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Heres a few quotes
They are about androgens
“Even though AR is expressed in chondrocytes, experiments show that AR activation alone doesn’t significantly drive longitudinal bone growth or growth plate closure
ERa is the main receptor responsible for growth plate closure
Androgens can actually have positive effects on growth by affecting IGF-1 and GH pathways
This is why non-aromatizing androgens would increase growth not stunt it“

“Why do adolescents treated with DHT and it's derivatives find increases in height and lean body mass? Puberty still results in increased type 1 5AR enzymes which can still make some DHT. It may not be necessary as a main driver of bone growth during puberty but it still has positive effects on periosteal bone formation”

“Sorry wait i forgot to add something
It isnt negligible at all
Circulating serum DHT does not equivocate local DHT production within bone tissue 5ARD is a deficiency of the type 2 5AR yes? Type 1 5AR is the receptor type that is clearly expressed in osteoblasts whilst type 2 is not found or undetectable in bone tissue Bone can still make and use androgens locally and bone still expresses type 1 5AR”
 
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Fucking hell, son, tl;dr.
AR doenst drive growth plate closure, ERa is the main receptor that drives plate closure; non-aromatizing androgens are positive for IGF1 and GH so it will increase height
(I forgot to mention some androgens are anti-e2 and anti-catabolic)

DHT is effective for height growth despite studies showing 5ARD patients and people with no circulating serum DHT because 5ARD is the absence of type 2 5AR not type 1, the type mainly expressed in bone (type 2 is undetectable in bone) bones also produce and use androgens locally, meaning that these studies are not valid proof
DHT is a strong androgen that affects AR anyways
 

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