, there would be a period in which they were
pregnant and could not produce any Milk, so special milks were bred over time which can lactate even during pregnancy. Because of the high levels of
Estrogen during pregnancy, there will be more Estrogen being excreted trough the Milk.
One solution to this would be to get your milk from known sources from the Countryside where you know what state the cow was in when lactating.
But let's think about this Estrogen a little bit more. The Estrogen being excreted trough the Milk is pure, not like other Estrogenic medicine available.
The Estrogen inside the Milk is being ingested orally, not injected, therefore its bioavaiability (The amount being absorbed) is somwhere between
<1% and 5%, so unless the levels were incredibly high, which based on multiple documented levels, is rare, you would actually absorb very little.
Let's look at this from a different perspective.
There were many studies testing hormonal levels after ingestion of Milk, all having very, very varied results. One study in particular showed a very
drastic lowering of Androgens and overall hormone production after the ingestion of Milk, but the people drank over 1L of a commercial milk which was
kept in unknown conditions. The multiple plastic Estrogens present in the Milk carton have been clearly shown to do just that: Lower the overall hormonal
production (Hence their title as "Hormonal Disruptors"). The plastic Estrogens are all highly fat soluble and the amount being leeched into the Milk
increases with its temperature, so unless the Milk has been kept in pristine conditions, it cannot be blamed on the milk and the study (As with the rest
of them) is confounded.
As a mention, Lactose-Free Milk is kept for a couple of days at temperatures around 20C following the addition of the Lactase Enzymes.
Summary: The studies are confounded. The best kind of Milk to drink is Raw Milk from trusted sources. Keep away from plastics. Commercial Milks are also
not that bad as long as it was kept in good cooling conditions in the Market it was bought from.
Issue #2: Milk will cause Acne (IGF-1 and Inflammation).
Milk does not contains bioavailable IGF-1. The hormone is increased following ingestion as it will also happen after eating any other High Carbohydrate
meal (As the people used in studies were given lots of Milk).
Inflammation occurs naturally after the ingestion of any food, but past that even commercial Milk has not been shown to increase Inflammation at all.
Several studies have briefly mentioned it might even be Anti-Inflammatory, but I have not read them so I cannot comment.
An increase of IGF-1 is very likely to cause acne in susceptible people, but for someone to blame Milk for it, they would have to also fully stop eating
Carbohydrates as all of them will create an elevation in IGF-1.
I am not sure what else is being said about Milk, but it's a very nutritious food. Let me know if you have any questions.
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